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JoMo, do you know anything about the healthcare group touring hospitals giving a presentation about what they learned at Mercy?

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Is that next to the park the tv show built?

Anything else that shocked you?

You can still see people's clothes in some of the trees as well. We've had a lot of amazing volunteers come and they've been working on cutting down and clearing out the downed trees in the more forested areas.

Not as much shocked me as should have. I think seeing all of your photos prepared me for what I would see.

You can tell its a changed landscape. After the trees, the very first thing I noticed was the street names painted on the road. I think we were on 22nd st? The one that goes next to the hospital.

It felt more solemn in areas where you KNEW someone died. Walmart, Home Depot, those places. A couple of times I caught my self thinking "It looks so normal here, how is that possible?"

We drove by the hospital, I had tried to explain the modular concept to my my wife, who is a nurse, but she had to see it to understand. It was hard telling on the old hospital, where damage was vs. demolition.

I didn't realize how close your two hospitals were. Talk about a streak of luck.

The trees, oh yes. I've always noticed that surviving trees bear some of the most fascinating (and alien-looking) reminders of tornadoes. Just a couple miles from the house, I go through an area of branchless trees with foliage clusters on their trunks every time I head for town, a reminder of the Saragossa F3 back on Nov 10 2002 that killed 7 people. And a trip to Hackleburg or Phil Campbell shows the same thing there, a landscape of broken tree snags, downed timber, and the occasional alien tree sticking up partially debarked and without branches but bearing clusters of fresh foliage from new growth along the trunk. It's both encouraging and sad, fascinating and bizarre.

Thats the first time I have seen aftermath of major damage. I've had EF1-EF2 events close to me before and seen the immediate damage from those, but to see the size and level of damage there in Joplin, a year after, was amazing. I kept telling my friend giving me the tour, :I didn't expect to still see sheet metal and insulation in the trees."

I drove around Joplin, Tuesday. I may have actually gotten a bit lost on JoMos hood.

It's so surprising to me that you can still look up in trees and see debris. The other thing, the trees themselves. They are so barren, it's surreal to see a tree with no branches growing leaves.

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We're headed home this weekend and we always go to Lambert in Ozark. Thought about making a day of it and heading down to see Joplin.

Anywhere specific we would want to check out? More importantly anywhere to keep away from?

I just came here to ask about that map JoMo. Just read about it on KY3.

How are the tourists being treated when they come through town? If I dropped in on Joplin next time I'm in the Ozarks would I get the cold shoulder from people?

I do see how it is tacky, but like they said, its hard to be avoided. Might as well help the community out somehow. Have any areas of town become more "solem" than others?

Whew. That makes me feel claustrophobic. If I ever build a house (yeah right) I want a shelter with a pocket door. No getting stuck there.

Looks nice JoMo, and good call on the paint too!

What if you don't have a cell phone?

Good point. Its quickly becoming a moot point, but it still a good point. The cell phone idea reaches the majority of citizens. Way more than tornado sirens do.

Another interesting topic that was brought up in the conference was education to the public. It is going to be a nice start for us to begin a survey, distributed to the public, that asks them how they perceive watches and warnings and the actions that they take. It might also be good to know what the public would like to see if they are not going to take each warning seriously.

I could go on and on forever about this conference but the assessment has really highlighted the points that were brought up here in Indiana. A lot of things to discuss in the future, that's for sure.

I work in 911, it is simply amazing the number of 911 calls we get when the sirens go off. "I hear tornado sirens, what am I supposed to do?" This is anecdotal of course, but I think a large number of them come from trailer residents too.

I think the siren system is broken and antiquated. They need replaced with new more efficient technology. How hard can it be to have all of the cell towers in a polygon push a free text message out to phones. "Tornado warning for your area. 9:11PM to 9:45PM turn on local media for info."

Some progress being made as the electric company is marking locations where power poles are to be installed in the tornado destroyed areas now that a lot of it has been cleared. Saw a house that had hurricane straps installed being demolished today. Last pass for FEMA collection of debris starts July 22nd.

I'll probably post some new pics on the 22nd when I take my 2 month shots.

Interesting they aren't taking the time to go underground. Was it discussed?

Three weeks and a day after the tornado.

Have people forgot yet, Jomo? Or is the help needed, still coming?

Well some people didn't go to the hospital. I know in my area, the people who had minor wounds just threw some peroxide on it and a bandage and called it good.

And when you have dirt basicly injected into your body at 250mph.... well...

As far as other people, It has to do with not getting the wound completely clean and the dead vegetation/fungus fester inside the wound.

Exactly my point, said much better. I hate when people do that.

You can't expect grade A care in a hospital working on generator power and with doctors who were just driving through and stopped to help. Not faulting them at all.

I don't know. I was curious about that as well. She's been on 3 different antibiotics. She says her husband is still picking pieces of wood out of his body. They are both healthy people so they should be ok.

From what I have read, the people that are dying are either 1) not getting meds soon enough, or 2) have a comprimised immune system to begin with.

Mother Nature can be a real b**ch.

Some of the reports I heard today, almost seemed to blame the field medicne in causing the infections. I don't agree with that. You're not going to get complete and total care in the field.

The last few years Springfield has been tornado warning happy. I think it all really started getting that way after the Derecho in 2009.

I wouldn't mind having a safe room. I'm sure other people would mind though, or some couldn't afford it if it wasn't subsidized into the construction or something. Tornadoes of this magnitude are pretty rare. The chances of being hit by a killer tornado are pretty low. There's probably a much much greater chance you will die in an auto accident before you are killed by a tornado.

Joplin has a very low cost of living, and to shell out $5,000 for a safe room..... I'm not sure how many people would do that or could afford that for that once every 200 year killer tornado.

Gotcha, I moved away in 2003. I try to keep tabs out there some, because mom still lives in Lebanon. (In a trailer park none the less)

Have you seen or heard of any safe rooms that survived this storm, like we saw pics of in AL?

What is worse, too many warnings, or a 40mi x 20mi tornado warning bigger than most counties, that IND issued a couple of days ago? Is the SGF tornado happiness a new thing? I don't remember that from when I lived there in upper SW MO. Of course my memory is skewed by the two tornados we had tracking towards our residence probably. I know I was always impressed with SGF. I even did a couple of job shadows at their office in high school, as well with Brandon Beck from KY3.

Just curious JoMo, and not trying to start anything polictial, and hope no one carries it that way. Does this change your opinion on mandatory safe rooms in new construction?

Great to hear from you man!

What he said.

I saw a name on the missing person list today that matches an old friend in Joplin I haven't spoken to in years. There wasn't a DOB to see if it was her or not. Will have to see how that pans out.

Also, my mom tells me that on this morning's news they mentioned that the deaths at the hospital were in the parking lot?

Five patients who died inside the hosppital suffocated when power was lost. No staff died.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/24/us-usa-weather-tornadoes-hospital-idUSTRE74N7FB20110524

A woman died today from cardiac arrest when she was told her father was found dead. They said she will be counted in the death toll.

That's mainly a Dixie Alley thing, after the Enterprise tornado... and the school closings happen most often in Alabama specifically.

Do you know if it is mandated, Fred, or is that just a rumor I have heard?

A woman on CNN just said she was driving trying to find an overpass to take shelter in. *head desk*

I still think the biggest loss of life threat comes with a sporting event being hit by a large tornado. Just as an example, say you have 80,0000 people at a nascar event in kansas or texas, thats people spread out in the open over a 2-3 mile area, plus 1000s of people camping in the infield, plus that many crewmen, reporters, etc. Where do you put all these people in 20 mintues if a tornado is coming at that? this is where you could see deaths approaching 1000

Talladega came very close to that last month. The race wasn't going on, but the campground was full. According to a buddy there there weren't many campers taking percautions. If I remember right there was a tornado spotted in town by the FD as well.

This is awful.

Hopefully Jomo is ok.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Joplin-Mo-Tornado-Survivors/212837822082340?ref=mf

Facebook page started by the newspaper to relay victim information.

Here is the link where SGF will be posting survey information. http://www.crh.noaa.gov/sgf/?n=event_2011may22_summary

I have friends there, power is out surrounding the town as well. AT&T wireless is unreliable. Verizon wireless is spotty. Home internet services are out.

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