Sundog

It just stopped snowing in March like someone flipped a light switch

Yup, all crap to varying degrees. Only @FPizz has had a good winter since then when a 300 foot wide band of snow dropped 20 inches over his house.

21-22 not good. You mean 20-21.

It's kind of crazy that they don't explain exactly why and how the numbers were adjusted per station.

Very breezy this morning. I bottomed out at 45 degrees when the winds were calm but they picked up and stayed up after around 4AM. Then temps jumped to 49 and stayed there for the rest of the early morning.

Indeed, yet the temperature adjustment made to the 1981-2020 normals was to make a revision downward, as if Central Park was running too warm.

Well I find this kind of absurd. If there is a problem with the data why isn't it adjusted at the monthly level and then posted online? You know what's interesting, I just checked and there is no missing data at all from Central Park for those 30 Octobers, and it certainly hasn't changed location during that time, which were the two main reasons given for doing temperature adjustments. And did it have instrument issues that they needed a fix that resulted in a whopping 0.4 adjustment? I find it very silly.

For a 30 year average 0.4 is a lot. Last fall because of frustration of not being able to find prior 30 year averages I calculated the 30 year averages all the way back to 1870 using all the monthly data available on the NWS site for Central Park.

When you take the October averages from 1981-2010 from the Central Park records available on the NWS site it comes out to 57.3 degrees. Do you know how they would arrive to 56.9?

Don I thought the 1981-2010 October average was 57.3 degrees and the current average is 57.8 (57.9 according to the magic math of the NWS.) Where did you get the previous 30 year average? I simply took the average of the Octobers from 1981 through 2010 and got 57.3 degrees. And when I do the same for the Octobers from 1991 through 2020 I get 57.8 degrees.

Lucky 70 for JFK. Even LGA maxed at 69. Must have been the northerly wind.

I don't understand what you're saying. How can a 30 year normal be anything other than the average of the previous 30 years of temperatures?

Central Park October average for 1961-1990 was 57.5 degrees. The 1991-2020 average is 57.9 degrees (although I calculated 57.8 degrees, not sure how the NWS got 57.9.) So it's not that much warmer. Other months haver warmed more. And wait until this decade goes into the averages. Temperatures have gone off the rails since 2020.

Not too bad considering the torch we had to endure

Globalism can refer to cultural, political or economic exchange. Our over-reliance on Asia has imported a large number of invasive species.

Globalism and all its wonderful side effects. I lost a 60 year old Ash tree to the Emerald Ash Borer. It was a gorgeous tree with a beautiful canopy that provided tons of shade and a beautiful fall foliage.

Luckily this is hour a million so it probably won't happen

Never played football? And have you noticed our temperatures lately? I used to play a little football here or there when it was like 20 degrees outside with bare hands. Mid 40s is actually quite comfortable for exercise and sports.

So the Sun rising at 4AM in summer is what's natural? We have so much artificial light that "what's natural" is meaningless. Just having the lights on, watching TV and being on your phone completely negates any benefit from having standard time year round. The only natural rhythm is the one of equatorial regions if we are going to go the evolutionary route.

I've been waking up in the dark to go to work for over a month. You get used to it. We get a ton of days in the 40s now and even some 50s on a regular basis in winter. That's not bad at all to be outdoors. How about all the kids that do sports? It would really help a lot and they really do need the light.

Shinnecock inlet was made by that hurricane.

530 wouldn't be early enough for you?

Children in Europe have been going to school in the dark for centuries, I guess they're just tougher than us?

Who cares. The Sun already rises at 8AM at all locations on the western end of time zones. And the majority of Europe has a sunrise time much later than we do due to their higher latitude. Nobody dies there. You know what is terrible? The Sun going down at 4:20PM

I have been begging for permanent DST for years, I hope it actually happens