RevWarReenactor

Thanks for breaking out the 2 events! So do you really think areas of Vermont are looking at an additional 9 inches from the Saturday/Sunday event? Or is the Euro going high? Maybe its too early to call. Because honestly. I was going to be happy with 3-6 inches.....those numbers look pretty amazing. I will give those other areas in VT a look as well, quite a few good options. But I now agree that Albany is not a good one, it will snow, but Albany looks VTs Washington DC, at least for this storm. Its worth the extra 2 hour ish drive. Thanks again and good luck with the shoulder.!!Old injuries are weird like that, I still have pain from a wrist injury when I was 11 years old.

Wow, these are depressing stats. But thanks for providing them. I guess I just didn't realize how rare it was. I figured a 6 inch snowstorm, was kind of a once a year type thing on average to be very honest. I can even remember as a kid hearing a documentary on JFK that talked about how rare his inauguration eve snowstorm was...and I was thinking, snow in DC in January isn't rare. But obviously it is. I can't really argue with the stats of that not being true. I guess it just is what it is. I will have to be content with chasing and moving to a better area for snow in the future (My location is about the same climo as DC).

Thanks so much for the information and maps! Its a huge help! I am really getting excited for the chase and to experience some winter,. I think the Rutland area might be my place to go. Although I might adjust if there are any significant changes. I am comparing forecasts and its worth the little bit extra driving passed Albany into VT. I don't mind driving. I've adjusted. 7 hour drives to me are like nothing. It will be awesome for a number of reasons, below 0 temps Friday night (which I've only experience one other time in my life) Snow already on the ground, and then more. It will be a good weekend for sure. Some time to just clear my head. Again, thanks for the advice and help!

I am not necessarily after that one spot that is going to do the best in this storm. I just want to see a decent snowfall. But still, if traveling to an elevated area means quite a bit more, I shall do so.

Thanks! yeah, haven't booked yet. Just kind of zeroing in on a location. The problem with going way up into elevated areas is that there might not be hotels. But I am researching right now. I'll probably wait until tomorrow or Friday to book.

Thanks for the map! A journey further northwest looks to be in order.

I am going to chase Saturday to Albany. Even if its only 1-3 inches (I am hoping more like 3-6)......it will be nice to see some damn snow for a change.

"Looks good in 10-15 days"= In 10-15 days it will be a terrible pattern and we will say it looks good in 10-15 days.

Doesn't even seem like cold air is the only problem. No precip.

I am thinking of Poconos too, or further Northwest. Looking forward to some snow this weekend.

I remember that. I think it was 2015. I remember very clearly going for a walk in the park and breaking a sweat. But we turned it around that winter and got some decent snows if I remember correctly.......

Thanks again for your help and in the location information! Maybe I need to split the difference and find an area that gets more snow but is still a reasonable commute into work. It won't be ideal snowise, but it will be better than what I have here. I honestly think I might average less snowfall than DC and its strange that I have the same climo as Atlantic City. So its just not a good area. Too far east to do well in marginal events, too far west for a lot of coastal stuff. This garbage pretty much sums it up. Look at my location. That is what coastal storms often do for me, and as we saw last week, that is what I get from marginal events. Nothing. I win neither way.

Thanks so much for the description of my area!! Its very interesting and informative. See the below map for my location (black X), I am at the base of Iron Hill (circled in Red), which is a 332 ft hill and the highest in Delaware. I still have a 90 ft elevation but you'd be shocked that small difference between 90ft and 332ft often means a bit more snow up there. They got a bit more out of the last event (instead of nothing here they got a dusting there). Its only a half mile away. I honestly thought I was north enough to not see much impacts from either bay. I thought wrong. Also of note is the blue triangle, I drive that way to work and I have no idea why but its always a degree colder and snowier in that spot during marginal events. Its so strange. Its not even super elevated. I wonder if the hills to the south provide a buffer zone from the Cbay. Thanks for the information on your area. That would be a place I could live. But an hour and a half drive to work probably isn't doable for me. Maybe I could land somewhere north of Bel Air. That way I am in a better area, still within civilization, and within about 45 mins of work. I don't know. But even a 5 mile drive from APG up route 22 to I-95 away from the bay yields more snow. I've seen it happen. So the further away. The better. Thanks for the details on the climo. I guess I can't really argue it any further. It just feels like there needs to be an account of the years we get a lot more snow and that needs to be factored into the potential. But I guess ultimately, the totals we get on a year by year basis, don't lie. All they tell me is, I need to move to another area.

I get what you are saying in regards to the median. I still am not sure its an accurate measure of what the potential is. I want to know why the NWS uses average and not median. The capital weather gang also uses the average. Sure, the lower amounts will skew it down, but its range bound on the downward end but not on the upward end. Again, I don't think 10 inches would represent a good number for DC because in the example I used, if DC got around 10 inches for 10 years, it would be below what is expected. Not what is expected as you have said. Maybe we just have to agree to disagree. I understand the point you are making fully. I am just not sold it is an accurate measure of things. I don't think other pro mets are either. As far as the SW to NE orientation; that's the thing, it doesn't apply here. I am a full 80 miles west and somewhat north of Atlantic City. Did you know, we have similar climo? The west part does me absolutely not good. Far enough west to miss coastal storms. That's about the only thing the west part does for me. Its because, like you said, the Delaware Bay and the C bay are up my ass. Like I said, its a **** area for snow. Honestly, part of the reason I bought here is because I assumed that the SW/NE orientation balanced things out. It doesn't. I'd probably be good with about 35-40 inches per year. Its a good amount but its not so much that it gets annoying (I wouldn't want to do the 150 inches Syracuse does). I've thought about moving out into mapgirl Katie land, but honestly, no offense, its in the middle of nowhere. I like having all my resutrants, malls, hospitals, grocery stores, within about a 10 miles radius. I am not a fan of taking a 30 minute drive to civilization. I have to balance that with my love of snow and I just don't think its enough to make me move. I really would love nothing more for their to be civilization somewhere, anywhere, to the northwest of my location that is still within a doable driving distance from APG. But after extensive research, that place doesn't actually exist. Its a **** area. But I appreciate you replying to me!

Nothing more than a glorified snow shower for this area. But that was no surprise. Now on to what we do best, a SE ridge.

This tactic doesn't work. Done the whole log off for 2 weeks and came back to find 2 more weeks of winter was gone and it was still doom and gloom. Its happened 3-4 times.

It would seem the publi beach access and up to the wet area of the beach is public property. Obviously I can't walk onto someone's property to access that beach, but I certainly can access the beach in front of their house via another means, setup a chair, and they can't do a darn thing about it. Me and my friends use to go to Deal Beach and access from a public beach, and the Rich jerk who's house was there would always call the cops, cops would show up to tell the rich dude he was wrong. Good times.

On public property. Peaceful. Not harming anyone. There are no broken laws there. The govt can't close public property and charge you with a crime. Its different if my presence could harm someone else (such as standing in the middle of an interstate). What they do is unconstitutional. I have argued with people who've told me to leave beaches. They always tell me the cops will come and "take me away". Its all hot air. No cops ever show and if they did, they cant do anything. I've broken no laws.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_assembly

It's a valid point; and I wouldn't want any responder putting their life in danger for someone who didn't heed a mandatory evacuation. Then again, a responder always goes into dangerous situations to rescue people who put themselves in harms way. Where is the line? At what point are you infringing on my rights as a citizen to peacefully assemble on public property? I've been told that a beach was "closed" for 50 mph winds from some tropical storm 100 miles off the coast. That is infringing upon my rights. Because if we are going to go down that road then chasing is illegal. Are we ready to prosecute chasers? Are we ready to arrest people for exercising their constitutional rights?

Different set of circumstances. There are security risks with that. There are no security risks to standing on a public beach or other public property. LOL

Yep, bill em. But also stop doing unconstitutional things like closing public areas during Hurricanes. You can't close a beach. You can't tell me I can't be on public land. I don't know how these chasers actually get away with what they do. When Sandy hit, NJ beaches were essentially closed. It was illegal to be there. Which is unconstitutional to the max. So in summary. I can be on whatever public land whenever I want, if EMS can't reach me, or bills me for services, or I die because of my stupidity; that is on me.

Consensus is pretty crazy. Looks like Morehead City/ Beaufort/Emerald Isle are finished. Its really a shame. Been vacationing there since 1990. It really been built up a lot in the last 10 years. Bogue inlet pier has survived Fran, Bertha in 1996, and all the rest since. They just installed a brand new pierhouse. Thats all bye bye if this goes as forecasted. All those new million dollar houses on the beach with no protection.......

I am in Delaware and I go to the Mid Atlantic Forum. This place is dead. My weather doesn't always conform to DC, but areas as far north as northeast MD do get mentioned which is only 50 miles from Philly. It's also better on the days with a more northern snowstorm where DC gets 2 inches and I am looking at 6 inches and I can feel like I am in the sweet spot VS going to a NYC subforum and feeling like I am getting hosed.

I quit my idea of being a MET after my first year in college. The math I needed was RIDICULOUS. I am SO glad I got out. I have a good job that I like and I am making more now than I would have being a MET. I can still have meteorology as a hobby. No problem with that.