Itstrainingtime Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 19 minutes ago, sauss06 said: i follow him too. Insane videos Crazy stuff! Both of the guys that I've been following really seem to take all of this in stride. It's just another day living in the mountains... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 This is where I'll be staying in May: https://www.mammothmountain.com/on-the-mountain/mammoth-webcam/the-village 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 16 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: Yes sir. Not to bore you with meaningless info, but when watching these videos it's helpful to know this about the area: Mammoth Mountain is 11,053' in elevation. The ski area extends from the summit down to Canyon Lodge, which sits at 8,300'. (Main Lodge is at 8,900') The actual town of Mammoth Lakes sits at about 7,800'. Snow levels during the most recent storm rose to about 8,000' for a time on Friday, the town itself had a few hours of rain/snow mix. The town "only" received about 36" from the last storm, it was 5-1 ratio stuff as there was over 6.5" of liquid in that snow. That type of snow they refer to as "Sierra Cement" if you hear that in the videos you watch. There is also what is referred to as "The Village" which is a large area of rental condos and rooms that sits at 8,100' and is what you can view on mammothmountain.com cams - and that is where we'll be staying for 3 nights in May. All of those elevations are actually important as during a lot of Atmospheric River events, the snow level often rises to about 8,000'...so during a lot of storms, it's snowing like crazy on the Mountain and down to the Village while the "town" of Mammoth Lakes might be in a messy mix. Mammoth Lakes is expecting 20 -30" today and tonight. The mountain is expecting 42 - 54". On the mountain itself there will be close to 750" of snowfall for the season by tomorrow. More storms are expected next week and they are to be colder storms, with snow levels falling well below the town, so Mammoth Lakes will be getting a lot more snow in the coming weeks. So far, the flooding has been below the 6500' level. Once Mammoth Lakes gets into a bona fide thaw and/or has a significant rainfall, it could get ugly in town BUT unfortunately, it will be far worse down lower as of course...all of that melting snow in Mammoth Lakes and ultimately out on the mountain itself is going to go downhill from there. Thanks for the background. I was just thinking the other day how all of this would affect the long-term drought in areas of the west. Much of Cali is now out of D2 and not much D3 or D4 out there anymore. I must admit that beyond looking at the drought map, I do not follow it that closely. Ironically, I just looked, and YOU are in D0 now. I am sure parts of the LSV being in a drought will make Blizz happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: Thanks for the background. I was just thinking the other day how all of this would affect the long-term drought in areas of the west. Much of Cali is now out of D2 and not much D3 or D4 out there anymore. I must admit that beyond looking at the drought map, I do not follow it that closely. Ironically, I just looked, and YOU are in D0 now. I am sure parts of the LSV being in a drought will make Blizz happy. That's why I've been actively rooting for any rain we get. It has been dry. I'm not surprised to hear that. The entire LA basin depends on mountain snowmelt for water - I just read this morning that the snowpack on Mammoth Mountain now has over 90" of QPF in it. The all-time record is 98" of QPF which was set in 1983. There is a potential for significant long-term relief in the So Cal populous...but at what cost will that come if all of that water comes downhill too quickly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: That's why I've been actively rooting for any rain we get. It has been dry. I'm not surprised to hear that. The entire LA basin depends on mountain snowmelt for water - I just read this morning that the snowpack on Mammoth Mountain now has over 90" of QPF in it. The all-time record is 98" of QPF which was set in 1983. There is a potential for significant long-term relief in the So Cal populous...but at what cost will that come if all of that water comes downhill too quickly? Yea, the flooding is certainly a risk. It is a slippery slope to count on too much forward-thinking info, so I guess that have to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 All eyes on Next Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, paweather said: All eyes on Next Wednesday. Very low expectations - pretty much everything we need to go right has to, or it will either be a rainstorm or suppressed. When was the last time everything went right? Then again - maybe we're due... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: Very low expectations - pretty much everything we need to go right has to, or it will either be a rainstorm or suppressed. When was the last time everything went right? Then again - maybe we're due... We're OVER due! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Current storm has already dropped over 2 feet in parts of New England with many more hours of snow left to come... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandmasterB Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, Itstrainingtime said: Current storm has already dropped over 2 feet in parts of New England with many more hours of snow left to come... Shaping up to be a pretty big bust though in populated areas of CT/Eastern Mass. Forecast areas of 12-16 may end up with a few inches or none at all. Kinda fun to track actually since I had no emotional investment like I would have if it was impacting down here! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Early bird nooners...29 degrees with winds sustained 25-30 with gusts near 40. Wind chill in the 13-15 area. Quite cold for Mid March. Hopefully Ruin is taking it all in. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 @paweather do you have 3 browsers/tabs open hitting F5 on the CMC, GFS and Icon (until it gets to next Wed)? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: @paweather do you have 3 browsers/tabs open hitting F5 on the CMC, GFS and Icon (until it gets to next Wed)? How did you guess correctly? LOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 36 and blustery at noon. WFH today and was comfortable outside in a sweatshirt and shorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: 36 and blustery at noon. WFH today and was comfortable outside in a sweatshirt and shorts. Getting yourself Mammoth ready? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, paweather said: Getting yourself Mammoth ready? I was searching for a clever response but I ain't got nothin'. But yes...definitely getting ready for Mammoth and so much more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 As many say this is where we want it to be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, paweather said: As many say this is where we want it to be! It's fine for now - juiced up SS shortwave is what we want. Still a lot to work out and need to go right timing wise but at least it's a single vort in the south and we're not worrying about a stupid transfer or something like that. Yet. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomixwx Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 It looked like your neck of the woods made a good case for probably should’ve been part of the winter weather advisory tonight. I was dealing with a sick kid and was surprised to see the snow. About 3". Probably the third best event of the season lol.Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just had a 51 mph gust. It’s ramped up an entirely different level there last hour. Sustained around 33. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, canderson said: Just had a 51 mph gust. It’s ramped up an entirely different level there last hour. Sustained around 33. Speaking subjectively and only for my location, today is definitely a day where both the advisory and reality match. It's friggin howling outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Also, correction to my snowfall totals for Mammoth - the mountain will eclipse the 800" barrier tonight. 67 feet of snow and they have a good month or so left to add...and they will add quite a bit next week with 2 more storms in the pipeline... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 hours ago, GrandmasterB said: Shaping up to be a pretty big bust though in populated areas of CT/Eastern Mass. Forecast areas of 12-16 may end up with a few inches or none at all. Kinda fun to track actually since I had no emotional investment like I would have if it was impacting down here! Wanted to follow up on this. I store so much information in my head...have to keep on learning is my mantra. One thing I'm seeing a LOT of today while perusing the NE and NYC subs is this - much of the disappointment is not because it's not snowing but because it's not sticking. White rain abounds in areas where temps are marginal and intensity is not moderate to heavy. I think most in this thread know this but it's something to keep in mind...one of those recent GFS runs for next week had midday air temps around 34-36 degrees in the LSV. We'd be in trouble if that played out like that. Temp will have to be lower and we'll need big time rates to compensate for the date. Back in 2018 I was accumulating nicely midday first day of spring but it was legit +SN and it was 31 degrees. A lot of those reporting stations up there where white rain is falling are at 34-36 degrees... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandmasterB Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: Wanted to follow up on this. I store so much information in my head...have to keep on learning is my mantra. One thing I'm seeing a LOT of today while perusing the NE and NYC subs is this - much of the disappointment is not because it's not snowing but because it's not sticking. White rain abounds in areas where temps are marginal and intensity is not moderate to heavy. I think most in this thread know this but it's something to keep in mind...one of those recent GFS runs for next week had midday air temps around 34-36 degrees in the LSV. We'd be in trouble if that played out like that. Temp will have to be lower and we'll need big time rates to compensate for the date. Back in 2018 I was accumulating nicely midday first day of spring but it was legit +SN and it was 31 degrees. A lot of those reporting stations up there where white rain is falling are at 34-36 degrees... 100% correct. I know sun angle gets thrown around a lot across the forums, but in March it can be an accumulation killer. Especially, as you pointed out, in light to moderate intensity periods. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomixwx Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Wanted to follow up on this. I store so much information in my head...have to keep on learning is my mantra. One thing I'm seeing a LOT of today while perusing the NE and NYC subs is this - much of the disappointment is not because it's not snowing but because it's not sticking. White rain abounds in areas where temps are marginal and intensity is not moderate to heavy. I think most in this thread know this but it's something to keep in mind...one of those recent GFS runs for next week had midday air temps around 34-36 degrees in the LSV. We'd be in trouble if that played out like that. Temp will have to be lower and we'll need big time rates to compensate for the date. Back in 2018 I was accumulating nicely midday first day of spring but it was legit +SN and it was 31 degrees. A lot of those reporting stations up there where white rain is falling are at 34-36 degrees...ItsLearningTimeSent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather5 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Close to a big hit on the Euro, will take that with how over amped it is with every storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, paweather5 said: Close to a big hit on the Euro, will take that with how over amped it is with every storm. Yep just inland too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 25 minutes ago, paweather said: Yep just inland too far. this is the one that will hit. Its opening week of HS Baseball/softball. Book it now, this will be the one for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, sauss06 said: this is the one that will hit. Its opening week of HS Baseball/softball. Book it now, this will be the one for us I am changing you over to the coldinista group per this post :-). You had been in warminista. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 34 minutes ago, paweather5 said: Close to a big hit on the Euro, will take that with how over amped it is with every storm. Lanco gets completely screwed so obviously, that can't be...wrong. LOL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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