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Pittsburgh, PA/Western PA Fall/Winter Discussion 2022-23


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20 minutes ago, TimB said:

Summer is easier to appreciate after a real winter and when there isn’t a 75% chance it extends deep into October as recent climo would indicate.

Had a nice Fall this year.  Honestly, our luck we won’t even have a summer probably, after having no winter.  Watch it be 70 and rain everyday.

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16 minutes ago, Burghblizz said:

The key to squeezing out a couple inches today could be these temps.

The forecast temps are higher than the models but the obs this morning are tracking a bit lower. That might be a bit weenish, but I’m saying there is a chance.

Naw modeling accounts for that with the HRRR and it still torches all the way up to the 40s.

I wouldn't be surprised if the warm air pushes further north than predicted and even places like Central PA turn to rain.

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1 hour ago, Burghblizz said:

The key to squeezing out a couple inches today could be these temps.

The forecast temps are higher than the models but the obs this morning are tracking a bit lower. That might be a bit weenish, but I’m saying there is a chance.

I'll enjoy whatever snow we get, but pretty pessimistic with all the things going against it. My thinking is snow to start, but mainly mix / rain with the marginal temps and the weak lift / precip. The prospects of seeing much more than a slushy coating during daylight hours for my yard with a low elevation is a long shot. Areas just NW of the city may fair a little better but I think you need to really get even further than that for a satisfying event.

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51 minutes ago, Rd9108 said:

Looking to the next threat. If you like heavy snow then the NAM may give you your wish. Looks like a quick 3-5 before the changeover. Granted it's the long range NAM but most other guidance has the same idea at this point.

I hate looking past events, but yeah right now that one has a better shot of putting down a couple inches. Plus if it's via heavy snow even better.

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3 minutes ago, RitualOfTheTrout said:

:lol: What else can you do but laugh, given the setup etc it's setting up in a way that matches our climo for this type of event.

Thing that sucks is track alone this should have been better, just no antecedent cold air to work with 

This one is easier to swallow seeing as how the ceiling is around 3 or 4 inches and places as far north as clarion aren't even progged to get any snow really. 

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Every station in Ohio is reporting snow. Why can’t this slide a little East so we don’t get rain. 

 

 
ASUS41 KCLE 221600
RWRCLE
OHIO REGIONAL WEATHER ROUNDUP
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WILMINGTON, OH
1100 AM EST SUN JAN 22 2023

NOTE: "FAIR" INDICATES FEW OR NO CLOUDS BELOW 12,000 FEET WITH NO
SIGNIFICANT WEATHER AND/OR OBSTRUCTIONS TO VISIBILITY.

OHZ001>008-015>018-024>027-034-035-043-044-221700-
   NORTHWEST OHIO

CITY           SKY/WX    TMP DP  RH WIND       PRES   REMARKS
DEFIANCE       LGT SNOW  31  28  89 E5        29.89F FOG     WCI  26
FINDLAY        LGT SNOW  32  29  88 SE8       29.88S FOG     WCI  25
TOLEDO EXPRESS LGT SNOW  32  29  88 E6        29.89F VSB 1   WCI  26
TOLEDO EXEC    LGT SNOW  32  29  88 SE5       29.92S VSB 1   WCI  27
LIMA           LGT SNOW  31  28  89 E8        29.85F FOG     WCI  23
$$

OHZ009>014-019>023-028>033-038-089-221700-
   NORTHEAST OHIO

CITY           SKY/WX    TMP DP  RH WIND       PRES   REMARKS
CLE-HOPKINS    SNOW      31  28  89 E3        29.89F VSB 1/4
CLE-LAKEFRONT  SNOW      32  30  92 E5        29.91F VSB 1/4 WCI  27
CUY CO. ARPT   HVY SNOW  30  27  86 CALM      29.92R VSB 1/4
LORAIN-ELYRIA  SNOW      31  28  89 SE6       29.91F VSB 1/2 WCI  25
ASHTABULA      NOT AVBL
AKRON-CANTON   FLURRIES  33  25  72 NE3       29.88S
WOOSTER        LGT SNOW  28  28 100 E5        29.89F VSB 3/4 WCI  23
MANSFIELD      SNOW      29  27  92 E9        29.85F VSB 1/2 WCI  20
YOUNGSTOWN     CLOUDY    32  25  75 SE8       29.87F WCI  25
$$

OHZ042-051>053-060>062-070>072-077>081-221700-
  SOUTHWEST OHIO

CITY           SKY/WX    TMP DP  RH WIND       PRES   REMARKS
CINC-COVINGTON SNOW      31  31 100 E3        29.81F VSB 1/4
CINC-LUNKEN    LGT SNOW  32  31  96 NE5       29.84F VSB 3/4 WCI  27
HAMILTON       LGT SNOW  32  30  92 CALM      29.85F VSB 3/4
DAYTON         NOT AVBL
WRIGHT-PAT AFB SNOW      30  29  95 NE5       29.81F VSB 1/2 WCI  25
DAYTON GENERAL SNOW      31  29  92 E5        29.81F VSB 1/2 WCI  26
WILMINGTON     SNOW      31  29  92 E3        29.82F VSB 1/4
$$

OHZ036-037-039>041-045>050-054>059-063>069-073>076-082>088-221700-
  CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST OHIO

CITY           SKY/WX    TMP DP  RH WIND       PRES   REMARKS
COLUMBUS       LGT SNOW  31  30  96 E3        29.85F VSB 1
OSU AIRPORT    HVY SNOW  32  29  88 N5        29.85F VSB 1/4 WCI  27
BOLTON FIELD   SNOW      30  28  93 SE6       29.85F VSB 1/2 WCI  24
RICKENBACK AFB SNOW      31  29  95 NE7       29.85F VSB 1/2 WCI  24
NEWARK         SNOW      31  28  89 NE7       29.85F VSB 1/2 WCI  24
MARION         SNOW      30  28  92 E5        29.86F VSB 1/4 WCI  25
LANCASTER      LGT SNOW  31  29  92 NE6       29.85F VSB 3/4 WCI  25
ZANESVILLE     LGT SNOW  33  27  78 CALM      29.86F
NEW PHILLY     LGT SNOW  32  27  81 CALM      29.89F
$$


 
 
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Well, at least there's no shortage of activity, even in the long range.  We'll likely continue to have temperature issues, but if we can time something right, we may be able to eke out a moderate event, at some point.

Otherwise we may rely on tiny doses of snow to add up to something meaningful on paper.

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2 minutes ago, TimB said:

Oh for Christ’s sake.

Edit: just kidding, that’s a 12 hour map. We still get a nice little 3 inch event on the front end.

Haha, the band looks tonhave some heavy snow too. Could see some nice rates for a bit.

Also the HRRR has us getting some snow on the backend for tomorrow.

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