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November 2022 OBS/DISC


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7 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Higher terrain in SNE may struggle to hit 40F for the next week after today. Full on winter in NNE...esp at elevation. Should be plenty of Tip's pond ice (albeit thin) by middle of next week.

T-day and beyond still kind of a wildcard on model guidance. GEFS looks MUCH colder than EPS for Tday weekend. So we gotta see how that unfolds over the next few days on model guidance.

Had pond ice yesterday morning in the kettle hole the kid skate on.

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Just now, Ginx snewx said:

Had pond ice yesterday morning in the kettle hole the kid skate on.

With really weak sun angle now, I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of local ponds with ice on them by next Wednesday. Even when you're hitting like 38-41F during the day, it's only for a few hours and you have a lot of shade now these days at 2-3pm with the low sun angle. Then you're going 18-25F at night for 10+ hours.

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GFS is showing the colder Tday and beyond solution....you can see the overrunning setup there with the classic Scooter high from the Canadian prairies sprawling east. Euro does not show this though....this is where the model disagreement is on how much that cold presses south.

 

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1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said:

GFS is showing the colder Tday and beyond solution....you can see the overrunning setup there with the classic Scooter high from the Canadian prairies sprawling east. Euro does not show this though....this is where the model disagreement is on how much that cold presses south.

 

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Great look there. 

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I am thinking about moving my Davis somewhere else on the property, but currently is in a perfect position relative to trees/sun/house. It just so happens to be at the lowest point of the property. Might add a second weather station. Any good recommendations that aren't on on the Davis level of cost but have a good thermometer/hygrometer combo?

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6 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Great look there. 

Yeah you have the cold firmly established prior to the system getting in here. That's a classic long duration overrunning look there. Probably not gonna happen, but that is what you want to see for those looking at model guidance for next weekend if you are trying to get a wintry system in here.

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11 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

GFS is showing the colder Tday and beyond solution....you can see the overrunning setup there with the classic Scooter high from the Canadian prairies sprawling east. Euro does not show this though....this is where the model disagreement is on how much that cold presses south.

 

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-NAO flexing a bit? Looks like the whole system slows down...

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2 minutes ago, Spanks45 said:

-NAO flexing a bit? Looks like the whole system slows down...

Yes....the remnant EPO/PNA ridge sort of teams up with the reotgrading NAO block and forms a ridge-bridge right in the Baffin Island/N Davis Strait region.....it presses that PV lobe down into SE Canada....below is the look on Tday on that run. This is what sets the stage for the winter wx. If we don't get that, then it will be pretty mild like the Euro.....night and day solutions.

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2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Yes....the remnant EPO/PNA ridge sort of teams up with the reotgrading NAO block and forms a ridge-bridge right in the Baffin Island/N Davis Strait region.....it presses that PV lobe down into SE Canada....below is the look on Tday on that run. This is what sets the stage for the winter wx. If we don't get that, then it will be pretty mild like the Euro.....night and day solutions.

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Amazing the difference in look, especially being "only" 7-8 days out. One of them should start to cave fairly soon I would think. This is a pretty large scale pattern, versus a system possibly phasing or how close to the coast it might be...

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2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Yes....the remnant EPO/PNA ridge sort of teams up with the reotgrading NAO block and forms a ridge-bridge right in the Baffin Island/N Davis Strait region.....it presses that PV lobe down into SE Canada....below is the look on Tday on that run. This is what sets the stage for the winter wx. If we don't get that, then it will be pretty mild like the Euro.....night and day solutions.

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GFS has a legit classic pattern progression with the retrograding -NAO into Canada and the 50/50 pushing off of Nova Scotia... obviously it's far out there, but this is the type of setup where you have a lot of pieces needed for an anomalous event to take place

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10 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said:

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GFS has a legit classic pattern progression with the retrograding -NAO into Canada and the 50/50 pushing off of Nova Scotia... obviously it's far out there, but this is the type of setup where you have a lot of pieces needed for an anomalous event to take place

8 out of 10 times these things don't work out but odds are a little better this time.

The Arctic blocking looks real. GEFS also agrees

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On 11/14/2022 at 7:31 AM, dryslot said:

Next shot looks the weekend after thanksgiving for wintry weather out side of the areas that will see snow weds.

I've been liking this time frame now for a while now, Been on the models and their ensembles for the last 10 days or so, This one could be a significant producer for many.

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Just now, Snowcrazed71 said:

So who did better for the storm we have the last night and today? GFS or the ECM?

Euro and GFS were pretty darn close inside of 36h...but I'd say the GFS was prob worse at like D3 and 4....it was flatter than a lot of guidance.

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32 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Euro still not biting on the GFS/GGEM type push of cold prior to Tday.....keeps it north of the Canadian border. It did trend much better with the blocking, but it wasn't enough on this run.

I think the T-Day system will be a tall order right now however Euro cutter causes a wave break that might help big time in early December. 

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