the_other_guy Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 50 minutes ago, forkyfork said: if it were erroneous the nws would do something about it Foliage? Sorry, couldnt resist 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 85 here on the island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Severe thunderstorm watches extended through nyc into Nassau County or just up to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Newark has been close to 100 numerous times this year. In my area it just has not been a very hot summer. Currently: Central Park 88 White Plains 85 Trenton 90 Newark 97 Morristown 91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Newark has been close to 100 numerous times this year. In my area it just has not been a very hot summer. Currently: Central Park 88 White Plains 85 Trenton 90 Newark 97 Morristown 91Newark seems out of line, but I drive from PA to CT almost every week, and when I go through that area the temps always seem to go a couple degrees higher near the airport.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyg Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Cell on the NJ border just popped a tornado warning. Nasty hail core on it, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, Superstorm said: Newark seems out of line, but I drive from PA to CT almost every week, and when I go through that area the temps always seem to go a couple degrees higher near the airport. . Tough to say. Newark is all concrete. The Wx Station is in a grassy area, but close enough to the tarmac to pick up the heat. It's just far enough inland not to be affected much from the ocean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 bust on the storms again, shocker. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, Snowlover11 said: bust on the storms again, shocker. Dry, makes dry. Looking up at the sky in Manhattan currently it’s almost like the atmosphere screams storms but the reality is there isn’t enough surface moisture. I expect more fails until we can change the flow and get those high dews we now expect this time of year back 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Did well here. Hail pea to some marble size. Winds gusts to est. 40 mph. Not enough hail to coat the ground but hail nonetheless. Did not go out to read the gauge but has to be .50" to .75" based on how hard it rained for roughly 20 min. Will check total in the morning. Thunder and lightning was minimal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 18 hours ago, SACRUS said: 7/11 TEB: 89 EWE: 88 NewBrsnswck: 87 PHL: 86 NYC: 85 TTN: 85 LGA: 84 BLM: 83 ACY: 81 JFK: 81 ISP: 80 So yesterday their temp sensor was fine but today it's wrong? I'm just trying to understand where people are coming from. I'm not sure if it's off by a few degrees or not but I'm going with their readings until someone proves otherwise. **This isnt a a question aimed at you, Sacrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 No rain to speak of here, the past few weeks and tonight looks no different. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 10 hours ago, bluewave said: Big Ambrose Jet day as the best heat sets up over NJ and interior SE NY again. Much cooler near the South Shore with wind gusts to 35mph. So plenty of blowing sand and dangerous rip currents at the beach today. 1 hour ago, lee59 said: Newark has been close to 100 numerous times this year. In my area it just has not been a very hot summer. Currently: Central Park 88 White Plains 85 Trenton 90 Newark 97 Morristown 91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, lee59 said: No rain to speak of here, the past few weeks and tonight looks no different. Yeah, it's been dry as hell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rjay said: So yesterday their temp sensor was fine but today it's wrong? I'm just trying to understand where people are coming from. I'm not sure if it's off by a few degrees or not but I'm going with their readings until someone proves otherwise. **This isnt a a question aimed at you, Sacrus Yesterday had a SSE wind which seems to keep them in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, Stormlover74 said: Yesterday had a SSE wind which seems to keep them in check. But doesn't that almost prove it's not a sensor issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Tomorrow will be another hot day. Widespread 90s are possible. Somewhat cooler air will arrive afterward. In the South and Southwest, a significant heatwave continues. Through 4:35 pm MST, Phoenix had a high temperature of 112°. Phoenix will likely see numerous 110° or above temperatures and several minimum temperatures of 90° or above through the remainder of the week. Elsewhere, Austin reached 109° for the third consecutive day. That tied the record for most consecutive days at 109° or above, which was set during August 27-29, 2011. It also toppled the daily record of 107° from 1954. At Galveston, today was the 10th consecutive day on which the daily record high minimum temperature was either tied or broken. During June 16-20, the MJO has been in Phase 1 at an amplitude of 1.500 or above. Of the six cases that saw such an outcome during June 15-25 (1988, 2003, 2010, 2012, 2017 and 2020), four had a warmer than normal July, one was somewhat cooler than normal and one was cooler than normal. The ECMWF seasonal forecast indicates that the summer will be warmer than normal throughout the region and across much of North America. Based on how the pattern has been evolving during the spring transition to summer, it is more likely than not that the warmest anomalies of the summer will likely occur in July and August with June being the coolest of the three months in the Northeast. The latest ECMWF monthly forecast indicates that July will be warmer than June relative to normal and that August will be the warmest summer month relative to normal. In addition, in the 6 past cases when the June AO averaged +0.750 or above (1950-2021), 50% of the following July cases were warmer than normal. 67% of the following August and September cases featured above normal temperatures. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was -1.2°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.5°C for the week centered around July 6. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -1.30°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.65°C. La Niña conditions will likely persist through the summer. The SOI was +12.25. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +0.136 today. On July 10 the MJO was in Phase 5 at an amplitude of 0.658 (RMM). The July 9-adjusted amplitude was 0.897 (RMM). Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 65% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal July (1991-2020 normal). July will likely finish with a mean temperature near 78.6° (1.1° above normal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Rjay said: But doesn't that almost prove it's not a sensor issue? It would seem like it might prove that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Another bust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Nothing here but most models showed zip today locally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 7/12 EWR: 98 TEB: 94 New Brnswck: 93 BLM: 93 PHL: 93 TTN: 92 LGA: 91 NYC: 90 ACY: 88 JFK: 83 ISp: 82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Nothing here but most models showed zip today locally The widespread watch was a bit perplexing. I feel like they've been very bullish this year with issuing them 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 93/68 split today....feels like first really warm summer evening with 85° currently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Getting dry. Not a drop from those cells. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 The reasons lie in the region’s geography and settlement patterns: Cities heat up more than outlying areas do, Newark sits near sea level, and it is not blessed by the ocean breezes that can take the edge off the heat in New York City and Connecticut and on Long Island. (A somewhat wonkier explanation is below.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 No rain today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksCO_PA Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Rjay said: But doesn't that almost prove it's not a sensor issue? Combo sensor & the location is not suitable??? When you have numerous days like today in which day time temps are 4-5 degrees warmer compared to the immediate Newark area consensus then something's clearly wrong. 1-2 degree errors you deal with since that's not out of tolerance however 4-5 degrees renders the location useless as a frame of reference for the immediate metro area. A retired professional from NYC indicated there have been concerns with the sensor location being abnormally dry. After a run of some very wet July's Newark if off to a bone dry start this month, is this exacerbating the situation??? In any event I'll hitch my wagon to the Dr. that's been the NJ State Climatologist for the past 30 yrs. He has been in contact with Brookhaven ad nauseum regarding Newark. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 @forkyfork. What was your high today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, BucksCO_PA said: Combo sensor & the location is not suitable??? When you have numerous days like today in which day time temps are 4-5 degrees warmer compared to the immediate Newark area consensus then something's clearly wrong. 1-2 degree errors you deal with since that's not out of tolerance however 4-5 degrees renders the location useless as a frame of reference for the immediate metro area. A retired professional from NYC indicated there have been concerns with the sensor location being abnormally dry. After a run of some very wet July's Newark if off to a bone dry start this month, is this exacerbating the situation??? In any event I'll hitch my wagon to the Dr. that's been the NJ State Climatologist for the past 30 yrs. He has been in contact with Brookhaven ad nauseum regarding Newark. My question is though, why do the temps at EWR seem more accurate on seabreeze days than on hot days without a seabreeze influence? How was EWR in line with most areas around them yesterday if there's a sensor issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will - Rutgers Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rjay said: @forkyfork. What was your high today? EWR hit 97 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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