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November 2021 temperature forecast contest


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Predict the temperature anomalies (F deg) relative to 1991-2020 for these nine locations ...

____ DCA _ NYC _ BOS __ ORD _ ATL _ IAH ___ DEN _ PHX _ SEA

... deadline 06z Monday Nov 1st or late Sunday evening or very early Monday (2 a.m. EDT)

... may do the snowfall contest with the DEC contest this year. 

Good luck !

 

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DCA _ NYC _ BOS __ ORD _ ATL _ IAH ___ DEN _ PHX _ SEA

-1.4    -0.5     0.1        -0.4   -1.6     -0.6       0.8      1.0     0.6        

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The backup of posts is no longer needed and has been deleted now that the table of entries is complete. 

Good luck everyone and welcome to Stormchaser Chuck. 

I have posted scoring for October including an annual update; this will be adjusted tomorrow but the anomalies cannot change very much as they are based on all info now. See also notes at the bottom of the annual update about your status in the best forecast and extreme forecast tables. If S.C. wins any of those awards, it will be noted but then a second award will take place within the regular group of forecasters (which includes DZ who has four contests now -- if you're wondering why you can't see DZ in the thread, he submits by e-mail as this is his only participation in Am Wx at present.) Which reminds me, check my e-mail.

 

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Table of forecasts for November 2021

 

FORECASTER ___________ DCA _NYC _BOS __ ORD _ATL _IAH ___ DEN _PHX _SEA ____ bias

 

Stormchaser Chuck ____  +2.0_ +2.0_ +1.8 ___  0.0_ +2.0_ +1.0 ____ 0.0_ +0.5_ -1.5 ___ +0.73

Scotty Lightning ________ +1.5 _+1.0 _+1.0 __ +1.0 _+1.5 _ +1.5 ___ +0.5 _+1.0 _+0.5 ___ +1.09

so_whats_happening ____+1.3_ +1.5_ +1.6 __ +0.6_ -0.8_ +1.4 ___ +1.5_ +0.9 _ -1.0 ___ +0.67

BKViking ________________+0.2_ +0.4_ +0.5 __ -1.0_ +0.2_ +1.3 ___ +1.5_ +1.4_ +1.0 ___ +0.50

hudsonvalley21 _________ +0.1_ +0.6_ +0.6 __ +0.8_ +1.0_ +1.8 ___ +2.4_ +2.5_ -0.2 ___ +0.96

__ Normal ________________ 0.0 __ 0.0 __0.0 ___ 0.0 __0.0 __0.0 ____ 0.0 __ 0.0 __ 0.0 ___ -0.11

DonSutherland1 ________  -0.3_ -0.2 _ +0.2 __ +0.5 _-0.1 _ +0.2 ___ +1.2_ +1.0_ +0.2 ___ +0.19

Roger Smith ____________ -0.3 _ -0.4 _ +1.0 __ -1.5 _ -1.5 _ -1.2 ___ +2.4 _ +1.5 _ +0.8 ___ -0.02

__ Consensus ___________-0.3 _ -0.1 _ +0.5 __ -0.4 _ -1.0 _ +0.5 ___ +0.8 _ +1.0 _ 0.0 ___ 

Deformation Zone _______-1.0 __+0.5 __ 0.0 __ -1.0 _-1.0 __ 0.0 ___ +0.5_ +1.0 __ 0.0 ___-0.22

Tom _____________________ -1.1 _ -0.9 _ -0.8 ___ -1.1 _ -2.1 _ -1.8 ___ +0.1_ +0.9 _+0.5 ___ -0.81

wxallannj ________________ -1.2 _-1.2 _ -1.0 ____+1.0 _-1.5 _+0.5 ___ +0.7_ +1.9 _ -1.0 ___ -0.31

RodneyS ________________ -1.4_ -0.1 _ +0.5 ___ -0.4 _-1.6 _ -0.6 ___ +0.8 _+1.0_ +0.6 ___ -0.24

RJay ____________________ -1.5 _ -1.5 _ -1.5 ___ -1.0 _ -1.5 _+2.0 ___ +1.0 _ +1.5 _  0.0 ___ -0.39

wxdude64 _______________-1.7 -1.6 _  -1.2 ___ -1.8 _ -1.3 _ -0.9 ___ +0.4 _+2.2_ -0.6 ___ -0.86

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Highest and lowest forecasts are color coded. Coldest for PHX (and DEN tied with SC) is Normal. 

Bias is the average departure of your forecasts from consensus (which are medians of all 13 forecasts excluding Normal). 

 

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Anomalies and some projections ...

________________________ DCA _ NYC _ BOS _ ORD _ ATL _ IAH _ DEN _ PHX _ SEA

11th __ (anom 10d) _____-1.8 _ -1.2 _ +0.5 __ -0.2 _ -1.9 _ -3.6 _ +5.1 _ +4.1 _ -0.3

21st __ (anom 20d) _____-1.1 _ -0.6 _ +1.4 __ -0.8 _ -0.6 _ -1.0 _ +5.0 _ +4.5 _ +0.5

 

11th __ (p anom 20d) ___-1.0 _ -0.8 __ 0.0 __ -2.0 _ -1.5 _ -1.5 _ +3.0 _ +4.5 _ -0.5

11th __ (p anom 27d) ___ -1.0 _ -1.0 __ 0.0 __ -1.5 _ -1.0 _ -1.0 _ +2.5 _ +4.0 _ -1.0

21st __ (p anom 30d) ___ -1.5 _ -1.0 _ +0.5 _ -1.5 _ -1.0 _ -1.0 _ +3.0 _ +4.0 __ 0.0

26th __ (p anom 30d) ___ -2.0 _ -1.5 __0.0 __ -2.0 _ -1.5 _ +0.5 _ +5.0 _ +5.0 _ 0.0

30th __ (final anoms) ___ -2.0 _ -1.8 __0.0 __-1.0 _ -1.3 _ -0.6 _ +6.9 _+5.0 _+1.4

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11th _ A rather cold start for parts of the eastern and central states, and also the Pac NW, but mild in the southwest ...

after a few warmer days in the east, this pattern looks set to reload but with enough variability to keep anomalies quite close to zero. The longer term projection maintains the same trends since the output of the GFS for days 11-16 looks about the same. The size of the anomalies is scaled down in that more distant interval. 

21st _ Some colder days ahead for most eastern and central locations, although with fairly mild intervals moderating the overall impact on current anomalies which are already slightly negative in most of those places. Continued fairly mild in the west. 

26th _ Reset the end of month predictions for provisional scoring to begin. 

30th _ Final data now posted. Just minor editing left to do on scoring files which will be complete soon, titles of scoring posts will indicate status.

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You never know with Denver, they can run +4 for three weeks and then lose it all in two or three -25 anomaly days but PHX seems to run either blandly 2-4 above average or quite chilly the odd month, so far this has not been the odd month. 

This is the hardest I have ever hugged consensus in about ten years of these contests. It might prove to be a good idea. 

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Final scoring for November 2021

DEN and PHX scores have been boosted to "max 60" format as raw scores too low. The ^ symbol indicates scoring boosted from maximum progression (60, 55, 50 ... etc ... 10, 05, 00) for thirteen forecasts. Some of the lower scores for PHX stay on raw scores which are higher at present than the two tied 10 (18 raw score) and zero (10 raw score) levels of the progression. Consensus and Normal scores in line with boosted scores.

 

FORECASTER __________ DCA_NYC_BOS__east__ORD_ATL_IAH__cent_ c/e ___DEN_PHX_SEA__west____TOTALS

__ Confirmed anoms ___-2.0 _-1.8 __ 0.0 __ __ __ -1.0 _-1.3 _-0.6 ____ ___ ____ +6.9_+5.0_ +1.4


Roger Smith ____________ 66 _ 72 _ 80 __ 218 __ 90 _ 96 _ 88 __ 274 __ 492 ___ 60^_ 45^_ 88 ___193 ____ 685

RodneyS ________________88 _ 66 _ 90 __ 244 __ 88 _ 94 _100__ 282 __ 526 ___ 30^_ 30^_ 84 ___144 ____ 670

wxdude64 ______________94 96 _ 76 __ 266 __ 84 _100_ 94 __ 278 __ 544___ 10^_ 55^_ 60 ___125 ____ 669

RJay ____________________90 _ 94 _ 80 __ 264 __100_ 96 48 __ 244 __ 508 ___ 35^_ 45^_ 72 ___152 ____ 660

Deformation Zone _______80 _ 54 _100 __234 __100_ 94 _ 88 __ 282 __ 516 ___ 20^_ 30^_ 72 __ 122 ____ 638

wxallannj _______________ 84 _ 88 _ 90 __ 262 __ 60 _ 96 _ 78 __ 234 __ 496 ___ 25^_ 50^_ 52 ___127 ____ 623

__ Consensus ___________ 66 _ 66 _ 90 __ 222 __ 88 _ 94 _ 78__ 260 __ 482 ___ 30^_ 30^_ 72 __ 132 ____ 614

BKViking ________________56 _ 56 _ 90 __ 202 __100_ 70 _ 62 __ 234 __ 436 ___ 50^_ 35^_ 92__ 177 ____ 613

Tom ____________________ 82 _ 82 _ 84 __ 248 __ 98 _ 84 _ 76 __ 258 __ 506 ___ 05^_ 18 _ 82 ___ 105 ____ 611 

DonSutherland1 ________  66 _ 68 _ 96 __ 230 __ 70 _ 76 _ 84 __ 230 __ 460 ___ 40^_ 30^_ 76 __ 146 ____ 606 

hudsonvalley21 _________ 58 _ 52 _ 88 __ 198 __ 64 _ 54 _ 52 __ 170 __ 368 ___ 60^_ 60^_ 68__ 188 ____ 556

__ Normal _______________60 _ 64 _100 __ 224 __ 80 _ 74 _ 88 __ 242 __ 466 ___ 00 _ 00 _ 72 __ 072 ____ 538

so_whats_happening ____34 _ 34 _ 68 __ 136 __ 68 _ 90 _ 60 __ 218 __ 354 ___ 50^_ 18 _ 52 __ 120 ____ 474

Scotty Lightning ________ 30 _ 44 _ 80 __ 154 __ 60 _ 44 _ 58 __ 162 __ 316 ___ 20^_ 30^_ 82 __ 132 ____ 448

Stormchaser Chuck ____  20 _ 24 _ 64 __ 108 __ 80 _ 34 _ 68 __ 182 __ 290 ___ 00 _ 10 _ 42 ___ 052 ____ 342 

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Extreme forecast report

DCA _ wxdude64 wins with lowest forecast (-1.7).

NYC _ wxdude64 wins with lowest forecast (-1.6).

BOS _ Did not qualify as fifth coldest forecast had high score.

ORD _ Did not qualify as tied fourth coldest forecasts had high scores. 

ATL _ Did not qualify as fifth coldest forecast had high score.

IAH _ Did not qualify as fourth coldest forecast had high score.

DEN _ Shared win (hudsonvalley21, Roger Smith, +2.4).

PHX _ hudsonvalley21 (+2.5) wins with highest forecast.

SEA _ BKViking (+1.0) wins with warmest forecast.

summary _ 5 of 9 likely to qualify, 2 with coldest forecast, 3 with warmest. 

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<<<< ============ - - - - Annual Scoring for 2021 (Jan-Nov) - - - - ============ >>>> 

 

High scores for nine locations shown in red, high scores for regions in bold. Change in rank is shown after forecaster name. No entry there means same position as last month. Consensus stayed in the gap between 4th and 5th place among forecasters. Normal remained in the gap between 10th and 11th (Roger Smith the only full-time forecast contest entrant behind Normal although most of the deficit erased in November, differential down from 202 to 55 -- my scores were so bad in the first half of this contest year that winning three months since June still leaves me stuck in last place). Any changes shown for forecasters do not include forecasters moving past consensus or normal, or vice versa. As it happens, only two ranks changed for the forecasters in November (subject to final adjustments) as wxdude64 moved past so_whats_happening.

RodneyS in second moved from 171 back to 107 behind leader DonSutherland1. December will determine who takes the top spot with third place BKViking 215 points behind, which is a tall order with those two ahead of him, but not impossible. 

 

FORECASTER _________________DCA_NYC_BOS__east _ ORD_ATL_IAH__cent __c/e ___ DEN_PHX_SEA__west___TOTALS

 

DonSutherland1 ______________ 773 _826 _598 _ 2197 __708 _864 _780 _23524549__506 _713 _746 _1965___ 6514

RodneyS _____________________ 741 _798 _605 _ 2144 __ 599 _850 _712 _ 2161__4305 __596 _724 _782 _2102___ 6407

BKViking _____________________ 741 _814 _605 _ 2160 __ 571 _803 _728 _ 2102__4262 __605 _666 _766 _2037___ 6299

Tom __________________________800 _879 _645 _ 2324__545 _733 _760 _ 2038__4362 __547 _619 _740 _1906___ 6268

 

___ Consensus (up 1) _________ 781 _828 _596 _ 2205 __562 _800 _730 _ 2092__4297 __576 _633 _740 _ 1949___ 6246

 

wxallannj _____________________ 727 _798 _559 _ 2084 __511 _766 _742 _ 2019__4103 __703 _619 _778 _2100 ___6203

hudsonvalley21 _______________750 _783 _610 _ 2143 __490 _772 _688 _ 1950__4093 __549 _668 _789_ 2006___ 6099

RJay _________________________ 745 _801 _636 _ 2182 __632 _775 _665 _ 2072 __4254 __568 _556 _621 _1745___ 5999

wxdude64 (up 1) _____________ 768 _741 _553 _ 2062 __482 _785 _738 _ 2005 __4067 __590 _640 _684 _1914___ 5981

so_whats_happening (down 1)_ 777_749 _457 _ 1983 __550 _822 _623 _ 1995 __3978 __520 _616 _679 _ 1815___ 5793

Scotty Lightning _____________ 705 _744 _528 _ 1977 __421 _678 _666 _ 1765 __3742 __570 _607 _758 _ 1935___ 5677

___ Normal ___________________ 712 _680 _444 _ 1836__366 _764 _758 _ 1888__3724 __530 _644 _750 _1924___ 5648

Roger Smith __________________685 _638 _368 _ 1691 __550 _688 _774 _ 2012 __3703 __562 _584 _744 _1890___ 5593

Deformation Zone _ (5/11) ___ 313 _ 272 _254 __ 839 __252 _380 _340 __ 972__ 1811 __246 _260 _336 __842___2653

(for comparison prorated)^^ __689 _598 _559 _ 1846 __554 _836 _748 _ 2138 __3984 __ 541 _ 572 _738 _1851 __ 5835

this may not be exact because scoring in the five months DZ has entered may have been higher or lower than avg.

Stormchaser Chuck (1/11) ____ 020 _ 024 _ 064 _ 108 __080 _034 _068 _ 182 ___ 290 ___000 _ 010 _ 042_ 052 ___ 342 

 

Best scores for the locations and regions 

(note, for NOV, ATL  not yet updated due to close scoring)

 

FORECASTER ___________ DCA _ NYC _ BOS __ east __ ORD _ ATL _ IAH __ cent __ c/e ___ DEN _ PHX _ SEA __ west ___ Totals

 

DonSutherland1 __________ 2 ____ 0 ____ 0 _____ 2 ______4 ____ 1 ____ 1 ____ 4 ____ 4 _____ 0 ____ 3 ____ 1 _____ 0 _____ 1 __ Jan 

RodneyS _________________ 2 ____ 2 ____ 2 _____ 1 ______ 1 ____ 2 ____ 1 ____ 3 ____ 1 _____ 0 ____ 2 ____ 0 _____ 2 _____ 2 __Feb,Jul

BKViking __________________ 1 ____ 1 ____ 1 _____ 1 ______ 1 ____ 0 ____ 3 ____ 0 ____ 0 _____ 0 ____ 1 ____ 3 _____ 0 ____ 1 __ Apr

Tom ______________________ 2 ____ 2 ____ 1 _____ 2 ______ 0 ____ 0 ____ 1 ____ 0 ____ 1 _____ 0 ____ 0 ____ 2 _____ 1 ____ 1 __ May

___ Consensus ____________ 0 ____ 0 ____ 0_____ 0 ______ 0 ____ 1 ____ 1 ____ 0 ____ 0 _____ 0 ____ 0 ____ 1 _____ 0 ____ 0 __ 

wxallannj _________________ 0 ____ 2 ____ 1 _____ 0 ______ 1 ____ 1 ____ 2 ____ 1 ____ 0 _____ 4 ____ 1 ____ 1 _____ 3 _____ 0 __

hudsonvalley21 ___________ 0 ____ 0 ____0 _____ 1 ______ 0 ____ 0 ____ 0 ____ 0 ____0 _____ 1 ____ 1 ____ 3 _____ 1 _____ 0 __ 

RJay ______________________ 1 ____ 2 ____ 4 _____ 1 ______ 2 ____ 1 ____ 2 ____ 1 ____ 2 _____ 1 ____ 0 ____ 0 _____ 0 _____ 2 __Sep,Oct

wxdude64 ________________ 2 ____ 1 ____ 0 _____ 2 ______0 ____ 0 ____ 0 ____ 0 ____ 1 _____ 2 ____ 1 ____ 0 _____ 2 _____ 1 __ Mar(t)

so_whats_happening ______ 3 ____ 1 ____ 1 _____ 1 ______ 1 ____ 2 ____ 0 ____ 1 ____ 1 _____ 0 ____ 0 ____ 0 _____ 0 _____ 1 __ Mar (t)

Scotty Lightning ___________ 2 ____ 0 ____ 0 _____0 ______ 1 ____ 1 ____ 1 ____ 0 ____ 0 _____ 0 ____ 0 ____ 1 _____ 0 _____ 0 __

___ Normal _________________2 ____ 1 ____ 2 _____ 1 ______ 1 ____ 1 ____ 0 ____ 1 ____ 1 _____ 1 ____ 3 ____ 1 _____ 1 _____ 1 __May,Jul 

Roger Smith ________________1 ____ 0 ____ 1 _____ 1 ______ 2 ____ 2 ____ 3 ____ 2 ____ 1 _____ 1 ____ 1 ____ 2 _____ 2 ____ 3__Jun,Aug,Nov

Deformation Zone __________0 ____ 0 ____ 2 _____ 0 ______1 ____ 1 ____ 1 ____ 0 ____ 0 _____ 1 ____ 1 ____ 0 _____0 _____ 0  

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EXTREME FORECAST STANDINGS

High score must go to either the extreme warm or cold forecast, or second most extreme, for a station to qualify.

So far this year, 74 locations out of 99 have qualified, 4 in Jan, 5 in Feb, 7 in March, 6 in April, 8 in May, June and July, 7 in August, 8 in September and October, and 5 in November.

Of those, 41 were awarded to warmest forecasts, 33 to coldest.

A loss in the standings represents a case where second most extreme forecast had the high score and the win for that month.

Normal can only win along with a forecaster. There have been nine shared wins (one by four and one by three) accounting for the excess of total wins (excl Normal). 

 

FORECASTER _______ Jan __Feb __Mar _ Apr _ May _Jun _ Jul _ Aug _Sep _ Oct_ Nov ___ TOTAL to date

Roger Smith _________ 2-1 __2-0 __ --- __1-0 __ 1-0 __2-0 __ --- _ 3-1 _3-0 _ 0-1 _ 1-0 __ 15-3

RodneyS ____________ ---- __--- __ ---- __--- __ 2-1 __1-0 __ 6-0 _ --- _1-0 _ 1-0 _ ---- __ 11-1

wxallannj ____________ ---- __--- __ --- __3-0 __ 2-0 __3-0 __ --- _ 1-0 _--- _ 1-0 _ ---- __ 10-0

DonSutherland1 _____ 2-0 __1-0 __ 2-0 __0-1 __ 2-0 __1-0 __ --- _ --- _1-0 _ 1-0 _ ---- __ 10-1

RJay _________________ --- __--- __ 2-0 __2-0 __ 1-0 __1-0 __ --- _ 1-0 _1-0 _ 1-0*_ --- ___9-0

___ Normal ___________--- __ --- __ 2-0 __--- __ 1-0 __--- __ 5-0 _ 1-0 _--- _ 0-0 _ --- ___ 9-0

so_whats_happening _--- __1-0 __ 2-0 __--- __ --- __ 1-0 __ ---- _ --- _3-0 _ --- _ ---- __ 7-0

wxdude64 ___________ --- __1-0 __ 2-0 __--- __ --- __--- __ ---- _ 1-0 _ --- _ --- _ 1-0 ___ 5-0

Tom __________________--- __--- __ --- __--- __ 1-0 __1-0 __ ---- _ --- _--- _ 3-0 _ ---- ___ 5-0

Deformation Zone ___ ---- __--- __ --- __--- __ --- __--- __ 1-0 _ 1-0 _ 1-0 _ 1-1 _ ---- ___ 4-1

BKViking _____________ ---- __--- __ --- __--- __ 1-0 __1-0 __ 0-1 _ --- _ 1-0 _ --- _ 1-0 ___ 4-1

Scotty Lightning _____ ---- __--- __ ---- __--- __--- __1-1 __ 1-0 _ --- _ 1-0 _ --- _ ---- ___ 3-1

hudsonvalley21 ______ ---- __--- __ --- __--- __ --- __ ---__ ---- _ --- _ --- _ --- _ 2-0 ___ 2-0

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* RJay also had two other near-win efforts in October tied or very close to tied with others but late penalty interfered. These are called "no decision" outings in this contest. 

** Note that for best forecast and extreme forecast awards, players in these current tables will be eligible after any first time forecasters are evaluated in November (seeing as one at least has entered -- meaning that if one of those new entrants wins then the field will be re-evaluated without that score involved).  

 
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Final Report on the Four Seasons Contest 2020-2021

 

___ Four Seasons contest updated standings ___

 

FORECASTER ____ SCORE WINTER 20-21 ___ PTS __  SPRING 21 _ PTS __  SUMMER 21 _PTS ___ AUTUMN 21 _PTS ___ TOTAL

DonSutherland1 _____ 730 + 1163 = 1893 _____ 10 _______1806 _____ 6 ______ 1672 ____ 4 _______ 1867 __ 7 ________ 27

RodneyS _____________ 616 + 1229 = 1845 ______ 7 _______ 1528 _____1 _______1804 ____ 7 _______ 1846 ___ 6 _______ 21

Tom _________________ 668 + 1033 = 1701 ______ 4 _______ 1841 ____ 10 ______ 1625 ____ 1 _______ 1769 ___ 5 _______ 20

wxallannj _____________668 + 1006 = 1674 ______3 _______ 1780 _____ 5 _______1812 ____10 _______ 1605 ___ 1 _______ 19

BKViking _____________ 668 + 1094 = 1762 ______5 _______ 1768 _____4 ______ 1734 ____ 6 _______ 1703 ___ 4 _______ 19

 

___ Consensus _______ 689 + 1088 = 1777 _____ 6 _______ 1774 _____ 4 _______ 1670 ____ 3 _______ 1714 ___ 4 _______ 17

 

wxdude64 ___________ 500 + 1075 = 1575 ______ 1 ________ 1835 _____7_______1676 ____ 5 _______ 1395 ___ 1 ________ 14

hudsonvalley21 ______ 716 + 1047 = 1763 ______ 6 _______ 1760 _____ 3 ______ 1658 ____ 3 _______ 1634 ___ 2 _______ 14

RJay _________________ 686 + 864 = 1550 _______ 1 _______ 1634 _____ 1 _______1555 ____ 1 _______ 1946 ___10 _______ 13

 

___ Normal ___________ 524 + 950 = 1474 ________1 ________1638 ______1 _______1698 ____ 5 _______ 1362 ___ 1 _______ 8

 

Roger Smith __________580 + 959 = 1539 ________ 1 _______ 1300 ______1 _______1650 ____ 2 _______ 1684 ___ 3 _______ 7

Scotty Lightning _____ 586 + 1020 = 1606 _______2 _______ 1684 _____ 1 _______ 1599 ____ 1 _______ 1374 ___ 1 _______ 5

so_whats_happening _ dnp + 928 = 928__(2/3)__ 1 _______ 1733 _____ 2 _______1593 ____ 1 _______ 1549 ___ 1 _______ 5

Deformation Zone ____ (not entered) _____________________ (not entered) ______1052 (2/3) 1 _______ 1601 ___ 1 _______ 2

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Winter scores are total of Dec 2020 and (Jan+Feb) 2021. 

Points _ 10 for high score, 7 for second, 6 for third, etc, and 1 point for all who enter at least 2/3.

(scores and points for consensus and Normal do not alter progressions of scores for forecasters).

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Congrats to DonSutherland 1 for winning the four seasons award in this contest year. RJay is our autumn champion

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