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1 hour ago, etudiant said:

No argument, but surely the responsibility for the integrity of the weather records falls on the NWS.

Imho, the Conservancy  in this instance is an innocent bystander, they have no dog in this fight. 

As an aside, the site is really smothered, there is a 70 foot or so tree just to the east, along with the sheltering shrubbery, which really surrounds the fenced in site proper.

I'd love to envision a control plot sited nearby without the vegetation. It could really help determine the impact of site overgrowth.

I don’t agree that the Conservancy is an “innocent bystander.” The NWS has no jurisdiction beyond the equipment. It cannot contract work crews to trim the trees. 

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1 hour ago, Cfa said:

These tweets are aggravating. KNYC needs to take a direct hit from an EF1 sometime between now and Sept.

Misleading as many NYC/NJ metro places have hit 90 5 or 6 times already counting today

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Holding steady at 96. Looking toward the Van Nest/Tremont micronet is which is 97.  That con ed plant is LGA minus the water. I always thought walking up Bronxdale to Morris Park was espically brutal, I see why now lol

 

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Tree pruning is a low priority for NYC. Maybe the NWS knew this all along. So they never really pushed the issue of trimming around the Central Park ASOS.

https://www.thecity.nyc/2020/7/13/21323732/budget-cuts-raise-fears-of-falling-tree-branches

Tree Pruning Budget Cuts Raise Fears of Falling Branches

BY CARSON KESSLER  JUL 13, 2020, 11:42PM EDT
 

The city’s canopy of more than 2.6 million street and park trees will have to wait for scheduled prunings due to new budget cuts — a move slammed by a former Parks Department commissioner as “foolish” and dangerous. 

The Fiscal 2021 Executive Plan includes a budget reduction of $7.2 million for tree pruning contracts, leaving about $1.5 million for the job. City trees are generally trimmed every seven to 10 years. 

Park advocates and government officials, pointing to past incidents where people were severely injured — or worse — by plummeting branches, sounded the alarm over the cuts.

“The problem with not pruning is if a limb falls from a tall tree, it can cause tremendous damage. It can kill people,” said Adrian Benepe, who served as Parks commissioner from 2002 to 2012.

“It’s a meaningless cut that could cause damage both to the trees and to people.”

After the city slashed tree-pruning funding in 2010, tree-related injury claims soared. By delaying pruning contracts, the city saved $1 million — but settlement costs neared $15 million, records show. 

“One bad tree limb fall wipes out all your savings,” said Benepe. “This saving is pennywise and pound foolish.”

During 2010, the city pruned less than 30,000 street trees — 50,000 fewer trees than the year before. Full funding for the Parks pruning program wasn’t restored until FY2013 when the 10-year pruning cycle was reinstated.

Claims for injuries caused by trees increased by 92% — from just under 400 claims to over 700 — during the period of reduced pruning and maintenance. In some community districts outside Manhattan claims increased by 590%, according to a 2015 ClaimStat report by City Comptroller Scott Stringer.

In 2015, Stringer told the City Council that there is a direct correlation between million-dollar legal claims and the amount of money the city allocates for tree pruning each year.

 

 
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Second earliest 95° for Burlington, VT behind last year.

And just like that, another record has fallen. Burlington just hit 95 degrees breaking the previous record of 94 degrees set in 1925. 

 

First/Last Summary for Burlington Area, VT (ThreadEx)
Each section contains date and year of occurrence, value on that date.
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Year
First
Value
Last
Value
Difference
2020 05-27 (2020) 95 07-19 (2020) 95 52
2017 06-11 (2017) 95 06-11 (2017) 95 0
1988 06-15 (1988) 97 08-03 (1988) 97 48
1994 06-17 (1994) 96 06-18 (1994) 97 0
1995 06-19 (1995) 100 07-14 (1995) 100 24
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3 hours ago, bluewave said:

Tree pruning is a low priority for NYC. Maybe the NWS knew this all along. So they never really pushed the issue of trimming around the Central Park ASOS.

https://www.thecity.nyc/2020/7/13/21323732/budget-cuts-raise-fears-of-falling-tree-branches

Tree Pruning Budget Cuts Raise Fears of Falling Branches

BY CARSON KESSLER  JUL 13, 2020, 11:42PM EDT
 

The city’s canopy of more than 2.6 million street and park trees will have to wait for scheduled prunings due to new budget cuts — a move slammed by a former Parks Department commissioner as “foolish” and dangerous. 

The Fiscal 2021 Executive Plan includes a budget reduction of $7.2 million for tree pruning contracts, leaving about $1.5 million for the job. City trees are generally trimmed every seven to 10 years. 

Park advocates and government officials, pointing to past incidents where people were severely injured — or worse — by plummeting branches, sounded the alarm over the cuts.

“The problem with not pruning is if a limb falls from a tall tree, it can cause tremendous damage. It can kill people,” said Adrian Benepe, who served as Parks commissioner from 2002 to 2012.

“It’s a meaningless cut that could cause damage both to the trees and to people.”

After the city slashed tree-pruning funding in 2010, tree-related injury claims soared. By delaying pruning contracts, the city saved $1 million — but settlement costs neared $15 million, records show. 

“One bad tree limb fall wipes out all your savings,” said Benepe. “This saving is pennywise and pound foolish.”

During 2010, the city pruned less than 30,000 street trees — 50,000 fewer trees than the year before. Full funding for the Parks pruning program wasn’t restored until FY2013 when the 10-year pruning cycle was reinstated.

Claims for injuries caused by trees increased by 92% — from just under 400 claims to over 700 — during the period of reduced pruning and maintenance. In some community districts outside Manhattan claims increased by 590%, according to a 2015 ClaimStat report by City Comptroller Scott Stringer.

In 2015, Stringer told the City Council that there is a direct correlation between million-dollar legal claims and the amount of money the city allocates for tree pruning each year.

 

 

The Park is maintained by the Central Park Conservancy which has its own budgets and employees. (I have a coworker who worked as a horticulturist there and insists it’s incredibly corrupt). 
Meanwhile the sea breeze just started cranking at Jones Beach on one of the earliest full capacity crowds (air show not included) I have seen. Just mayhem here life guarding. At least the temp has dropped significantly. 

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1 hour ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

The Park is maintained by the Central Park Conservancy which has its own budgets and employees. (I have a coworker who worked as a horticulturist there and insists it’s incredibly corrupt). 
Meanwhile the sea breeze just started cranking at Jones Beach on one of the earliest full capacity crowds (air show not included) I have seen. Just mayhem here life guarding. At least the temp has dropped significantly. 

The Park Conservancy cut their budget back in 2017.  Now their share of funding from NYC was also reduced So they are running a deficit. As you know, tree maintenance is expensive. My area has spent quite a bit of money on tree trimming and removal with all the wind damage in recent years. Probably the most damaging decade on record for trees around our area. The tree crews are true professionals. Removing damaged trees close to houses is a real art form. 

https://ilovetheupperwestside.com/central-park-conservancy-faces-10-million-deficit-launches-fundraiser/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-23/nyc-s-central-park-conservancy-cuts-30-jobs-as-it-trims-spending

 

 

 

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No topics but fwiw... noted on what I call modest svr wx events of late May/early June.  

Heavy showers/thunderstorms seem in store for parts of NJ/se NYS maybe NYC 4-10P Monday (PW 1.5") , possibly something predawn Tue, then it should light up 1130A-130P Tuesday. PW up to 1.8" Tuesday. . Modeling after Tue suggests more Wed, and possibly FRI?  This will probably further assist alleviating dryness in parts of our area, presuming 1-5" rain occurs in parts of the subforum by sunrise Saturday the 12th.  Could  be iso svr via wet microburst potential Tuesday but winds aloft are fairly weak with TT marginal ~47-48. 

I did  note the tropical rains trying to involve the northeast around 280-340 hours (~19th), and a couple of cycles of this.    We'll see if this can hold as we close in  on D7 (144 hrs) - not worth losing sleep over.

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7 minutes ago, wdrag said:

No topics but fwiw... noted on what I call modest svr wx events of late May/early June.  

Heavy showers/thunderstorms seem in store for parts of NJ/se NYS maybe NYC 4-10P Monday (PW 1.5") , possibly something predawn Tue, then it should light up 1130A-130P Tuesday. PW up to 1.8" Tuesday. . Modeling after Tue suggests more Wed, and possibly FRI?  This will probably further assist alleviating dryness in parts of our area, presuming 1-5" rain occurs in parts of the subforum by sunrise Saturday the 12th.  Could  be iso svr via wet microburst potential Tuesday but winds aloft are fairly weak with TT marginal ~47-48. 

I did  note the tropical rains trying to involve the northeast around 280-340 hours (~19th), and a couple of cycles of this.    We'll see if this can hold as we close in  on D7 (144 hrs) - not worth losing sleep over.

PWATs are decent. Maybe some pulsers. Vertical profiles are warm for tomorrow, shear is not too impressive. But you never know what pops up. Locally here we missed out on the action on Friday, looking for something tomorrow to give things a drink.

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On 6/5/2021 at 2:25 PM, bluewave said:

August 2014 was the most extreme rainfall event for our area with 13.25 at ISP.  2nd place would be the mid-August 2011 when Long Beach picked up 10 to 11. There may have been other events which were also close to 10 that fell between the major recording stations.

 

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I remember August 2011 well, that rain would never stop falling!  And then we had Irene on top of that!  We came close to October 2005 rainfall totals that month!

 

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46 minutes ago, bluewave said:

The Park Conservancy cut their budget back in 2017.  Now their share of funding from NYC was also reduced So they are running a deficit. As you know, tree maintenance is expensive. My area has spent quite a bit of money on tree trimming and removal with all the wind damage in recent years. Probably the most damaging decade on record for trees around our area. The tree crews are true professionals. Removing damaged trees close to houses is a real art form. 

https://ilovetheupperwestside.com/central-park-conservancy-faces-10-million-deficit-launches-fundraiser/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-23/nyc-s-central-park-conservancy-cuts-30-jobs-as-it-trims-spending

 

 

 

We hit 93 here in SW Nassau....did JFK make it to 90?  Our high was at 1:40 PM.....this was our hottest day of the year so far.

 

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