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NNE Warm Season Thread 2021


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VERMONT

...Addison County...
  1 NE South Lincoln      5.1   700 AM  4/22  Co-Op Observer
  2 NE Monkton            3.5   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  Middlebury              3.0   923 AM  4/22  Public
  Orwell                  2.5   640 PM  4/21  Public
  Vergennes               2.2   515 AM  4/22  Co-Op Observer

...Caledonia County...
  Hardwick                8.0   806 AM  4/22  Public
  Sheffield               7.0   600 AM  4/22  At 1700 ft elevation.
  Sutton                  5.7   755 AM  4/22  Co-Op Observer
  2 S Wheelock            5.2   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  1 W Lyndonville         4.5   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  2 NW Danville           4.5   600 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  2 WNW Wells River       4.3   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  Walden                  4.0   430 PM  4/21  At 2000 ft elevation.
  Newark                  3.0   830 AM  4/21  Public
  N Danville              3.0   740 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  4 WSW Groton            2.3   600 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  Groton                  2.0   700 AM  4/22  Public

...Chittenden County...
  1 E Nashville           7.4   645 AM  4/22  Co-Op Observer
  1 E Huntington          6.5   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  4 NNE Underhill         6.1   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  5 NNE Underhill         6.0   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  1 SSE Jericho Center    5.8   855 AM  4/22  Public
  2 NW Westford           5.4   624 AM  4/22  NWS Employee
  North Underhill         5.0   700 AM  4/22  Co-Op Observer
  St. George              4.8   555 PM  4/21  At 980 ft elevation.
  1 S Essex Center        4.2   830 AM  4/22  NWS Employee
  1 SSW Underhill         4.0   700 AM  4/22  Public
  2 SW Milton             3.9   650 PM  4/21  NWS Employee
  3 SSW South Burlingt    3.0   650 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  1 NNE Hinesburg         3.0   507 PM  4/21  Trained Spotter
  1 NE South Burlingto    2.9   800 AM  4/22  NWS Office
  Charlotte               2.5   400 PM  4/21  Co-Op Observer
  1 SW Milton             2.5   439 PM  4/21  NWS Employee
  4 ESE Chimney Corner    2.0   400 PM  4/21  Public
  Colchester              1.5   246 PM  4/21  Broadcast Media
  WSW Williston           0.5   700 AM  4/21  CoCoRaHS

...Essex County...
  Island Pond             3.5   930 AM  4/22  Co-Op Observer
  1 S East Haven          3.1   700 AM  4/22  Co-Op Observer
  Averill                 3.1   800 AM  4/22  Co-Op Observer
  4 WNW Maidstone         3.0  1015 PM  4/21  Public
  2 NNW Lunenburg         2.0   600 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  1 NW Granby             0.5   755 AM  4/21  CoCoRaHS

...Franklin County...
  St. Albans              5.3   812 AM  4/22  Public
  Georgia Center          4.5   915 PM  4/21  Public
  Enosburg Falls          4.4   449 AM  4/22  Co-Op Observer
  3 SW Sheldon            4.0   630 PM  4/21  Public
  ESE Fairfax             3.7   900 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  1 NNE Swanton           3.0   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS

...Grand Isle County...
  Alburgh                 2.5   924 AM  4/22  Public

...Lamoille County...
  2 N Johnson             5.5   700 AM  4/22  Co-Op Observer
  SW Stowe                4.1   730 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  Belvidere Center        4.0  1200 AM  4/22  Public
  1 NW Stowe              3.7   800 PM  4/21  Public
  3 N Smugglers Notch     3.3   730 AM  4/22  Co-Op Observer
  1 SSE Smugglers Notc    3.0   847 AM  4/21  Public
  Morrisville             2.7   815 PM  4/21  Public

...Orange County...
  Williamstown            3.0   832 AM  4/22  Public
  2 E Corinth Corners     2.6   700 AM  4/22  Co-Op Observer
  2 NNW Bradford          2.4   800 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  Fairlee                 1.5   700 PM  4/21  Public

...Orleans County...
  2 NNW Greensboro        8.8   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  4 NNE Greensboro        8.2   730 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  3 ENE Barton            7.1   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  2 NNE East Charlesto    5.0   715 AM  4/22  Public
  2 WSW Newport           4.4   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  1 NE Newport            3.6   700 AM  4/22  Co-Op Observer
  2 W Derby Line          3.5   710 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  1 WNW Westfield         3.5   645 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  Albany                  3.4   831 AM  4/21  Public
  1 NE East Craftsbury    3.4   800 AM  4/21  CoCoRaHS

...Rutland County...
  1 WNW Middletown Spr    3.3   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  Forest Dale             2.5   855 PM  4/21  Public
  4 E Poultney            2.3   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  Danby                   2.0   700 AM  4/22  Public
  2 SSE Pittsford         2.0   530 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  1 SSE West Rutland      1.8   800 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  1 N Rutland             1.4   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  Pawlet                  1.0   930 PM  4/21  Public
  3 SSW Wallingford       0.7   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS

...Washington County...
  2 SE Waitsfield         7.0   700 AM  4/22  Co-Op Observer
  4 ENE Cabot             7.0   900 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  3 NNW Woodbury          6.8   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  3 NW Waterbury          6.8   600 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  1 NNW Woodbury          6.6   800 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  2 E Cabot               6.5   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  1 SW East Barre         5.2   600 AM  4/22  NWS Employee
  1 N Cabot               5.0   717 AM  4/22  At 1100 ft elevation.
  2 N Calais              5.0   700 AM  4/22  Trained Spotter
  1 NW Calais             5.0   922 AM  4/22  At 1050 ft elevation.
  2 SW East Calais        5.0   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  2 W Worcester           4.8   700 AM  4/22  Co-Op Observer
  4 WNW Waitsfield        4.8   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  1 ESE Plainfield        4.5   700 AM  4/22  Co-Op Observer
  4 WNW Berlin            4.3   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  Calais                  3.5   720 PM  4/21  Public
  Marshfield              3.5   900 PM  4/21  Public
  Montpelier              2.8   710 PM  4/21  Public
  2 N Northfield          2.7   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  1 NNE Northfield        1.0   712 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  3 W Putnamville         1.0   143 PM  4/21  Public

...Windsor County...
  2 NE Rochester          2.6   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  3 S Ludlow              1.5   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  NE Rochester            1.4   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  3 N Pomfret             1.3   700 AM  4/22  CoCoRaHS
  1 E Woodstock           1.0   800 AM  4/22  Co-Op Observer
  2 W South Royalton      0.8   915 PM  4/21  Public
  1 SW Hartland           0.6   800 PM  4/21  CoCoRaHS
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12 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said:

Cold at noon in VT

25 F at Randolph 

Was wondering if you were around for this squall.  I was up by the Sunny Spruce Quad and then coming back through the Plaza it is very close to white-out conditions.

It's like the sky is falling. Still laugh at the heated pavers just looking wet when snow is falling at like 1/16th of a mile visibility or even less at like 24F.  

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13 minutes ago, backedgeapproaching said:

Pretty solid totals up north.  1.5" vaporized even under cloudy skies and 31.F max temp so far.

One of the good things about late snowfall is that my driveway is clear without having to shovel, even the plow piles at the end.  It's currently 28.4°/21.8°

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26 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Was wondering if you were around for this squall.  I was up by the Sunny Spruce Quad and then coming back through the Plaza it is very close to white-out conditions.

It's like the sky is falling. Still laugh at the heated pavers just looking wet when snow is falling at like 1/16th of a mile visibility or even less at like 24F.  

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I wish . Had to leave at noon to work at 4. 
 

Off on squalls / snow flurries all the way .

Drove thru Lebanon,NH and it was 30F w snow shwr 1245 on April 22. Nice airmass

Highlands SE of Lebanon by exit 14 has a good 3” or so caked to everything . 27F

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The WMUR forecast just popped up on my facebook feed.  I have not paid any attention to the weather past the weekend storm coming up but it looks like warmer weather is on the way.  They have a 68, 77 and 81 for the end of next week.  I think it's pretty stupid to post exact air temperatures many days away, especially with their viewing area being a state that lies north to south.  

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45 minutes ago, wxeyeNH said:

The WMUR forecast just popped up on my facebook feed.  I have not paid any attention to the weather past the weekend storm coming up but it looks like warmer weather is on the way.  They have a 68, 77 and 81 for the end of next week.  I think it's pretty stupid to post exact air temperatures many days away, especially with their viewing area being a state that lies north to south.  

The numbers look about right Tue-Thu for the lower interior. Obviously with elevation you can knock a few degrees off of that for yby.

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5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

We skin?

Only human powered turns out there now in this stretch of the Spine.  Have Smuggs/Stowe/Bolton/Sugarbush North/MRG trail networks fully available to uphill traffic nearby.  The lower elevations with less wind appear to have much much better turning conditions.

 

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Event totals: 8.4” Snow/0.76” L.E.

 

We’ve had some additional snow showers this evening, but the above totals should be it for this storm unless the activity picks up.

 

Details from the 6:00 P.M. Waterbury observations:

New Snow: 1.6 inches

New Liquid: 0.10 inches

Snow/Water Ratio: 16.0

Snow Density: 6.3% H2O

Temperature: 34.9 F

Sky: Cloudy

Snow at the stake: 4.0 inches

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Since daylight lingers so long into the evening now, I stopped off at Bolton on the way home from work yesterday for a ski tour.  I hadn’t had the time to get out on Wednesday, but it kept snowing much of the day on Thursday as well, so this gave me the chance to see how all the snow had accumulated from this most recent April storm.  Valley temperatures had edged a bit above freezing in the afternoon, but on the mountain the temperatures were down in the 20s F.

Accumulations from this storm went right down to the lowest valleys, and even the broad, low valleys down near sea level like the Champlain Valley had accumulations that stuck around.  At the base of the Bolton Valley Access Road at ~340’ there were a couple inches of accumulation, and naturally, the depths just went up from there.  The wind had kicked up by yesterday afternoon on the back side of the system, and that really pushed the snow around a lot, but using the typical calmer, unaffected spots, here’s the accumulations profile I observed on yesterday’s outing:

340’: 2”

500’: 2-3”

1,000’: 3-4”

1,500’: 5-6”

2,000’: 8-10”

2,500’: 10-12”

3,000’: ~12”

The snow from this storm was certainly not as dense as what last week’s storm delivered, but the initial accumulations were certainly substantial enough to set up a good base, and then in typical Northern Greens style, the upslope came in after to boost the depth and polish things off.  Overall, the snow put down by this storm cycle was right side up, just as PF noted in his post.  We picked up rough ¾” of liquid equivalent at our site, and I’d say they’d had at least 1” of liquid in the snow on the mountain.  So, while not the 2”+ of liquid that some areas saw in the last storm, this snow offered plenty of substance for solid turns on most terrain, and it was easily bottomless on moderate-angle pitches.  There was also still some snow left from the previous storm in spots, so that bolstered things up a bit.

Anyway, turns were great with the right-side-up deposition, with midwinter consistency all the way down to the Village areas at ~2,000’ yesterday afternoon.  I didn’t tour down to 1,500’, but even there at the base of Timberline the snow was still powder as of early evening.  A few shots from yesterday’s tour:

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14 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Mother Nature loves her averages.  She'll try to get to them one way or another, or at least close the gap towards them.

Right on point, this latest storm pushed our site past 160” of snow on the season, ensuring at least an average result for that parameter.  Your comment follows up what we were saying back at the beginning of March when there were still two months of winter to go.

Per our conversation in the thread the other day, winter in the mountains of NNE is generally November through April, with October and May as fringe months, so the annual snowfall averages actually represent snowfall spread out over that six to eight-month period.  People can try to shove everything into just a few months if they want, but Mother Nature doesn’t care.  Folks will often write off the early and late snows as some sort of “stat padding”, but that doesn’t really make any sense in the context of actual record keeping.  It’s not as if the recent skiing during these spring storm cycles has been on some sort of phantom snow that doesn’t actually exist; the only “padding” going on is these dense April snows keeping our skis off the ground.

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