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31 minutes ago, BGM Blizzard said:

I'll have to try and take some additional measurements. Had to clear a spot and use a measurement tape cause yard stick was too short so might not be exact and compaction not uniform everywhere.

I have a 4 foot “yard” stick and it’s amazing to think it would be almost completely buried at your place. 

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1 minute ago, Ericjcrash said:

Wow. Unreal outside can't open my door has to be near 30" of depth, I don't have a yardstick. 3" an hour stuff falling

Nice!  You're going to beat me by a few getting under that band a little longer.  No complaints here though with what will end up being 2'+

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1 hour ago, CNY_WX said:

I’m almost embarrassed to post this but I measured 3.4 inches this morning on 0.36 LE.  A little disappointing, I would have been happy with 4, hoping for 6.  The ratio was just about 10:1 which is a little low considering the temperatures. Maybe as Matt (I think) said last night the flakes were being ripped apart which made for a denser snow. 

I had 3.5"...barely an hour of work for BGM. ;)

I also had 0.45" liquid...which seems off.  Although maybe not too much as some local areas seemed to be around 10:1 ratio, which for a snowstorm with temps in the teens is maybe a bit unusual?  Granted, we didnt have much UVV here and aggregate size was on the small size all storm.

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22 minutes ago, tim123 said:

No I said 2 to 5 

To keep our petty battle going, you did say that at some point, but then you went on to say

11 hours ago, tim123 said:

Think roc area ends up in the 4 to 8 inch range come tomorrow afternoon.

You also, threw around these statements yesterday.

"Noticed meso models give roc 6 to 8 inches with lake effect"

"Gives roc 6 inches"

"6 in roc more upside spread"

"Gived roc over 7 inches"

"Ukmet hammers roc with the lake snow"

 

So if you would have just stuck with your first call, I'd say you did alright.  But you hyped and hyped and here we are, with 2 inches.  Sorry dude, it is what it is.
 

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Just crazy totals.

https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&product=PNS&issuedby=BGM

...New York...

...Broome County...
2 SW Nws Binghamton          41.0 in   0640 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
Vestal                       41.0 in   0730 AM 12/17   Public
2 S Binghamton               41.0 in   0800 AM 12/17   Public
Endicott                     40.5 in   0550 AM 12/17   Trained Spotter
2 E Vestal                   40.2 in   0700 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
2 SW Vestal Center           40.0 in   0730 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
Nws Binghamton               39.6 in   0700 AM 12/17   Official NWS Obs
West Corners                 39.5 in   0649 AM 12/17   Public
Endwell                      37.0 in   0622 AM 12/17   Public
Chenango Bridge              36.0 in   0742 AM 12/17   Public
2 SSE Vestal Center          35.0 in   0747 AM 12/17   Public
Binghamton                   30.5 in   0715 AM 12/17   Public
Lisle                        30.0 in   0626 AM 12/17   Public
Port Dickinson               30.0 in   0703 AM 12/17   Public
Nanticoke                    29.0 in   0636 AM 12/17   Public
2 NNW Port Crane             28.6 in   0615 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
Kirkwood                     24.0 in   0625 AM 12/17   Public
2 ENE Lisle                  23.0 in   0721 AM 12/17   Public

 

...Tioga County...
2 SE Newark Valley           44.0 in   0700 AM 12/17   Public
Owego                        40.0 in   0815 AM 12/17   Public
1 N Foster                   38.0 in   0630 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
Tioga Terrace                36.0 in   0600 AM 12/17   Public
Waverly                      32.0 in   0748 AM 12/17   Public
Lockwood                     26.0 in   0631 AM 12/17   Public
Berkshire                    25.0 in   0730 AM 12/17   Trained Spotter
...Pennsylvania...

...Bradford County...
Litchfield                   43.0 in   0800 AM 12/17   Trained Spotter
Troy                         36.0 in   0600 AM 12/17   Public
Sayre                        32.0 in   0647 AM 12/17   Public
1 S Sayre                    31.0 in   0545 AM 12/17   Public
Ridgebury                    31.0 in   0647 AM 12/17   Public
Towanda                      30.0 in   0626 AM 12/17   Public
 

 

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2 minutes ago, DeltaT13 said:

To keep our petty battle going, you did say that at some point, but then you went on to say

You also, threw around these statements yesterday.

"Noticed meso models give roc 6 to 8 inches with lake effect"

"Gives roc 6 inches"

"6 in roc more upside spread"

"Gived roc over 7 inches"

"Ukmet hammers roc with the lake snow"

 

So if you would have just stuck with your first call, I'd say you did alright.  But you hyped and hyped and here we are, with 2 inches.  Sorry dude, it is what it is.
 

How was such a weak low pressure system able to generate these kind of totals. It was also quick moving. I think it topped out at like 997 MB. I'm kind of confused right now.

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8 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Just crazy totals.

https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&product=PNS&issuedby=BGM


...New York...

...Broome County...
2 SW Nws Binghamton          41.0 in   0640 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
Vestal                       41.0 in   0730 AM 12/17   Public
2 S Binghamton               41.0 in   0800 AM 12/17   Public
Endicott                     40.5 in   0550 AM 12/17   Trained Spotter
2 E Vestal                   40.2 in   0700 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
2 SW Vestal Center           40.0 in   0730 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
Nws Binghamton               39.6 in   0700 AM 12/17   Official NWS Obs
West Corners                 39.5 in   0649 AM 12/17   Public
Endwell                      37.0 in   0622 AM 12/17   Public
Chenango Bridge              36.0 in   0742 AM 12/17   Public
2 SSE Vestal Center          35.0 in   0747 AM 12/17   Public
Binghamton                   30.5 in   0715 AM 12/17   Public
Lisle                        30.0 in   0626 AM 12/17   Public
Port Dickinson               30.0 in   0703 AM 12/17   Public
Nanticoke                    29.0 in   0636 AM 12/17   Public
2 NNW Port Crane             28.6 in   0615 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
Kirkwood                     24.0 in   0625 AM 12/17   Public
2 ENE Lisle                  23.0 in   0721 AM 12/17   Public

 


...Tioga County...
2 SE Newark Valley           44.0 in   0700 AM 12/17   Public
Owego                        40.0 in   0815 AM 12/17   Public
1 N Foster                   38.0 in   0630 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
Tioga Terrace                36.0 in   0600 AM 12/17   Public
Waverly                      32.0 in   0748 AM 12/17   Public
Lockwood                     26.0 in   0631 AM 12/17   Public
Berkshire                    25.0 in   0730 AM 12/17   Trained Spotter

...Pennsylvania...

...Bradford County...
Litchfield                   43.0 in   0800 AM 12/17   Trained Spotter
Troy                         36.0 in   0600 AM 12/17   Public
Sayre                        32.0 in   0647 AM 12/17   Public
1 S Sayre                    31.0 in   0545 AM 12/17   Public
Ridgebury                    31.0 in   0647 AM 12/17   Public
Towanda                      30.0 in   0626 AM 12/17   Public
 

 

That 44.0 in Newark Valley is definitely legit. I'm 1 mile east of there.

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Just given the light nature of the snow considering the ~30" depth I'd confidently say there was 36" here. That weenie band set up shop(still at least an inch an hour) and just sat here. Wish I had a yard stick. Absolutely epic storm and I can only imagine what BGM looks like. Snow growth wasn't ideal until 2 am as well so could've been better.

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