WinterWxLuvr Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 18 minutes ago, lester said: This may be the worst forecast map I've ever seen There’s a chance he knows more than you 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, Mshaffer526 said: LOL Poor Ji. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthArlington101 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, WesternFringe said: What does the purple shading denote? Can't see the legend in that screenshot. Significant ice is what he's going for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraff Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Yeoman said: What does spoons have to say? Get the fork outta here!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, ers-wxman1 said: Ok I’ve had just about enough posting in this place. No wonder you can’t retain any real meteorologists here. Again we all appreciate your excellent thoughts but to use the NAM as gospel 48 hours out isn't the best idea. Please keep posting and ignore the background noise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDweatherman Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Interesting hr 53 & 54 sounding where the mix line runs right along 95. Attached is the sounding for Baltimore. Small warm nose at the 850/900 level, not terribly difficult to overcome. By 54, Baltimore folks could likely be isothermal with good rates and stack up a few inches in the ensuing frames. PS This is if we want to analyze the 3k at face value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltosquid Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, ers-wxman1 said: Ok I’ve had just about enough posting in this place. No wonder you can’t retain any real meteorologists here. That's what happens when you put weenies through a winter like last year's... very hard for some to stay disciplined and accept expert analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Really wont be able to grasp the effect of the high unti about 3-6 hours pre event then during onset to completion it’s in situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 3k NAM has 2.34" of liquid here. All snow. And still snowing at h60. So, I for one do not characterize this run as a disaster. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osfan24 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, wxtrix said: you must be a noob. Not really. Actually been around here for awhile. Never heard his name mentioned. On another note, I had no idea cranky was done tweeting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ers-wxman1 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, WinterWxLuvr said: Take your ball and go home? I held back on posting this but I distinctly remember the progression here. You once went big on a storm and busted. Ever since you have poor mouthed every chance that we’ve had. And have busted low in nearly every one of those. Now you’re mad because people don’t like it. People might not like me posting this but it’s the truth. You obviously know more than most. You’re a pro after all. Maybe just give us what you see and why. Lose the absolute certainty of it all. You need to question why you’re getting the responses that you’re getting. This is ridiculousness! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, baltosquid said: That's what happens when you put weenies through a winter like last year's... very hard for some to stay disciplined and accept expert analysis. to be fair, the nam at long range shouldn't be expertly analyzed anyways. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, ers-wxman1 said: Ok I’ve had just about enough posting in this place. No wonder you can’t retain any real meteorologists here. Just for your information JI is a real meteorologist. In fact if you put a gun to my head and asked who is better him or Wes i may have to go with JI. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, osfan24 said: Not really. Actually been around here for awhile. Never heard his name mentioned. On another note, I had no idea cranky was done tweeting. forky is a red tagger from NY. very well known on the forums for those who go back a long ways. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, mappy said: forky is a red tagger from NY. very well known on the forums for those who go back a long ways. Well known for sure. Just not in the way most want to be known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltosquid Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, mappy said: to be fair, the nam at long range shouldn't be expertly analyzed anyways. Oh I don't think you actually said anything to really gripe about but I do think overall there's a lot of grumbling from many after last winter's disaster; more what I'm getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanatos_I_Am Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, osfan24 said: Not really. Actually been around here for awhile. Never heard his name mentioned. On another note, I had no idea cranky was done tweeting. Cranky was such a great follow on Twitter. Could make any boring day interesting meteorologically. You ever hear why he’s stopped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, ravensrule said: Well known for sure. Just not in the way most want to be known. he does seem to know his meteorology at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ers-wxman1 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, WinterWxLuvr said: 5 minutes ago, ravensrule said: Again we all appreciate your excellent thoughts but to use the NAM as gospel 48 hours out isn't the best idea. Please keep posting and ignore the background noise. It’s not gospel, it’s indicative of the evolution of the pattern. The model is not worthless beyond 48 hours. I happen to work with the hard working employees that spend millions to make these models run year round, that dedicate their lives to making NWP better and people just trash them like it’s a wind up toy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, mappy said: he does seem to know his meteorology at least. Lol. There is no arguing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, baltosquid said: Oh I don't think you actually said anything to really gripe about but I do think overall there's a lot of grumbling from many after last winter's disaster; more what I'm getting at. No, I don't think anyone said anything worth griping over. Its the NAM. But I totally get everyone is on edge and wants snow. Last winter was horrible for everyone. Some are a little more testy than others. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltosquid Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Anyway, about new data, ICON took a jump East and is now putting the low out of the bay. A bit better but still some heavy rain after the initial snow so far. No backend frames yet. Not significant temperature change at the surface from what I can see, maybe a slight tick warmer. Don't have higher level stuff on TT. Edit: Nothing on the backend for anyone. Anomalously poor showing for snow in the NW compared to other models today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, ers-wxman1 said: It’s not gospel, it’s indicative of the evolution of the pattern. The model is not worthless beyond 48 hours. I happen to work with the hard working employees that spend millions to make these models run year round, that dedicate their lives to making NWP better and people just trash them like it’s a wind up toy. I may be wrong here but i thought the NAM hasn't been updated since 2017 and is being retired in the next 3 or 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 My public apologies to @ers-wxman1. My post was out of line, shouldn’t have been made, and any comments I had should have been made in private. I’m sorry for the post and have communicated to him that we value his contributions. 8 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osfan24 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Thanatos_I_Am said: Cranky was such a great follow on Twitter. Could make any boring day interesting meteorologically. You ever hear why he’s stopped? No idea. He was incredibly detailed. What he did had to be crazy time-consuming, so maybe he just stopped because of the time involved when he obviously wasn't making money off of it. Or maybe he got tired of the critics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, ravensrule said: Just for your information JI is a real meteorologist. In fact if you put a gun to my head and asked who is better him or Wes i may have to go with JI. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Hey, at least we have the lowest sun angle of the year we're working with. We wouldn't need to read 650 posts about March sun. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx's Thanks Giving Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, nj2va said: Hey, at least we have the lowest sun angle of the year we're working with. We wouldn't need to read 650 posts about March sun. I wonder how much that influences outcomes or is it more just a matter of day versus night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 rgem looks like a hold. maybe even slightly better than 12z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, Yeoman said: What does spoons have to say? worst couple ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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