WxWatcher007 Posted November 13, 2020 Discuss. Another potentially significant system in the blazing hot Caribbean. Tropical Weather Outlook NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL 700 PM EST Thu Nov 12 2020 For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico: The National Hurricane Center is issuing advisories on Tropical Storm Eta, located near the coast of the southeast U.S., and on Tropical Storm Theta, located over the eastern Atlantic. 1. A tropical wave located over the central Caribbean Sea continues to produce a large area of showers and thunderstorms. While this system has changed little in organization this evening, a tropical depression will likely form within the next couple of days as it moves slowly westward over the central and western Caribbean Sea. Interests in Honduras and Nicaragua should closely monitor the progress of this system. Regardless of development, this disturbance is expected to bring heavy rainfall along with possible flash flooding to portions of Hispaniola over the next day or so. For more detailed information, refer to products issued by your local weather office. * Formation chance through 48 hours...high...80 percent. * Formation chance through 5 days...high...90 percent. Forecaster Papin/Cangialosi 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CheeselandSkies Posted November 13, 2020 Nothing to see here...just the Caribbean deciding to act like the WPAC in friggin' November... Remember when 2020 was meh, kind of a busy season but there wasn't enough ACE? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cptcatz Posted November 13, 2020 27 minutes ago, CheeselandSkies said: Nothing to see here...just the Caribbean deciding to act like the WPAC in friggin' November... Remember when 2020 was meh, kind of a busy season but there wasn't enough ACE? 3 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WxWatcher007 Posted November 13, 2020 The western Caribbean was ready to explode with the absurd amount of TCHP and a Nina reducing shear. The late October and early November burst has been very impressive. Even now... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSUgulfcoaster Posted November 13, 2020 Atlantic looking like a Frat house out there right now. Theta Eta Iota, Atlantic University chapter, is throwing an end of the year house party in the Atlantic. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hlcater Posted November 13, 2020 Looking at the environment present over the W carib at the time 98L is moving through, I'm not really seeing any reason that this shouldn't become a formidable hurricane. Especially seeing as the overall environment is as good or better than Eta's. With consensus 850-200 shear being near or below 15kts for the next 4-5 days. TCHP isn't as nuclear as it was earlier in the season, but with surface temps ~29C, shouldn't provide much of an issue. I don't even need to bring up the 200mb pattern in the Caribbean this year, because you already know it's just stellar. Really the only thing models are consistent with that may be a limiting factor here is some mid level shear maximized ~500mb that gets up to 15-20kts at times, but even then, if that's the only problem, shouldn't really inhibit intensification. Greek names have been carrying this year and 98L looks to be no different. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cptcatz Posted November 13, 2020 Gotta think we're getting Iota at the 10am update Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlizzardNole Posted November 13, 2020 Euro has almost the same track as Eta burying itself into Nicaragua after landfall near Puerto Cabezas; GFS scrapes it along the north coast of Honduras which brings back chilling memories of Hurricane Mitch. Oh man those poor people down there. https://www.windy.com/?2020-11-16-12,16.245,-86.937,6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windspeed Posted November 13, 2020 This looks straight up depressing for Nicaragua even if it were to slip NW. That's going to be another 72 hrs of floods and mudslides over areas already digging out of the aftermath of Eta. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WxWatcher007 Posted November 13, 2020 Tropical Depression Thirty-One Discussion Number 1 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL312020 1100 AM EDT Fri Nov 13 2020 Deep convection associated with the area of low pressure over the central Caribbean Sea has increased and become more concentrated since yesterday. One-minute GOES-16 visible satellite imagery shows that the circulation has also become better defined, with a westerly component seen in the low-cloud motion near the southwestern edge of the primary convective mass. Subjective Dvorak intensity estimates from both TAFB and SAB are T2.0, indicating that the convection has become sufficiently organized for the system to be classified as a tropical depression. The initial wind speed is set at 30 kt, in line with the Dvorak classifications. Environmental conditions of low vertical wind shear, warm sea surface temperatures, and a moist atmosphere favor intensification over the next few days. Given the current broad and sprawling structure of the system, strengthening may begin as gradual today, but once an inner core organizes, steady-to-rapid strengthening appears likely. While the SHIPS rapid intensification index does not show very high chances of rapid strengthening for any one 24-h period over the next few days, it does indicate a 50/50 chance (nearly 10 times the climatological mean) of a 65-kt increase in wind speed over the next 72 hours. As a result, the NHC forecast calls for significant strengthening during the 24 to 72 hour time period, and the system could approach the coast of Central America as a major hurricane in a few days. The NHC track forecast at days 4 and 5 shows the system weakening over land, however some of the track guidance keeps the system just off the coast on Honduras at that time. If a more northern track occurs, the system could be stronger at 96 and 120 h if it remains over water. The depression is moving west-southwestward at about 6 kt. A strong mid-level ridge that lies over Florida and the western Atlantic should steer the cyclone west-southwestward during the next 12 to 24 hours. After that time, the ridge is forecast to begin sliding eastward, and a westward to west-northwestward motion should begin. On the foreast track, the cyclone is expected to approach the coast of Central America in 60-72 h. The track guidance is in good agreement through the first couple of days, but there is increasing cross-track spread after that time. The HMON, HWRF, and GFS show a track near or north of the coast of Honduras after 72 hours, while the ECMWF and UKMET are farther south. For now, the NHC track is near the middle of the guidance envelope between the HFIP corrected consensus model and the TCVA multi-model consensus. Key Messages: 1. The depression is expected to strengthen to a hurricane while it approaches the coast of Central America, and there is a risk of dangerous wind, storm surge, and rainfall impacts across portions of Nicaragua and Honduras beginning Sunday night. Hurricane Watches will likely be issued for a portion of this area tonight. 2. Through Wednesday morning, heavy rainfall from Tropical Depression Thirty-One may lead to life-threatening flash flooding and river flooding across portions of Haiti, Jamaica and Central America. Flooding and landslides from heavy rainfall could be significant across Central America given recovery efforts underway after Hurricane Eta. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 13/1500Z 14.2N 74.3W 30 KT 35 MPH 12H 14/0000Z 14.0N 75.0W 35 KT 40 MPH 24H 14/1200Z 13.8N 76.0W 45 KT 50 MPH 36H 15/0000Z 13.9N 77.3W 60 KT 70 MPH 48H 15/1200Z 14.1N 79.0W 70 KT 80 MPH 60H 16/0000Z 14.5N 80.9W 85 KT 100 MPH 72H 16/1200Z 14.9N 82.7W 95 KT 110 MPH 96H 17/1200Z 15.2N 85.7W 50 KT 60 MPH...INLAND 120H 18/1200Z 14.7N 88.3W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW $$ Forecaster Brown Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orangeburgwx Posted November 13, 2020 There it isSent from my LGL322DL using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orangeburgwx Posted November 13, 2020 Tfw the EPS and GEFS both have an identical outlier...Sent from my LGL322DL using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cptcatz Posted November 13, 2020 Looks like a tight core circulation on visible in the last few frames, at least in the upper level. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Windspeed Posted November 13, 2020 Upgrade to Tropical Storm. NHC now forecasting a Major Hurricane. 000 WTNT41 KNHC 132044 TCDAT1 Tropical Storm Iota Discussion Number 2 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL312020 400 PM EST Fri Nov 13 2020 Banding features over the eastern and southeastern portions of the cyclone's circulation have increased since this morning, and the overall organization of the system continues to quickly improve. Earlier ASCAT data indicated that there was a fairly large area of light winds near the center, and that the low-level center was displaced to the northwest of the mid-level center seen in visible satellite imagery. Since the system is still in its formative stage, the low-level center may reform closer to the mid-level feature, and the advisory position is a compromise between the low- and mid-level circulations. The earlier ASCAT data indicated peak winds of around 30 kt with several higher rain-inflated vectors. Based on the continued increase in organization, and Dvorak T-numbers of T2.5 from both TAFB and SAB, the initial intensity is raised to 35 kt. Iota becomes the 30th named storm of the recording-breaking 2020 hurricane season. The environment ahead of Iota appears to be quite conducive for intensification. The system will be moving over warm waters, in a moist atmosphere, and within an area of very low vertical wind shear. As a result, steady to rapid strengthening appears likely over the next few days. The NHC intensity forecast calls for Iota to reach hurricane status within 36 h, and now calls for the system to be a major hurricane when it approaches the coast of Central America. The NHC intensity foreast is in good agreement with the HFIP corrected consensus model, and the 70-kt increase in intensity over the next 72 hours is supported by the SHIPS Rapid Intensification Index that shows a nearly 60 percent chance of a 65 kt increase in intensity during that time period. The tropical storm has not moved very much today, and the initial motion estimate is a somewhat uncertain 255/3 kt. A strong mid-level ridge that extends across Florida and the western Atlantic is forecast to slide eastward over the next few days causing the cyclone to move faster toward the west or west-northwestward. The track guidance has come into a bit better agreement this afternoon, with only the HWRF showing a track farther north over the northwestern Caribbean Sea. The latest consensus aids were very close to the previous official forecast, and no significant adjustments to the earlier track forecast were required. Key Messages: 1. Iota is expected to strengthen and be a major hurricane when it approaches the coast of Central America. There is a risk of dangerous wind, storm surge, and rainfall impacts across portions of Nicaragua and Honduras beginning Sunday night or early Monday. Hurricane Watches will likely be issued for a portion of this area tonight or early Saturday. 2. Through Wednesday morning, heavy rainfall from Iota may lead to life-threatening flash flooding and river flooding across portions of Haiti, Jamaica and Central America. Flooding and landslides from heavy rainfall could be significant across Central America given recovery efforts underway after Hurricane Eta. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 13/2100Z 13.8N 74.3W 35 KT 40 MPH 12H 14/0600Z 13.7N 75.1W 45 KT 50 MPH 24H 14/1800Z 13.7N 76.2W 55 KT 65 MPH 36H 15/0600Z 13.9N 77.5W 70 KT 80 MPH 48H 15/1800Z 14.2N 79.3W 85 KT 100 MPH 60H 16/0600Z 14.6N 81.2W 95 KT 110 MPH 72H 16/1800Z 15.0N 82.8W 105 KT 120 MPH 96H 17/1800Z 15.2N 85.5W 50 KT 60 MPH...INLAND 120H 18/1800Z 14.7N 88.5W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW $$ Forecaster Brown Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orangeburgwx Posted November 13, 2020 This is without Iota, we got more ACE than the goddamn WPAC Sent from my LGL322DL using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dan11295 Posted November 13, 2020 Hey we got two "I" storms in one season... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orangeburgwx Posted November 13, 2020 "666"Waiiiiiiiiit...Sent from my LGL322DL using Tapatalk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the ghost of leroy Posted November 13, 2020 Looking forward to the next meaningless rapid intensification record to be broken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prospero Posted November 13, 2020 1 hour ago, the ghost of leroy said: Looking forward to the next meaningless rapid intensification record to be broken Looking forward to another distraction from mainstream news for a week or two!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prospero Posted November 14, 2020 Of course this will NOT turn into the Gulf. Also, NOT that anything is impossible in 2020. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdgwx Posted November 14, 2020 0Z SHIPS RI probability for 65 kts in 72 hours is 55% Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orangeburgwx Posted November 14, 2020 Of course this will NOT turn into the Gulf. Also, NOT that anything is impossible in 2020. EPS and GEFS have literally every member mirroring each other Only one ensemble on each escapes it NW, and that is only if the ridge cracks and there is a center relocation. Everything else drives it due westSent from my LGL322DL using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prospero Posted November 14, 2020 I know it would be highly unlikely to end up in the Gulf. Just that Eta is so fresh in my mind. Remember on October 30 we were wondering if it would even become a hurricane. And the track consensus was mostly in agreement. See below, October 30: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orangeburgwx Posted November 14, 2020 I know it would be highly unlikely to end up in the Gulf. Just that Eta is so fresh in my mind. Remember on October 30 we were wondering if it would even become a hurricane. And the track consensus was mostly in agreement. See below, October 30: Kinda funny how those Eta tracks mirror Iota... And we see how that turned out...Sent from my LGL322DL using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prospero Posted November 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Orangeburgwx said: Kinda funny how those Eta tracks mirror Iota... And we see how that turned out... Sent from my LGL322DL using Tapatalk Compare to Iota, which tracks farther north than Eta did: ............................................................ EDIT: Believe me, I am not wishcasting Iota to hit FL. It will take a few days for my poor old back to stop aching from cutting through a small tree to make a path in our back yard and picking up Eta debris on Thursday morning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoda Posted November 14, 2020 Still 40mph TS at 11... could be MH in 60 hours per disco though Tropical Storm Iota Discussion Number 3 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL312020 1000 PM EST Fri Nov 13 2020 Satellite images show that Iota has changed little during the past several hours. Deep convection is organized in fragmented bands around the center, except in the northwestern quadrant where there is a dry slot. All of the satellite intensity estimates are around 35 kt, and therefore, the initial intensity is held at that value. Iota has been drifting to the south-southwest during the past several hours, however, the steering currents are expected to become more pronounced soon. A strong and sprawling mid-level ridge currently centered over the Gulf of Mexico will shift eastward and build to the north of the tropical cyclone. Since this ridging is expected to remain well established to the north of Iota during the next several days, a general westward motion is expected through the forecast period. The NHC track forecast takes the core of Iota to the Nicaragua and Honduras coasts in about 3 days. However, conditions are expected to deteriorate along that part of the coast before the center arrives. The latest models are in fairly good agreement, except for the HWRF which is a northern outlier, and the NHC track forecast lies near the middle of the guidance envelope. This forecast is a little slower than the previous one. An upper-level trough to the west of Iota is expected to move west and dissipate on Saturday. This should leave the storm in favorable conditions of 29-30 C waters, and in an air mass of low wind shear and high moisture this weekend and early next week. These conditions support steady to possibly rapid intensification until Iota makes landfall. The main question is how strong will Iota become before it crosses the coast. The SHIPS Rapid Intensification Index shows a 55 percent chance of Iota strengthening 65 kt or more before it makes landfall, which is about 11 times the climatological mean. The NHC intensity forecast is an update of the previous one, and shows Iota strengthening to a major hurricane in about 60 hours. Key Messages: 1. Iota is expected to strengthen and be a major hurricane when it approaches the coast of Central America. There is a risk of dangerous wind, storm surge, and rainfall impacts across portions of Nicaragua and Honduras beginning Monday. Hurricane Watches will likely be issued for a portion of this area on Saturday. 2. Through Wednesday, heavy rainfall from Tropical Storm Iota will likely lead to life-threatening flash flooding and river flooding across portions of northern Colombia and Central America. Flooding and mudslides in Honduras and Nicaragua could be exacerbated by Hurricane Eta's recent effects there. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 14/0300Z 13.6N 74.2W 35 KT 40 MPH 12H 14/1200Z 13.5N 74.9W 45 KT 50 MPH 24H 15/0000Z 13.7N 76.0W 55 KT 65 MPH 36H 15/1200Z 14.0N 77.6W 70 KT 80 MPH 48H 16/0000Z 14.3N 79.5W 85 KT 100 MPH 60H 16/1200Z 14.5N 81.2W 100 KT 115 MPH 72H 17/0000Z 14.7N 82.7W 105 KT 120 MPH 96H 18/0000Z 14.8N 85.4W 50 KT 60 MPH...INLAND 120H 19/0000Z 14.3N 88.5W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW $$ Forecaster Cangialosi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hawkeye_wx Posted November 14, 2020 Iota's initial formation continues to drift south. A surface center has appeared on visible near 12.6 N this morning. It seems unlikely this will track north of Nicaragua. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hawkeye_wx Posted November 14, 2020 NHC actually lowered the future max wind from 120 to 110 because of Iota's initial struggle to organize. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites