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MO/KS/AR/OK 2020-2021 "Winter" Discussion


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17 minutes ago, StormChazer said:

Can someone explain the GFS-PARA. Is it just an alteration to the GFS in an early phase? An Upgraded version that needs tweaking?

The parallel GFS is basically an updated version in testing. The parallel running right now is V16, which is supposed to be moved over to the operational GFS in Feb of this year.

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25 minutes ago, JoMo said:

12z Euro is a bit farther west so SW MO, NW AR still looks like the sweet spot for rain/snow.

Looks like 2m temps are right on the border at 32-34.   Are we threading a needle here?  We should get some assistance from it being overnight hours.  Not sure how wet bulbing would play into things either.  
 

But the slight west trend looks good.  
 

18z HRRR starts shortly...

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100 PM CST Tue Jan 5 2021

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM WEDNESDAY EVENING THROUGH
THURSDAY MORNING...

* WHAT...Heavy snow possible. Total snow accumulations of 3 to 5
  inches in the higher elevations generally at or above 2000 feet.
  Below that, 1 to 3 inches are possible.

* WHERE...Carroll and Madison Counties.

* WHEN...From Wednesday evening through Thursday morning.

* IMPACTS...Plan on slippery road conditions. The hazardous
  conditions could impact the morning or evening commute.
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32 minutes ago, stormdragonwx said:

Liking these trends for my area being less than 48 hours out.

18z GFS (v16), 12z Euro, 12z WRF, and finally the 18z NAM 3km

Waiting for the 00z models to finish up their runs. I bet the WSW gets extended north and west a bit.

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I agree!  It’s looking good for those of us here in NW AR.  
 

Not to be Debbie Downer but the 18 and 00z HRRR runs haven’t been great.  The 12z was killer but it’s backed off since.  Temps seem to be too warm.  

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Takes me back to my school years where 0.5 degrees is the difference between a snow day and having to go to school. Waking up to 6" of snow on the first day of Spring when nothing but rain was forecast, and waking up to rain and 33 when snow was forecast.

 

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1 hour ago, JoMo said:

Takes me back to my school years where 0.5 degrees is the difference between a snow day and having to go to school. Waking up to 6" of snow on the first day of Spring when nothing but rain was forecast, and waking up to rain and 33 when snow was forecast.

 

Days like that earned Lee George his reputation 

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13 minutes ago, JoMo said:

12z Euro is going to do  a little something with the weekend/Monday system as well. Kind of rare to see it displace a system by so much within it's typical "good" 120 hour range. 

Well that’s an interesting change.   A little further north and we’re all in business.  Yesterday some of the model runs had it deep into the Gulf.  

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