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59 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

46 now. Drop has slowed, as usual.

Probably end up around 37-39 or thereabouts.

I doubt it’ll go all that low... should actually rise in strengthening SW flow later tonight.  Can already see all the ASOS slowing the drop and reporting high/mid-level clouds.

We might see our mins happen around midnight with a steady or slow tick up through the early AM.

Tomorrow might be a sneaky warm day up into the 70s even at elevation if the smoke doesn’t hamper things.

Edit: Yeah looks like it’s already even as far east as HIE, they rose a degree last hour.  That WAA is already kicking in.

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33 minutes ago, Lava Rock said:
2 hours ago, wxeyeNH said:
Probably most of you don't remember when Mt St Helens erupted.  I was living in Boston at the time.  The smoke cloud didn't last too long over New England but for a few hours it was very noticeable and people were talking about it.

My godmother lives outside of Bozeman and I recall her telling me they had a couple inches of ash all over

Nice obs outta MT from back then

MSO,1980-05-20 06:00,KMSO 200600Z 30007KT 3SM FU OVC/// BKN200 14/07 A2997 RMK D1 VOLCANIC ASH DEPTH 0.3 IN /003 SLP139 8/001 T01390067
WEY,1980-05-19 14:00,KWEY 191400Z 00000KT 5SM FG OVC025 07/05 A//// RMK THN COATING OF ASH ON GND/ 400/NOSPL SLP180 T00670050
BZN,1980-05-19 12:00,KBZN 191200Z 14007KT 5SM FU OVC020 12/07 A3004 RMK VOLCANIC ASH CVRS GROUND / SLP147 T01170067 50000
HVR,1980-05-19 14:15,KHVR 191415Z 24010KT 1 1/4SM OVC030 A2982 RMK PK WND /VSBY RDCD BY VOLCANIC ASH SLPNO 50000
SFF,1980-05-20 00:00,METAR KSFF 200000Z 24005KT 1/4SM OVC001 21/06 A2992 RMK VOLCANIC ASH SLPNO T02110061

 

 

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39 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

The radiational cooling difference won't be as meaningful when socked in with clouds and snow falling. :) Precip will be king.

Ha, nice perspective.  The radiational cooling can probably help with snowpack retention a bit, but it seems to be CAD that is more important in that regard.

In any case, precipitation is what you want to maximize when it comes to snowfall.  It looks like the Randolph NH-CS-10 CoCoRaHS site near you has averaged 55.70” of total annual liquid over the past decade, suggesting their average is pretty similar to what we get here at our site, or even a bit more with the extra elevation.  One figures your site will be right in that range as well, so you’ll have plenty of precip to work with.  I’m not sure what Alex’s site gets for annual precipitation, but it’s probably similar?  I think there’s a direction in which that site gets some downsloping?  But, if that’s the case, it may be compensated by the gains from upslope.

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1 hour ago, dryslot said:

Went with my brother in laws recommendations, He's been a contractor for 30 yrs and has done Harvey's, Who did you go with?

Analysis paralysis steered me to Okna.  Harvey was a close second.  Mathews Brothers hit my radar screen after the fact.  

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12 minutes ago, TwoDogNight said:

Analysis paralysis steered me to Okna.  Harvey was a close second.  Mathews Brothers hit my radar screen after the fact.  

Never even considered Matthew brothers, A lot of great window mfgs out there, Could have went with Pella or Anderson's but they have slipped in quality over the years and folks still go with them because of name recognition.

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47 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

I doubt it’ll go all that low... should actually rise in strengthening SW flow later tonight.  Can already see all the ASOS slowing the drop and reporting high/mid-level clouds.

We might see our mins happen around midnight with a steady or slow tick up through the early AM.

Tomorrow might be a sneaky warm day up into the 70s even at elevation if the smoke doesn’t hamper things.

Edit: Yeah looks like it’s already even as far east as HIE, they rose a degree last hour.  That WAA is already kicking in.

43 now. Alex is at 41. 

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29 minutes ago, dryslot said:

Never even considered Matthew brothers, A lot of great window mfgs out there, Could have went with Pella or Anderson's but they have slipped in quality over the years and folks still go with them because of name recognition.

Renewal by Andersen...cha-CHING!

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49 minutes ago, TwoDogNight said:

Analysis paralysis steered me to Okna.  Harvey was a close second.  Mathews Brothers hit my radar screen after the fact.  

 

10 minutes ago, TwoDogNight said:

Renewal by Andersen...cha-CHING!

So which one did you install? You said Okna now its Anderson?

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55 minutes ago, J.Spin said:

Ha, nice perspective.  The radiational cooling can probably help with snowpack retention a bit, but it seems to be CAD that is more important in that regard.

In any case, precipitation is what you want to maximize when it comes to snowfall.  It looks like the Randolph NH-CS-10 CoCoRaHS site near you has averaged 55.70” of total annual liquid over the past decade, suggesting their average is pretty similar to what we get here at our site, or even a bit more with the extra elevation.  One figures your site will be right in that range as well, so you’ll have plenty of precip to work with.  I’m not sure what Alex’s site gets for annual precipitation, but it’s probably similar?  I think there’s a direction in which that site gets some downsloping?  But, if that’s the case, it may be compensated by the gains from upslope.

I don’t know what our annual precip is (I only track snowfall) but we do downslope from the southwest; not as pronounced as the Twin Mountain / Whitefield stretch but we definitely downslope. Although we also upslope better than that stretch. It’s just a bit of a snow hole :)

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52 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

43 now. Alex is at 41. 

Yeah nice rebound in cooling.  I love you’re watching and learning of the micro-climates, that’s what makes the NNE mountains so fun from a weather perspective.

44F here and still clouds hindering a sharper drop.

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8 hours ago, PhineasC said:

46 now. Drop has slowed, as usual.

Probably end up around 37-39 or thereabouts.

Good call, WAA aloft not doing anything to the surface.  I was definitely wrong on temps rising late.

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Nice obs outta MT from back then
MSO,1980-05-20 06:00,KMSO 200600Z 30007KT 3SM FU OVC/// BKN200 14/07 A2997 RMK D1 VOLCANIC ASH DEPTH 0.3 IN /003 SLP139 8/001 T01390067

WEY,1980-05-19 14:00,KWEY 191400Z 00000KT 5SM FG OVC025 07/05 A//// RMK THN COATING OF ASH ON GND/ 400/NOSPL SLP180 T00670050

BZN,1980-05-19 12:00,KBZN 191200Z 14007KT 5SM FU OVC020 12/07 A3004 RMK VOLCANIC ASH CVRS GROUND / SLP147 T01170067 50000

HVR,1980-05-19 14:15,KHVR 191415Z 24010KT 1 1/4SM OVC030 A2982 RMK PK WND /VSBY RDCD BY VOLCANIC ASH SLPNO 50000

SFF,1980-05-20 00:00,METAR KSFF 200000Z 24005KT 1/4SM OVC001 21/06 A2992 RMK VOLCANIC ASH SLPNO T02110061

 
 

I think she slant sticked her measurement
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22 hours ago, donsutherland1 said:

Boston got down to 49 degrees this morning. The last time it was that chilly was June 2 when the temperature also fell to 49.

Don, I wonder when the last time 40s came so early....

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