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2 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

Currently the strongest shear combined with a few hundred j/kg of SBCAPE are moving into Northern NJ with one more wave about to move in. If we are going to see something, this is probably going to be it. Once that passes through in the next hour things should shut off pretty quickly from West to East. 

Overall a bit of a disappointment out this way. I know a lot of damage has been reported on the coast so don't want to downplay things but looks like further inland the inversion won out. Things could have been a bit more interesting if the system had tracked a bit further West and we truly got warm sectored. 

South jersey was the clear winner (or loser) today, some of the damage pics coming out of those areas are impressive especially in Cape May County.

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7 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

Currently the strongest shear combined with a few hundred j/kg of SBCAPE are moving into Northern NJ with one more wave about to move in. If we are going to see something, this is probably going to be it. Once that passes through in the next hour things should shut off pretty quickly from West to East. 

Overall a bit of a disappointment out this way. I know a lot of damage has been reported on the coast so don't want to downplay things but looks like further inland the inversion won out. Things could have been a bit more interesting if the system had tracked a bit further West and we truly got warm sectored. 

So far in my area, very similar to recent wind events.

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24 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

not much cold has made it to the east coast even with the -NAO, seems alot different than last year which had rains/clouds/chilly weather relentlessly

So far the main impact on temperatures have been muted highs. This is the first April 1-13 at Newark not to reach 70 since 2009.

Time Series Summary for Newark Area, NJ (ThreadEx)
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Ending Date
Highest Max Temperature Apr 1 to Apr 13
Missing Count
2020-04-13 69 1
2019-04-13 80 0
2018-04-13 84 0
2017-04-13 84 0
2016-04-13 80 0
2015-04-13 71 0
2014-04-13 83 0
2013-04-13 85 0
2012-04-13 71 0
2011-04-13 87 0
2010-04-13 92 0
2009-04-13 68 0
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1 hour ago, lee59 said:

So far my peak gust today out of the south is 41mph. Last Friday my peak gust was 38mph out of the NW and last Thursday my peak gust was 40mph out of the west.

Not sure what to tell you man, every single airport gusted much higher than 41...I'll go with the ASOS over your jerry rigged wind meter lol. ISP gusted to 61, and FRG 51. Your 41 is off. Get a new anemometer. 

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The most reports of 60mph+ gusts in the OKX zones were over Suffolk. This is where the models had indicated than the strongest LLJ in our local area would occur. The 82 mph gust along the Jersey Shore was with the well defined gravity wave.

...SUFFOLK COUNTY...
   ORIENT                  68   404 PM  4/13  TRAINED SPOTTER         
   ORIENT                  66   231 PM  4/13  CWOP                    
   STONY BROOK             63   319 PM  4/13  CWOP                    
   ISLIP AIRPORT           61   147 PM  4/13  ASOS                    
   ISLIP AIRPORT           61   147 PM  4/13  ASOS                    
   1 S BROOKHAVEN          60   146 PM  4/13  MESONET                 
   1 E BELLVIEW BEACH      60   149 PM  4/13  WXFLOW                  
   EATONS NECK             60   232 PM  4/13  WXFLOW                  
   STONY BROOK             58   243 PM  4/13  CWOP                    
   ORIENT                  57   245 PM  4/13  CWOP                    
   GREAT SOUTH BAY         57   133 PM  4/13  WXFLOW                  
   WEST GILGO BEACH        56   131 PM  4/13  CWOP                    
   SINAI HARBOR            56  1218 PM  4/13  WXFLOW                  
   MECOX BAY               55   205 PM  4/13  WXFLOW                  
   BLUE POINT              55   346 PM  4/13  WXFLOW                  
   FISHERS ISLAND AIRPO    55  1255 PM  4/13  WXFLOW                  
   FARMINGDALE AIRPORT     55   200 PM  4/13  ASOS                    
   FIRE ISLAND CG          54   143 PM  4/13  WXFLOW                  
   SHIRLEY AIRPORT         54   155 PM  4/13  ASOS                    
   NAPEAGUE                53   309 PM  4/13  WXFLOW                  
   WESTHAMPTON AIRPORT     52   206 PM  4/13  ASOS                    
   WEST ISLIP              49   159 PM  4/13  CWOP                    
   EASTPORT                48   228 PM  4/13  CWOP                    
   WEST ISLIP              47   138 PM  4/13  TRAINED SPOTTER         
   SOUTHOLD                47   305 PM  4/13  CWOP

 

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29 minutes ago, psv88 said:

Not sure what to tell you man, every single airport gusted much higher than 41...I'll go with the ASOS over your jerry rigged wind meter lol. ISP gusted to 61, and FRG 51. Your 41 is off. Get a new anemometer. 

 

 People don't live at the airport. Look closely at those observations. 90% of the peak wind gusts observations (for each observation period) at the airports were below 50. I believe the only 60 was Islip. Remember my anemometer, which is very accurate, is in a neighborhood like where most people live. The airports receive the highest wind gusts because they are wide open spaces.  By the way, about 1/2 the airports listed did not report wind gusts of 50mph despite the fact that they are in wide open spaces. Another words, if the vantage pro anemometer that I have was located at an airport, I'm sure I would have had a peak gust about 50 or more.

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10 minutes ago, lee59 said:
 

 People don't live at the airport. Look closely at those observations. 90% of the peak wind gusts observations (for each observation period) at the airports were below 50. I believe the only 60 was Islip. Remember my anemometer, which is very accurate, is in a neighborhood like where most people live. The airports receive the highest wind gusts because they are wide open spaces.  By the way, about 1/2 the airports listed did not report wind gusts of 50mph despite the fact that they are in wide open spaces. Another words, if the vantage pro anemometer that I have was located at an airport, I'm sure I would have had a peak gust about 50 or more.

You have to remember that the the open spaces like airports and shorelines are better representations of the actual peak wind gusts than your local neighborhood Davis sensor. Notice how many reports of downed trees there were across the entire area that weren’t near airports or the shoreline. This is telling you that the peak winds in local neighborhoods were realized near the treetop level. So the trees we’re blocking many home sensors from measuring the actual neighborhood peak gusts. 

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16 minutes ago, bluewave said:

The most reports of 60mph+ gusts in the OKX zones were over Suffolk. This is where the models had indicated than the strongest LLJ in our local area would occur. The 82 mph gust along the Jersey Shore was with the well defined gravity wave.


...SUFFOLK COUNTY...
   ORIENT                  68   404 PM  4/13  TRAINED SPOTTER         
   ORIENT                  66   231 PM  4/13  CWOP                    
   STONY BROOK             63   319 PM  4/13  CWOP                    
   ISLIP AIRPORT           61   147 PM  4/13  ASOS                    
   ISLIP AIRPORT           61   147 PM  4/13  ASOS                    
   1 S BROOKHAVEN          60   146 PM  4/13  MESONET                 
   1 E BELLVIEW BEACH      60   149 PM  4/13  WXFLOW                  
   EATONS NECK             60   232 PM  4/13  WXFLOW                  
   STONY BROOK             58   243 PM  4/13  CWOP                    
   ORIENT                  57   245 PM  4/13  CWOP                    
   GREAT SOUTH BAY         57   133 PM  4/13  WXFLOW                  
   WEST GILGO BEACH        56   131 PM  4/13  CWOP                    
   SINAI HARBOR            56  1218 PM  4/13  WXFLOW                  
   MECOX BAY               55   205 PM  4/13  WXFLOW                  
   BLUE POINT              55   346 PM  4/13  WXFLOW                  
   FISHERS ISLAND AIRPO    55  1255 PM  4/13  WXFLOW                  
   FARMINGDALE AIRPORT     55   200 PM  4/13  ASOS                    
   FIRE ISLAND CG          54   143 PM  4/13  WXFLOW                  
   SHIRLEY AIRPORT         54   155 PM  4/13  ASOS                    
   NAPEAGUE                53   309 PM  4/13  WXFLOW                  
   WESTHAMPTON AIRPORT     52   206 PM  4/13  ASOS                    
   WEST ISLIP              49   159 PM  4/13  CWOP                    
   EASTPORT                48   228 PM  4/13  CWOP                    
   WEST ISLIP              47   138 PM  4/13  TRAINED SPOTTER         
   SOUTHOLD                47   305 PM  4/13  CWOP

 

Outside Suffolk county the high wind warning was posted too far west. The soundings some were posted had too much inversion. People can’t rip and read those euro gust maps. (Not referring to you) 

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18 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Outside Suffolk county the high wind warning was posted too far west. The soundings some were posted had too much inversion. People can’t rip and read those euro gust maps. (Not referring to you) 

There were also areas north of NYC that had HWW conditions.

CWOP ...Dutchess County... Bannerman Island 66 1045 AM 4/13 WXFLOW Beacon 60 1020 AM 4/13 NYSM

1039 AM     NON-TSTM WND GST 1 S MAMARONECK          40.92N  73.73W
04/13/2020  M60 MPH          ANZ335             NY   WXFLOW

            LARCHMONT HARBOR WXFLOW STATION...ELEVATION 40 FEET.
CWOP                    

...Westchester County...
   Tappan Zee Light 14     68  1051 AM  4/13  WXFLOW       
Bridgeport Airport      61  1153 AM  4/13  ASOS
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