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WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is close to recommending that all Americans wear cloth masks if they go out in public, a change in position that reflects new concerns that the coronavirus is being spread by infected people who have no symptoms and new data suggesting the United States is not yet slowing the rate of infections.

At a White House briefing Thursday evening, both President Trump and Vice President Pence said that new guidance on masks would be issued by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in the coming days. But the comments of both Mr. Trump and a top official on the administration’s coronavirus response task force during the session suggested that the issue hasn’t been entirely resolved within the administration.

“If people want to wear them, they can,” President Trump said, declaring that while the administration was “coming out with regulations” on mask wearing soon, whether to follow them was a personal choice.

 

 

During the same briefing, Dr. Birx suggested that despite all the harsh measures such as stay-at-home orders and business closures, the U.S. is not yet flattening the spike in new infections.

We’re only as strong is every community, every county, every state, every American following the guidelines to a tee,” she said. “And I can tell by the curve, and as it is today that not every American is following it. And so this is really a call to action.”

 

Her caveats on masks reflect what has been a common view among many public health bodies about the effectiveness of masks for the general public. Until now, the C.D.C., like the World Health Organization, has advised that ordinary people don’t need to wear masks unless they are sick and coughing. Part of the reason has been to preserve medical-grade masks, including N95 respirator masks, for health care workers who desperately need them at a time when they are in continuously short supply.

Still, as the coronavirus devastates the United States, the C.D.C. has been drafting new guidelines recommending that everyone wear face coverings in public settings, like pharmacies and grocery stores, to avoid unwittingly spreading the virus, according to a federal official.

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17 minutes ago, wolfie09 said:

N95 mask are hard to come by but the KN95 are not.. CDC says they offer the same protection but it's not FDA approved..It's the"Chinese" version of the N95 which is funny because those are made in China to lol

I've been reading another aspect to the virus, it applies to many viruses or illneses... and it has to do with the "loading" of virus you get. Apparently, and this makes sense, the amount of virus ingested makes a difference in many cases as to how severe your symptoms will be (discounting other pre-existing medical issues). 

The less virus load that your body has to initially deal with, the better your immune system can handle it and better the outcome.  Data is suggestive that something like 75-80% of cases are thought to be transmitted person-to-person within families. So, it would be in a home environment where your exposure could be greater if someone is contagious. Or healthcare workers, people working or meeting in close quarters.

So masks, even if not N95 medical grade, would seem to make sense for even the uninfected to wear depending on where they are, which makes CDC's recommendations regarding mask use, any mask, all the more mystifying.

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If Oswego county continues the pace (give or take) it's on,  we would see an estimated 75-100 people infected by the time we reach the"Apex", out of a population of 111,000..

Lewis county currently has 2 out of nearly 30k..

Jefferson 15 out of 115k..

Obviously if u live away from any"bigger" city you have much less chance to contract the illness..

Currently 26 upstate counties have less than 20 infected...

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3 hours ago, Luke_Mages said:

Could have been child’s health plus that covered it. One way or another the it’s in the hospitals best interest to find a program that works. They can’t deny care if it’s non profit. 
 

As far as long term care goes you’re right, the cost is insurance cost prohibitive for many. This is going to sound insensitive but I think you have to plan for it. My wife’s family members that ended up in long term care paid out of pocket from their life savings and assets. My family members who end up in long term care will all become wards of the state. When you die ideally you should have as close to $0 as possible, taking money to the grave does nothing for you. 

This is exactly why I save just enough for retirement and spend it all on traveling. I don't plan on traveling much when I get older, and the traveling I do now I won't physically be able to do when I get older. The best course of action is to have $0 in all your accounts by the time you need nursing home care. 

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Stimulus checks start to go out next week..

The Internal Revenue Service plans to send electronic payments as soon as late next week to millions of Americans as part of the $2 trillion coronavirus law, a week sooner than expected, according to a plan circulated internally on Thursday.

However, $30 million in paper checks for millions of other Americans won’t start being sent out until April 24, as the government lacks their banking information. And some of those checks won’t reach people until September, the document shows, underscoring the reality that many Americans could have to wait five months to receive their checks.

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31 minutes ago, wolfie09 said:

Stimulus checks start to go out next week..

The Internal Revenue Service plans to send electronic payments as soon as late next week to millions of Americans as part of the $2 trillion coronavirus law, a week sooner than expected, according to a plan circulated internally on Thursday.

However, $30 million in paper checks for millions of other Americans won’t start being sent out until April 24, as the government lacks their banking information. And some of those checks won’t reach people until September, the document shows, underscoring the reality that many Americans could have to wait five months to receive their checks.

I’m glad we filed our taxes electronically.

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Oswego County: Possible exposure to COVID-19 at Pulaski drug store

Posted: Apr 3, 2020 / 09:35 AM EDT / Updated: Apr 3, 2020 / 12:10 PM EDT
 

PULASKI, N.Y. (WSYR-TV) — People who shopped at the Kinney’s Pharmacy at 3873 Rome Road in Pulaski on March 26 after 9 a.m. may have been exposed to COVID-19.

The Oswego County Health Department reported Friday that anyone who was in the store on that date should watch for symptoms that include fever, shortness of breath, or gastrointestinal illness until April 9.

Oswego County Public Health Director Jiancheng Huang says the agency has reached out to notify all known contacts of the infected individual.

People who experience symptoms should contact their health care provider by phone or call the department’s COVID-19 Hotline at 315-349-3330.

The department urges you not to go to a hospital emergency room unless you are experiencing life-threatening symptoms.

“The location was made public because our investigation shows there is a possibility of exposure to members of the public. We must balance public safety with protecting the privacy of infected individuals who have done nothing wrong,” said Legislature Chairman James Weatherup. “This is consistent with our policy of notifying the public when investigations of positive cases determine there is a possibility that others may have become infected, and this is consistent with procedures followed by our neighboring counties.”

“Our thoughts are with our associate, and we are doing everything we can to protect all of our employees and customers. We have been cleaning and sanitizing our stores according to CDC guidelines. We are in close contact with the Oswego County Health Department and continue to follow their guidance and all guidance of the CDC,” said Judith R. Cowden, spokesperson for Kinney Drug.

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4 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Italy.. 

4,585 new cases  and 766 new deaths in Italy.

Looks like they have truly peaked and have begun the slow decline.  A long brutal decline at that.

What a long lasting nasty bug for those who catch it and develop moderate to severe symptoms. Seems like 3-4 weeks until recovered. 

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49 minutes ago, tim123 said:

My concern is if it stays steady longer than they think. Will be telling. And china has alot of explaining to do if you ask me. 

Yep. And the curve in places like Italy is only flat lining while keeping everyone locked down. Release the restrictions and you'll see the new per day spike again.

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Oswego County: Possible exposure to COVID-19 at Pulaski drug store

Posted: Apr 3, 2020 / 09:35 AM EDT / Updated: Apr 3, 2020 / 12:10 PM EDT
 

PULASKI, N.Y. (WSYR-TV) — People who shopped at the Kinney’s Pharmacy at 3873 Rome Road in Pulaski on March 26 after 9 a.m. may have been exposed to COVID-19.

The Oswego County Health Department reported Friday that anyone who was in the store on that date should watch for symptoms that include fever, shortness of breath, or gastrointestinal illness until April 9.

Oswego County Public Health Director Jiancheng Huang says the agency has reached out to notify all known contacts of the infected individual.

People who experience symptoms should contact their health care provider by phone or call the department’s COVID-19 Hotline at 315-349-3330.

The department urges you not to go to a hospital emergency room unless you are experiencing life-threatening symptoms.

“The location was made public because our investigation shows there is a possibility of exposure to members of the public. We must balance public safety with protecting the privacy of infected individuals who have done nothing wrong,” said Legislature Chairman James Weatherup. “This is consistent with our policy of notifying the public when investigations of positive cases determine there is a possibility that others may have become infected, and this is consistent with procedures followed by our neighboring counties.”

“Our thoughts are with our associate, and we are doing everything we can to protect all of our employees and customers. We have been cleaning and sanitizing our stores according to CDC guidelines. We are in close contact with the Oswego County Health Department and continue to follow their guidance and all guidance of the CDC,” said Judith R. Cowden, spokesperson for Kinney Drug.

Thanks for sharing. I think their response in doing so was a very proactive, calm choice in the midst of something that might cause panic. Kudos to them. Trying to keep a "trail" on this virus is definitely more realistic in the less urban areas of our country...and could save lives.

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Live PD has a special edition tonight and tomorrow which will show you first hand the heroics of first responders and other medical personal..

 

These special editions of ‘Live PD’ will deliver a unique point of view and invaluable perspective that isn’t being heard anywhere else on television during this worldwide crisis,” said Elaine Frontain Bryant, A&E executive VP and head of programming. “Through first-hand accounts from the front lines and stories of true citizen heroes, the series will continue to serve the audience valuable information that we hope will aid in keeping everyone healthy and safe. Our thoughts are with everyone during this uncertain time.”

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Massachusetts

Gov. Charlie Baker on Friday announced the state is setting up a tracing collaborative to better track down people who may have been exposed to COVID-19 — the first state to launch such a project in the U.S.

When a person tests positive, public health officials ask the patient about who they came in contact with and reach out to those people. But the tracing collaborative involves a more formal infrastructure to track down people who may have been exposed to the coronavirus, Baker said.

As a reminder, there is tracing happening now, but this program we’re talking about launching today is a much more robust, targeted approach that we hope can be highly effective at slowing the spread,” the Republican said.

The collaborative was launched with help from Partners in Health, a nonprofit in Boston. The nonprofit will be expected the logistical and organizational functions, Baker said.

The collaboration will also have a virtual call center with up to 1,000 “virtual contact tracers." Baker said people have already agreed to sign up to work the call center.

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I guess he missed this photo lol And article from the NY times..

A tractor-trailer emblazoned with the New England NFL squad’s name rolled into enemy territory Friday on a mission of mercy, as it pulled up to the Javits Center to drop off a huge supply of N95 respirator masks that were purchased from China by the franchise’s owner.

“We’re all in this together. Headed to New York with hope, love and 300,000 masks for healthcare workers,” the Patriots wrote on their official Instagram page.

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