Upstate NY Banter and General Discussion..

[BuffaloWeather]

The Northeast is most expensive place in the US. My buddy bought a huge house in Austin for 300k. It would be more expensive here, and double the taxes. 

[wolfie09]

Once again NYC is skewing the mean lol I need to make 91k a year to own a home? News to me lol

[wolfie09]

The average rent for an apartment in Manhattan is $4,208, a 2% increase compared to the previous year.

[wolfie09]

At the start of 2020, the median home price in NYC was around $624,000. At present, the typical home value of homes in New York City is $632,271.

[BuffaloWeather]

Houses around here are getting pretty expensive. I believe the median home price in Erie County is around 200k.

Average property tax is $4-7k in that range. 

[Great Snow 1717]

19 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

The Northeast is most expensive place in the US. My buddy bought a huge house in Austin for 300k. It would be more expensive here, and double the taxes. 

The $1173 for MA is off.

[TugHillMatt]

1 hour ago, wolfie09 said:

Look at nj for example, 1100 for a studio and they have a lower minimum wage..I'm renting a 3BD apartment for$899 lol Houses for rent in NJ are like 2500+ a month..

Studio apartments in New Jersey have a median of $1,084 per month, according to 2019 data from Apartment List.

You live in rural areas. Any towns doing well in Upstate have ridiculous prices...it adds to class structure issues. In Baldwinsville, many apartments are 1100 t0 1700 A MONTH unless you get a dumpy place or can apply for assistance. Otherwise it's just another screw-job to those of us in the middle class who can't afford ridiculous monthly rents or mortgages...we get paid "too much" for assistance, but don't make enough to live among the wealthy. I believe it's a HUGE reason people are moving out.

[BuffaloWeather]

17 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said:

The $1173 for MA is off.

Yeah I think this data is old. The average there is likely $1500+? 

[BuffaloWeather]

10 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said:

You live in rural areas. Any towns doing well in Upstate have ridiculous prices...it adds to class structure issues. In Baldwinsville, many apartments are 1100 t0 1700 A MONTH unless you get a dumpy place or can apply for assistance. Otherwise it's just another screw-job to those of us in the middle class who can't afford ridiculous monthly rents or mortgages...we get paid "too much" for assistance, but don't make enough to live among the wealthy. I believe it's a HUGE reason people are moving out.

Yeah the average home price in Hamburg is $200-300k. Go in the city and its less. The suburbs around here are exploding in prices. 

[Great Snow 1717]

Just now, BuffaloWeather said:

Yeah I think this data is old. The average there is likely $1500+? 

Home prices have risen so fast that it has driven the cost to rent an apartment to record highs. I think it is likely over $1500. A good rental place in my area is at least 2 K. And that may or may not include parking. 

[OSUmetstud]

You have to adjust for average wages in area. People in NY and MA make more money than people in most states. Sure its cheap to leave Mississippi but do you think the jobs or wages or schools are particularly good there?  

[cny rider]

3 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said:

NY always has a deficit because of the insane lifelong pensions we give to government/state employees. I see people come in my office with those pensions all the time. Its INSANE what these people get after 20 years of working. No other state is even close to what New York gives out. 

NY never has a deficit, because states can't run budget deficits.

 

[cny rider]

46 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said:

You live in rural areas. Any towns doing well in Upstate have ridiculous prices...it adds to class structure issues. In Baldwinsville, many apartments are 1100 t0 1700 A MONTH unless you get a dumpy place or can apply for assistance. Otherwise it's just another screw-job to those of us in the middle class who can't afford ridiculous monthly rents or mortgages...we get paid "too much" for assistance, but don't make enough to live among the wealthy. I believe it's a HUGE reason people are moving out.

How else would you allocate a desired resource, like nice apartments, if not by price?

Serious question.

[Great Snow 1717]

27 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said:

You have to adjust for average wages in area. People in NY and MA make more money than people in most states. Sure its cheap to leave Mississippi but do you think the jobs or wages or schools are particularly good there?  

There are many not so great school systems in NY and MA.

[OSUmetstud]

Just now, Great Snow 1717 said:

There are many not so great school systems in NY and MA.

Of course, but Massachusetts is currently ranked 1 in the nation. 

[BuffaloWeather]

9 minutes ago, cny rider said:

NY never has a deficit, because states can't run budget deficits.

 

Did not know that, thanks. Only the federal government can run a deficit?

[Great Snow 1717]

Just now, OSUmetstud said:

Of course, but Massachusetts is currently ranked 1 in the nation. 

Honestly the rankings mean not a thing to me. Many school systems in MA teach to the MCAS test. In other words for students to pass a standardized test. As far as real educating goes well that is open to debate.

[Luke_Mages]

9 minutes ago, cny rider said:

NY never has a deficit, because states can't run budget deficits.

 

They can borrow to cover deficits, and borrowed $11B for FY2020. Technically that's a deficit unless you can argue that the interest paid on the money borrowed is more than paid back by whatever you borrowed the money for.

[TugHillMatt]

34 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said:

You have to adjust for average wages in area. People in NY and MA make more money than people in most states. Sure its cheap to leave Mississippi but do you think the jobs or wages or schools are particularly good there?  

It's MUCH cheaper to live in Tennessee and a couple of the surrounding states...and they have some great schools AND programs that benefit residents who act responsibly and work hard to benefit the state.

[BuffaloWeather]

Pfizer applying for emergency vaccination approval today!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/11/20/covid-news-pfizer-fda-emergency-use-authorization-california-mexico/6348787002/

[wolfie09]

SPORTS

Giants COVID-19 outbreak: Three more players test positive

By Ryan Dunleavy

November 20, 2020 | 10:27am

Canceling practice and shifting to virtual meetings earlier this week didn’t stop a COVID-19 outbreak from hitting the Giants.

Three more team members — offensive lineman Matt Peart, tight end Kaden Smith and newly signed receiver Dante Pettis — tested positive for the novel coronavirus Thursday night and were immediately notified to self-isolate, the team announced Friday morning. The contact tracing process is underway, according to the team.

Kicker Graham Gano tested positive Monday night and fellow specialists Casey Kreiter and Riley Dixon were put on the reserve/COVID-19 list for either high-risk close contacts or positive tests.

“Because of the bye week, the office is closed today,” the Giants said in a statement. “Players and coaches will resume work Monday with an adjusted schedule. The Giants and all teams are operating under the NFL’s intensive protocol for the remainder of the season. In all matters relating to positive results and close contacts we’re working with the NFL’s Chief Medical Officer.”

[OSUmetstud]

2 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said:

It's MUCH cheaper to live in Tennessee and a couple of the surrounding states...and they have some great schools AND programs that benefit residents who act responsibly and work hard to benefit the state.

Cool. Well you should move there then. 

[OSUmetstud]

1 minute ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Pfizer applying for emergency vaccination approval today!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/11/20/covid-news-pfizer-fda-emergency-use-authorization-california-mexico/6348787002/

Should be mid-December if approved. The independent board is meeting December 8 9 and 10th and combing over the data. 

 

[TugHillMatt]

8 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said:

Cool. Well you should move there then. 

On that note..maybe you should worry about your own province and country.

Rude, isn't it?

[cny rider]

17 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Did not know that, thanks. Only the federal government can run a deficit?

Yes as Luke said the states have borrowing ability and many creative schemes with revenues and expenses, but they can't run a deficit like the federal government can.

 

[BuffaloWeather]

How long is covid contagious for? I just had a lady sit at my desk who was in the hospital for 7 days with Covid 3 weeks ago. She works as a nurse. She said it started with the worst sore throat ever, felt like a flame in her throat. 

[OSUmetstud]

6 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said:

On that note..maybe you should worry about your own province and country.

Rude, isn't it?

I'm from Buffalo and I'm still an American. So I'm just saying if its so great there and you have the means then move. 

[BuffaloWeather]

@TugHillMatt

You really need to move to Springville. 200"+ of snow a year, cheap taxes and really cheap housing since its in the boonies. It also has the conveniences of being a small town. 

[TugHillMatt]

Just now, OSUmetstud said:

I'm from Buffalo and I'm still an American. So I'm just saying if its so great there and you have the means then move. 

Nope...climate sucks. lol

All places have their pros and cons though. New Yorkers are a tough people with rough exteriors...but very, very generous. Also, there are many hard workers here. Southerners tend to be more passive about getting things done and have some of the "fake" hospitality.

[TugHillMatt]

4 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

@TugHillMatt

You really need to move to Springville. 200"+ of snow a year, cheap taxes and really cheap housing since its in the boonies. It also has the conveniences of being a small town. 

Thanks for the suggestion! I have legit been thinking about it some more this year. haha