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18 minutes ago, South Shore Slop said:

The attitudes of those young bar hoppers is going to change by next weekend and beyond. 

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Today, between forty and fifty corona patients are in critical condition on Dutch intensive care units. “More than half of those patients are under fifty years old. It also includes young people. "That says chairman of the Dutch Association for Intensive Care (NVIC) Diederik Gommers, in an interview with this site.

 

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Attitudes will only “change”’if the bars close 

The governments and most regulatory bodies biggest objective is to make sure the public takes this seriously . Statistics are often very ...limited when most mild cases will never be caught ..ever . Due to limits in testing capabilities, people not seeking testing /help unless this gets beyond mild , etc. 

Information or perspective that are rationale but “dangerous “ Because threaten to lower the Public’s (how serious is this really response) will not be given print or air time 

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/first-case-coronavirus-found.html

However, it's now clear that early in what is now a pandemic, some infected people had no connection to the market. That included one of the earliest cases from Dec. 1, 2019 in an individual who had no link to that seafood market, researchers reported Jan. 20 in the journal The Lancet.

Scientists now suspect this coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, originated in a bat and somehow hopped to another animal, possibly the pangolin, which then passed it on to humans. The disease is now spreading between people without any animal intermediary.

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1 minute ago, MarkO said:

That's an interesting graph Steve. Density of virus in many countries ~10X that of the US. Understandably we're still in an early phase.

We also have a lower population density than those countries 

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I’m done going to breweries and restaurants for a while.  I had one final short stop at Stone Cow yesterday. Doors were open. We stayed away from people     But now I done.  
 

Treehouse is done pouring.  Only cans for now.  Ten feet apart. 
 

Walmart wasn’t busy.  Needed a few “normal” things.  No TP.  We use leaves

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Just now, psv88 said:

We also have a lower population density than those countries 

One would think a lower density would favor a slower transmission. We'll see how it all unfolds. Hopefully the actions we've taken and a little common sense will flatten the curve. But I assume we're still on the exponential side of contagion.

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44 minutes ago, MarkO said:

I really don't understand the closing of ski mountains. It's got to be a financial decision. Bars and restaurants are open. I spent the afternoon yesterday at Waterville. Not once did I go indoors or be within 6' of anyone other than sharing the lift with my kids   who    happen    to     live    with    me. 

 

But yeah, I can go to a bar.

Except for the gondola. I have no concerns being on a chair, but imagine being in a gondola and someone starts sneezing? No thanks :)

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8 minutes ago, MarkO said:

That's an interesting graph Steve. Density of virus in many countries ~10X that of the US. Understandably we're still in an early phase.

 

6 minutes ago, psv88 said:

We also have a lower population density than those countries 

You both know this, but we also haven’t tested people nearly enough. Gov of NY said yesterday he expects that thousands in the state have it. 

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Prime Minister of France: Covid19 is killing Young Obese people.

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This is his own statement from this morning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSZFA0xLQsQ

If you don't speak french, use captions auto-translate. Admitting that young obese people are dying from this is too politically incorrect for other nation leaders to say. Only France has admitted this.

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My brother who is a doctor at Inova Fairfax the biggest hospital in the DC/VA  (1100 beds)  area called me at 1015pm last night when he  got home from work.  He is on their newly formed CV task force.  Yesterday he was in meetings much of the day with what he says are super smart doctors.  He implored me not to leave the property unless we have too.  (Im 63 and Bob is 57).   He is a staunch Republican and has always supported Trump but he sure went off on him last evening.   He and the other specialist docs on the task force strongly feel there should be a 2 week National Holiday except for essential businesses.  He thinks this will get much worse and the hospitals are not prepared.  I asked him if Inova Fairfax is testing and he said they are but it is very limited.  That is a big frustration, not knowing where things stand. They have some very sick CV patients right now including younger people.

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7 minutes ago, wxeyeNH said:

My brother who is a doctor at Inova Fairfax the biggest hospital in the DC/VA  (1100 beds)  area called me at 1015pm last night when he  got home from work.  He is on their newly formed CV task force.  Yesterday he was in meetings much of the day with what he says are super smart doctors.  He implored me not to leave the property unless we have too.  (Im 63 and Bob is 57).   He is a staunch Republican and has always supported Trump but he sure went off on him last evening.   He and the other specialist docs on the task force strongly feel there should be a 2 week National Holiday except for essential businesses.  He thinks this will get much worse and the hospitals are not prepared.  I asked him if Inova Fairfax is testing and he said they are but it is very limited.  That is a big frustration, not knowing where things stand. They have some very sick CV patients right now including younger people.

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26 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

I’m done going to breweries and restaurants for a while.  I had one final short stop at Stone Cow yesterday. Doors were open. We stayed away from people     But now I done.  
 

Treehouse is done pouring.  Only cans for now.  Ten feet apart. 
 

Walmart wasn’t busy.  Needed a few “normal” things.  No TP.  We use leaves

I ate Chinese food  last night

So good

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47 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/first-case-coronavirus-found.html

However, it's now clear that early in what is now a pandemic, some infected people had no connection to the market. That included one of the earliest cases from Dec. 1, 2019 in an individual who had no link to that seafood market, researchers reported Jan. 20 in the journal The Lancet.

Scientists now suspect this coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, originated in a bat and somehow hopped to another animal, possibly the pangolin, which then passed it on to humans. The disease is now spreading between people without any animal intermediary.

Zoonosis is the terminology people want for this process that is most commonly used... for general info -  zoonosis; 'zoonotic host' any disease agent that uses an intermediary host ( in this case, bat to pangolin perhaps ...) to novel a new species destination. In this case being us, humans, in the latter sense.

Also, I had a rather potent illness that lasted 4 to 5 days, and with lingering 'fugue,' for a couple of more ...which is likely at the tale end of anything.  This occurred in mid November.. My symptom progression of the time started as a dry cough ...and ramped up to a dry cough and fever that evening.  Overnight, night sweats ..ooph, and by morning I was so weak I could barely get down the stairs without my knees buckling and I was shaking with fever.  My head was aching, badly. Whatever was going on, it didn't seem to bother my G.I. tract ( blessing! ).. But the third day was really bad... I was dizzy to stand up. The fever and chills persisted..and the dry cough was now a wet cough, but interestingly...it seemed to be restricted to the bronchial pathways,  perhaps stopping shy of the lung tissue, itself. That's why did not ultimately seek the E.R. And thankfully, amid the fourth day the wet cough suddenly, unusually, turned dry again ...which was weird before. That never happens(ed) in any respiratory infection I'd ever had - usually, you get better, the 'wet' part diminishes slowly over days with lingering tendencies to recur even though feeling substantially improved. But this thing, it abruptly stopped... and even the dry cough was suddenly hugely improved... The fever broke during the previous night too... By the evening something like that faux good mood that tends to signal happier times ahead had taken over my perception of things - I had the 'it' factor of health coming back. By the fifth day, I was essentially fine, just with just some lingering fugue/sense of weakness - probably more so because I had only eaten like 700 calories during that four-day ordeal... But 0 cough.

Now, if we go on the various veracious advisory sources for this thing, that arc of description is about spot on identical ... to those of whom arced this thing and walked away from it. I am considered to be in the healthier demographic - to which this thing has been statistically kinder.  Pays off to eat organic, dense protein, low refined sugars, and 70% of one's weakly calory budget from beans and vegetables, never drink or smoke or do drugs, work out every day, and get the sleep one needs ....  I guess.   But, the symptom spectrum/progression for COVID-19 ...mmm.   Meanwhile, these other accounts are anecdotally popping up on the web ...   

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It "might" ...it might just become evident that this thing has been in the Global community and entangled ( perhaps ...)/confused with influenza, and or missed altogether, for a bit longer than our already proven inadequate governmental apparatus that used to have intelligentsia and capacity for anticipating and monitoring of epidemiology.  Note, sparing the political risk please.... it is noted that the current administration cut funding to the Pandemic Response branch of the CDC early in 2018 - reasoning behind doing so, not included.  But, that is an example of general flouting of attitude and probably a poor foresight judgement by the current administration/conceit that is now biting them in the ass.  It could be contributing to why this has been a mad crazy scramble to get a hold of what we are dealing with, and should this thing ultimately be proven to have been a part of the 2019-2020 flu season longer than originally assessed, there too..

 

 

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34 minutes ago, psv88 said:

We also have a lower population density than those countries 

We also have a lower collective IQ than those countries. 

We also have a higher rate of comorbidities than those countries. 

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3 minutes ago, tunafish said:

We also have a lower collective IQ than those countries. 

We also have a higher rate of comorbidities than those countries. 

True

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12 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Dr Oz thinks the virus will be better by June  because of the warmer weather.

COCvid-19?

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I'm going to Atlantic City next month

It sucks staying inside and being separated from the world because of this virus. 

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Essential business means most business.

Food, medicine, communications, transportation, public safety, public health, law enforcement, banking, supply...  I could probably go on.  Which of these can take an indefinite break?

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1 hour ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

I’m done going to breweries and restaurants for a while.  I had one final short stop at Stone Cow yesterday. Doors were open. We stayed away from people     But now I done.  
 

Treehouse is done pouring.  Only cans for now.  Ten feet apart. 
 

Walmart wasn’t busy.  Needed a few “normal” things.  No TP.  We use leaves

Vitamin Sea and Trillium were jammed yesterday. Overflowing . Trillium was plastic only . Vit Sea had glass. Was a normal day 

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47 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Dr Oz thinks the virus will be better by June  because of the warmer weather.

Yeah he basically stated that it's harder to transmit by couphing etc. In higher humidity due to the actual virus expanding in said humidity, therefore not able to travel as far after a sneeze, fart etc....

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29 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

I'm going to Atlantic City next month

It sucks staying inside and being separated from the world because of this virus. 

I would bet money you won't be going to atlantic city next month but well see. 

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1 minute ago, OSUmetstud said:

I would bet money you won't be going to atlantic city next month but well see. 

You think it will be  closed ?

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1 minute ago, OSUmetstud said:

I think theres a good chance of that. And your services could be required in NYC. 

I'm on vacation during easter break so I was going to go during that time . They already told us if the MTA shuts down then we will be working 12 hour tours but the Mayor and Governor already said they are not going to shut down the MTA.

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