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Just now, OSUmetstud said:

Right. 

I’m not sure how that was arrived, but many are assuming the same 2% plus mortality rate too. That’s freaking out a lot of people. 

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5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I’m not sure how that was arrived, but many are assuming the same 2% plus mortality rate too. That’s freaking out a lot of people. 

Bc they aren't capturing the A symptomatic folks or majority of mild cases except in S. Korea . I believe you understand this . I don't mean to sound like i "KNOW" this so i don't want to offend people that don't agree but it seems like a slam dunk obvious to me

You aren't killing 2 million folks in us from this so either you believe that the 2-3% rate is way off or that the disease specialists that say 40-70% likely will be infected is way off or you think millions in US will die. Im pretty confident the US efforts will be below average on containment and preparedness given intial response so ....

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China only got it under control with draconian measures, and South Korea did so after testing on a massive scale. We’re barely scratching the surface with some of our efforts here. 

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2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I’m not sure how that was arrived, but many are assuming the same 2% plus mortality rate too. That’s freaking out a lot of people. 

It's probably closer to 1 percent. Still very high. And if regional health care systems get overwhelmed (like northern italy) the rate goes higher because they can't treat everyone. 

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Just now, CoastalWx said:

I’m not sure how that was arrived, but many are assuming the same 2% plus mortality rate too. That’s freaking out a lot of people. 

If I was younger I'd be more worried about the long term health affects this might have. I read a medical paper where the researchers described the young patients lungs with the term "meatloaf". This was from someone with mild symptoms. Read about the 1918 pandemic, lots of serious health problems associated with that for survivors.

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1 minute ago, OSUmetstud said:

It's probably closer to 1 percent. Still very high. And if regional health care systems get overwhelmed (like northern italy) the rate goes higher because they can't treat everyone. 

And we’ll see. I just feel that’s an awfully high number.  Not dismissing or downplaying it. I suppose if our idiot administration keeps up it could happen. Luckily states like MA are starting to take the bull by the horns. 

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3 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said:

It's probably closer to 1 percent. Still very high. And if regional health care systems get overwhelmed (like northern italy) the rate goes higher because they can't treat everyone. 

Agree. 

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Just now, CoastalWx said:

And we’ll see. I just feel that’s an awfully high number.  Not dismissing or downplaying it. I suppose if our idiot administration keeps up it could happen. Luckily states like MA are starting to take the bull by the horns. 

It could be. I guess well know more over the coming days. 

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2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

And we’ll see. I just feel that’s an awfully high number.  Not dismissing or downplaying it. I suppose if our idiot administration keeps up it could happen. Luckily states like MA are starting to take the bull by the horns. 

And this certainly isn't going to help.......

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-secrecy-exclusive/exclusive-white-house-told-federal-health-agency-to-classify-coronavirus-deliberations-sources-idUSKBN20Y2LM

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5 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said:

It's probably closer to 1 percent. Still very high. And if regional health care systems get overwhelmed (like northern italy) the rate goes higher because they can't treat everyone. 

This is the biggest driver of mortality in my opinion. If we eff up containment and mitigation (don't "flatten the curve") the mortality could be 1-2%. If we do it correctly we could look a lot more like South Korea. 

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2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

And we’ll see. I just feel that’s an awfully high number.  Not dismissing or downplaying it. I suppose if our idiot administration keeps up it could happen. Luckily states like MA are starting to take the bull by the horns. 

You have a lot more faith in the state than me. Of course they can handle things currently at the beginning

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3 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said:

You have a lot more faith in the state than me. Of course they can handle things currently at the beginning

I trust it much more than dummy in chief. 

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There are lots of interesting and quite frightening scenarios to ponder in my opinion . The first being this.

Why won't there be runs on Super markets.  

In Italy they didn't know what was coming as far as the ripple effects go....if you are unlucky enough to be near the epi-center you are now in a quarantined space.....There is no travel...How do you get food....who is bringing it...how many people are not accounted for and being brought food and if you can go to grocery store how many germs are on food . If they could do it again they would want it before the sick touched it ...no... I would stock the F Up.

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Just now, CoastalWx said:

I trust it much more than dummy in chief. 

Oh come on:

"You know, my uncle was a great person. He was at MIT. He taught at MIT for, I think, like a record number of years. He was a great super genius. Dr. John Trump. I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this? ' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president."

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Widespread college closings are going to be an economic nightmare for college towns. That will last a lot longer than any shut downs.

from what I’ve been reading it appears this is having the least damaging effect on children. Unfortunately they can be carriers but might show much less of the symptomology.
 

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4 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said:

Widespread college closings are going to be an economic nightmare for college towns. That will last a lot longer than any shut downs.

from what I’ve been reading it appears this is having the least damaging effect on children. Unfortunately they can be carriers but might show much less of the symptomology.
 

The disruptions will be our biggest issue. Mostly because of economic fallout with secondary concerns about general life disruptions. Unfortunately, that part is not an over exaggeration. It’s something that’s going to be a necessity.

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1 minute ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

Oh come on:

"You know, my uncle was a great person. He was at MIT. He taught at MIT for, I think, like a record number of years. He was a great super genius. Dr. John Trump. I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this? ' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president."

Trump tweeted the following in 2013

Thanks, Professor Trump." Dr John Trump, uncle, for many years at M.I.T. -good genes, I get it!

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2 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said:

There are lots of interesting and quite frightening scenarios to ponder in my opinion . The first being this.

Why won't there be runs on Super markets.  

In Italy they didn't know what was coming as far as the ripple effects go....if you are unlucky enough to be near the epi-center you are now in a quarantined space.....There is no travel...How do you get food....who is bringing it...how many people are not accounted for and being brought food and if you can go to grocery store how many germs are on food . If they could do it again they would want it before the sick touched it ...no... I would stock the F Up.

The US produces a lot of its own food so I’m not sure how badly the food supply chains will suffer. There will certainly be delays but restocking staples shouldn’t be a huge issue.

I have a few weeks or more worth of food on hand and only stocked up on a few of the survival staples if things get drastic.

you definitely want a good stock of food on hand just so you don’t have to go to the market as much. Also make sure you have plenty of food for fussy kids and stock up on pet food.

As far as adults go you can survive a long time on legumes rice and root vegetables.  A big jar of powdered greens is a good idea.  Lots of bullions and sauce to keep things interesting. Honey and maple syrup are a must.  

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Just now, CoastalWx said:

The disruptions will be our biggest issue. Mostly because of economic fallout with secondary concerns about general life disruptions. Unfortunately, that part is not an over exaggeration. It’s something that’s going to be a necessity.

And there is no precedent as to how deep the fallout will be ....it's a HUGE wildcard 

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8 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

The disruptions will be our biggest issue. Mostly because of economic fallout with secondary concerns about general life disruptions. Unfortunately, that part is not an over exaggeration. It’s something that’s going to be a necessity.

Good news though, China locking down all of Wuhan was able to drop the effective reproductive number from ~3 to 0.3. All we have to do here is weld people into their homes!

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20 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said:

That was posted several pages ago.  It's not like the findings or results of those discussions are being classified and all the data is public record.  Not sure why dumbo did that but I think some are trying to make it a bigger deal than it is.

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1 minute ago, OceanStWx said:

Good news though, China locking down all of Wuhan was able to drop the effective reproductive number from ~3 to 0.3. All we have to do here is weld people into their homes!

The sooner, the flatter the spread will be IMHO.

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6 minutes ago, OceanStWx said:

Good news though, China locking down all of Wuhan was able to drop the effective reproductive number from ~3 to 0.3. All we have to do here is weld people into their homes!

If Trump said that, most of his followers would do that. Could be a good thing? 

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