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2 minutes ago, Cold Miser said:

even without that it might be-there is awareness of the virus, we're wearing masks,  we're protecting our vulnerable population, etc etc...if it mutates to a lesser thing, then that's even better.

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2 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

Wow, that is eye-popping. But I guess destroying thousands of small businesses in CT was all worth it to accomplish basically nothing.

Like Epstein, many of those businesses aren't coming back to life.

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5 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Other than the various family and economic issues and ripple effects which are all far bigger than the virus .. it’s mainly over for all intents and purposes

The riots and protests are a nice segue for the outrage crowd on Twitter. They now have something else to tweet hysterically about.

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16 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Other than the various family and economic issues and ripple effects which are all far bigger than the virus .. it’s mainly over for all intents and purposes

I'm starting to agree with this more and more-colleges heading back in the late summer, groups expanding to 25 outdoors/10 indoors....things looking up.

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I'm by -in-large over the physical impacts part of this.  MA has been trending positively for quite some time now and I don't see any reason to delay future phases of opening up the economy.  March/April we clearly made the right decisions to mitigate the transfer of the virus.  As we have learned how certain segments of the population fare worse, we can take steps to  protect those segments as best we can.  Also we need to start taking more personal responsibility for our own cleanliness/sanitizing habits if we are going to be around those who are most susceptible.

We are no doubt going to have to deal with another surge of cases in the Fall as schools open up.  Hopefully that does not lead to another surge in deaths.

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5 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

I'm by -in-large over the physical impacts part of this.  MA has been trending positively for quite some time now and I don't see any reason to delay future phases of opening up the economy.  March/April we clearly made the right decisions to mitigate the transfer of the virus.  As we have learned how certain segments of the population fare worse, we can take steps to  protect those segments as best we can.  Also we need to start taking more personal responsibility for our own cleanliness/sanitizing habits if we are going to be around those who are most susceptible.

We are no doubt going to have to deal with another surge of cases in the Fall as schools open up.  Hopefully that does not lead to another surge in deaths.

it will be interesting though as many younger folks, (especially under age 20) don't have symptoms....

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5 minutes ago, PowderBeard said:

I know it was always a bit of a thing but first fews days of the month at grocery stores looks brutal. Driven by three and all had a 30+ person line to get in this morning. New normal?

At least in CT, SNAP/public assistance accounts re-set on the 1st of the month so the crowds are usually larger

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6 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

it will be interesting though as many younger folks, (especially under age 20) don't have symptoms....

Correct, but if we still practice and keep in place the masks and social distancing measures and be cognizant of those whom we interact with that may be of a highers risk, we should do OK.  Herd immunity will develop pretty quickly if most cases are unknown or mild.  I see therapeutics coming onboard next year as the latest trials look promising for some of them.

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15 minutes ago, PowderBeard said:

I know it was always a bit of a thing but first fews days of the month at grocery stores looks brutal. Driven by three and all had a 30+ person line to get in this morning. New normal?

I have yet to wait in a line to get in a store. Almost did on Saturday at the hardware store near me.  The second I got to where the line would form the employee let my wife and I right in.     
Have not waited in a line even at checkout in a few weeks.   Get there early

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4 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

Correct, but if we still practice and keep in place the masks and social distancing measures and be cognizant of those whom we interact with that may be of a highers risk, we should do OK.  Herd immunity will develop pretty quickly if most cases are unknown or mild.  I see therapeutics coming onboard next year as the latest trials look promising for some of them.

what will be interesting is older teachers and their willingness to return to the classroom even in a social distance type setting....

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6 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

what will be interesting is older teachers and their willingness to return to the classroom even in a social distance type setting....

I worry more about us having to be the ones telling the kids to put their masks back on if that winds up being a requirement.  That will get old real quick. 
And I have yet to see a model for social distancing that works for all parties.   Maybe we just let er rip

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Just now, HoarfrostHubb said:

Yep. I think that has more of an opportunity to put a dent in mortality compared to these random anti virals. With a lot of prevalence estimates world wide around 5 percent we have a long way to go with this thing. 

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1 hour ago, PhineasC said:

The riots and protests are a nice segue for the outrage crowd on Twitter. They now have something else to tweet hysterically about.

No one tweets more hysterically than the child in the WH.

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I’m kind of with Phin on this though. Enough is enough with the fear mongering. We took the correct steps in March and April based on all the information we knew and the concerns we had about the health care system. It’s now ok to talk about protecting the vulnerable (including many of our loved ones) while also addressing the fact that the younger and more healthier crowd have had far less health issues than once feared. It seems like part of the problem in addition to the media, is that officials are afraid to do so....afraid many will say **** it and act more recklessly. That’s a legit concern. 

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8 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I’m kind of with Phin on this though. Enough is enough with the fear mongering. We took the correct steps in March and April based on all the information we knew and the concerns we had about the health care system. It’s now ok to talk about protecting the vulnerable (including many of our loved ones) while also addressing the fact that the younger and more healthier crowd have had far less health issues than once feared. It seems like part of the problem in addition to the media, is that officials are afraid to do so....afraid many will say **** it and act more recklessly. That’s a legit concern. 

The horse on behaving recklessly has basically left the barn considering tons of young people are burning down the cities as I type this. 

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8 minutes ago, Wmsptwx said:

Honestly I haven’t even heard about the coronavirus in like the last five days.

Almost like the media and local civic leaders were waiting for an excuse to jump out of the holes they had dug with months of fear porn and move to another topic...

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Just now, PhineasC said:

Almost like the media and local civic leaders were waiting for an excuse to jump out of the holes they had dug with months of fear porn and move to another topic...

Meh, lack of attention to one topic is common in media...plus these events are pretty noteworthy. Quietly covid is still killing 800 to 1250 Americans everyday.

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2 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

Wow...only 200 new cases in Italy today. Have to go back to the end of February to get numbers that low 

Their serious/critical numbers have been on a slow decline as well over the past 2 weeks or so.

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18 minutes ago, Wmsptwx said:

Honestly I haven’t even heard about the coronavirus in like the last five days.

 

8 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

Almost like the media and local civic leaders were waiting for an excuse to jump out of the holes they had dug with months of fear porn and move to another topic...

I'm sure it will be back in the news once the rioting quiets down, but not to the degree it once was.   NY is down to 54 deaths today from 800 a day 6 weeks ago-that won't grab the same kind of headline

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1 minute ago, dryslot said:

Their serious/critical numbers have been on a slow decline as well over the past 2 weeks or so.

yeah the decline has been quite slow. Glad to see them pretty much near the end of this. Active cases have been going down too which is great

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15 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

The horse on behaving recklessly has basically left the barn considering tons of young people are burning down the cities as I type this. 

We'll definitely find out in 2 weeks. But, I don't fault a politician to try to be responsible and not open up too quick based on the what we know. 

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17 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

Wow...only 200 new cases in Italy today. Have to go back to the end of February to get numbers that low 

Yeah great news, the lockdown worked great to really drop the Ro significantly 

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13 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

yeah the decline has been quite slow. Glad to see them pretty much near the end of this. Active cases have been going down too which is great

The backside has all way's been projected to be a slow burn downward.

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CT having trouble meeting testing goal, but not b/c of a lack of tests, but a lack of people seeking tests:

Connecticut fell far short of a key COVID-19 testing goal, state numbers show, as many residents remain confused about exactly who should get tested.

Despite once promising to conduct and process 50,000 tests a week by the end of May, state officials reported only 35,910 results over the final seven days of the month. Not only was that figure short of the state’s goal, it was also down from the previous week, when the state reported about 43,500 results.

"Connecticut’s rate of positive tests has declined sharply over the past month, to about 5% in recent days. The state currently has 481 patients hospitalized with COVID-19, per state numbers, fewer than it had at the start of April"

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