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July 2019 General Discussions & Observations Thread


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13 hours ago, dWave said:

If it's any consolation most people get their weather from weather apps on their phone. Most apps just point to the closest official obs station, not holding central park in any special regard. For a large portion of NYC you'll get LGA readings and statistics.

it actually feels worse when you have temps in the 80s with high humidity vs low 90s and low humidity.  I notice I use my a/c far more in the former conditions.  High humidity is really hard to tolerate especially because it causes air pollutants to remain close to the ground and causes breathing difficulties and heightens allergies and asthma.  Temps staying up at night because of that is also a big problem.

When JFK gets a sea breeze and is in the low 80s vs LGA in the low or mid 90s people look at that and think, wow JFK and the south shore is so lucky!  I wish they'd see the dew points and think again, yesterday LGA was 91 degrees with a dew point of 54 while JFK was 84 with a dew point of 72- YUCK!

This looks like a 1996-type summer to me as of right now.

 

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12 hours ago, uofmiami said:

One of the few days I probably will.  Those winds when they pick up a tad knock the temp down only to rebound and repeat the cycle. I seem to go up to 89 and down to 88 as winds gust to 8 mph.

At my parent’s house, Muttontown, it hit 90.1 so far.  Definitely need to set up the new VP2 I have for here as the fan in the FARS is making noise plus my anemometer is shot. 

your spot seems to be the best for radiational cooling in the winter for Nassau County and retains snowcover exceptionally well!

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16 hours ago, CIK62 said:

Let's not forget 1966 during this period.     From June 20 to July 15 a total of 26 days---and 19 of them were in the 90's, with 4. 100's mixed in.

103 on July 03 in the Central Park, with 107! at LaG, topped the bunch.

Was warmest summer to that time, I think.  37 days of at least 90 degrees.

Aw!   The Good Ole Days,---when I could almost tolerate that kind of continuous heat.  Lol.

it was easier to tolerate because it was less humid back then.  Heck you dont even have to look that far back.  1999 and 2010 were easier to tolerate because the humidity was less back then too.  Plus seeing the thermo hit 100 was quite fun!

Notice the 11 year pattern with our hot/dry summers?  Perhaps they will return in 2021.....

 

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Tame high temperatures by early July 2010’s standards. The Newark high of 90 for the first 4 days is on the cool side for this decade. But the minimum of 77 was tied for the highest. So a continuation of the warm minimums being more impressive than the maximums.

Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Rank
Ending Date
Highest Max Temperature Jul 1 to Jul 4
Missing Count
  2016-07-04 84 0
  2015-07-04 85 0
  2019-07-04 90 0
  2017-07-04 90 0
  2013-07-04 91 0
  2011-07-04 92 0
  2014-07-04 96 0
  2018-07-04 98 0
  2012-07-04 98 0
  2010-07-04 101 0
Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Rank
Ending Date
Highest Min Temperature Jul 1 to Jul 4
Missing Count
  2019-07-04 77 0
  2018-07-04 77 0
  2013-07-04 76 0
  2014-07-04 73 0
  2012-07-04 73 0
  2011-07-04 72 0
  2017-07-04 71 0
  2016-07-04 70 0
  2015-07-04 70 0
  2010-07-04 67 0

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^^Damn I'm tired of these warm nights. Not only does it skew things and make people think it's warmer than it is when they see the stats but more importantly it's messing with my garden. Between too much rain and general moisture and too much warmth without recovery times things just aren't growing right. My carrots and tomatoes can't seem to dry out and really get growing and I've already lost a few plants to too much water. I miss those times when nights, even in the heart of the warm season, would make it into the 50's a few times a week. It seems that the forest understory appreciates this overnight warmth though, things like ground growth plants and poison ivy/oak are having themselves a big ol' time this year :( 

Not quite IMBY but close, I have an outdoor event tomorrow on the central CT coast, near New London. What are the chances the heavy rain stays away until after 5pm? I have a feeling that's very wishful thinking but I'm hoping someone can tell me it's not.

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the number of 80 degree minimums have gone up recently...last year NYC set a record for the latest 80 degree minimum on record...Newark missed out last year...

min/max.......dates...

81...........7/01/1872

82...........7/02/1872
81/90......7/03/1876
81/90......7/19/1878
80/95......7/07/1883
80/94......7/25/1885
81/91......8/11/1891
82/98......8/09/1896
80/94......8/10/1896
81/96......8/11/1896
81/95......7/18/1900

80/95......6/30/1901
82/100....7/02/1901
80/96......7/18/1905
80/95......7/19/1905
80/92......8/11/1905
80/87......7/23/1906
80/94......8/06/1906
80/90......7/05/1908
81/95......7/06/1908
84/93......7/07/1908
81/93......8/05/1908
80/87......8/06/1908
82/94......8/13/1908
84/93......8/14/1908
82/100....7/31/1917
82/98......8/01/1917
80/96......8/06/1918
82/104....8/07/1918
81/94......7/20/1930
80/98......8/02/1933
81/100....6/26/1952
80/95......7/16/1952
80/101....7/22/1957
81/95......7/23/1978
82/102....7/21/1980
80/96......8/08/1980
80/95......8/09/1980
80/95......8/15/1985
80/94......8/12/1988
80/99......8/14/1988
81/97......8/15/1988
80/100....7/08/1993
80/102....7/10/1993
84/102....7/15/1995
82/102....7/05/1999
83/101....7/06/1999
82/103....8/09/2001
82/95......7/03/2002
81/96......7/04/2002
80/95......7/30/2002
80/98......8/13/2002
80/99......8/13/2005
83/97......8/02/2006
81/103....7/06/2010
80/100....7/07/2010
80/97......7/24/2010
84/104....7/22/2011
83/100....7/23/2011

82/94......7/20/2015

80/96......7/23/2016

81/96......8/13/2016

81/92......8/29/2018

.................................................................................

 

Newark N.J. 80 degree minimum days...

min/max...date...

80/97.....7/17/1968

80/90.....7/24/1972

80/97.....8/03/1975

80/98.....7/23/1978

81/101...7/21/1980

80/98.....7/09/1981

80/94.....7/10/1981

80/100...7/18/1982

80/98.....7/19/1982

80/98.....7/16/1983

80/97.....8/15/1985

80/95.....8/12/1988

80/98.....8/14/1988

81/99.....8/15/1988

82/105...7/08/1993

83/104...7/09/1993

84/105...7/10/1993

80/99.....7/11/1993

80/97.....7/12/1993

82/104...7/15/1995

81/103...7/05/1999

82/102...7/06/1999

80/99.....8/01/1999

82/101...8/08/2001

82/98.....7/03/2002

81/100...7/04/2002

81/96.....7/30/2002

80/102...8/13/2005

81/100...8/02/2006

80/101...8/03/2006

80/98.....6/28/2010

81/103...7/06/2010

82/99.....7/24/2010

86/108...7/22/2011

86/102...7/23/2011

82/100...7/19/2013

80/97.....7/20/2015

80/98.....7/23/2016

80/97.....8/14/2016

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Saturday looks like it will be our highest dewpoints of the season so far. The dewpoints are already pushing 80 degrees to our south. So heavy downpours and localized flash flooding will be possible with any training convection.

https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=PHI&issuedby=PHI&product=RWR&format=CI&version=1

EASTON         MOSUNNY   82  79  89 CALM  
CAMBRIDGE      PTSUNNY   82  79  89 SE5      

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37 minutes ago, NycStormChaser said:

Tomorrow will have cooling aloft just like last sunday across Long Island. 

it's nowhere to that degree though.  Models hold off on storms until very late as well...you won't have the destructive sunshine like last weekend when the storms rolled in much earlier.

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9 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

Read that them having 5 straight days of 85+ would be like NYC having 5 straight days of 101+

They reached 90, that's incredible for them.

The record of consecutive 80+ was 4 I believe. 

Breaking an all time record by 5 is very impressive. Major heat (relative to normal) has been a common theme there.

Imagine a high of 111 in the Park.

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25 minutes ago, dWave said:

They reached 90, that's incredible for them.

The record of consecutive 80+ was 4 I believe. 

Breaking an all time record by 5 is very impressive. Major heat (relative to normal) has been a common theme there.

Imagine a high of 111 in the Park.

Anyone think we'll see 110 at any of the NYC stations in our lifetimes?

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5 hours ago, gravitylover said:

^^Damn I'm tired of these warm nights. Not only does it skew things and make people think it's warmer than it is when they see the stats but more importantly it's messing with my garden. Between too much rain and general moisture and too much warmth without recovery times things just aren't growing right. My carrots and tomatoes can't seem to dry out and really get growing and I've already lost a few plants to too much water. I miss those times when nights, even in the heart of the warm season, would make it into the 50's a few times a week. It seems that the forest understory appreciates this overnight warmth though, things like ground growth plants and poison ivy/oak are having themselves a big ol' time this year :( 

Not quite IMBY but close, I have an outdoor event tomorrow on the central CT coast, near New London. What are the chances the heavy rain stays away until after 5pm? I have a feeling that's very wishful thinking but I'm hoping someone can tell me it's not.

And up here I have to water every single day to keep gardens from crumbling into dust...

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1 hour ago, Brian5671 said:

it's nowhere to that degree though.  Models hold off on storms until very late as well...you won't have the destructive sunshine like last weekend when the storms rolled in much earlier.

PWATs will be over 2" tomorrow and we have this weak upper feature currently over WV moving overhead - the past 2 days this has produced widespread PM storms over the Mid-Atlantic and interior NE. 

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Development has been occurring by late morning, so I think we could see storms off/on throughout the afternoon tomorrow. The frontal feature to our N doesn't move through until late evening. 

 

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58 minutes ago, purduewx80 said:

PWATs will be over 2" tomorrow and we have this weak upper feature currently over WV moving overhead - the past 2 days this has produced widespread PM storms over the Mid-Atlantic and interior NE. 

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Development has been occurring by late morning, so I think we could see storms off/on throughout the afternoon tomorrow. The frontal feature to our N doesn't move through until late evening. 

 

Agree with the heavy rain threat with PWATS that high....

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20 minutes ago, bluewave said:

4th 75 degree dewpoint  day of the year for JFK. Only 6 more needed for the first 4 consecutive years streak  in the double digits.

https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/plotting/auto/?_wait=no&q=161&network=NY_ASOS&zstation=JFK&var=max_dwpf&dir=aoa&thres=75&month=all&year=2019&dpi=100&_fmt=js

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https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/plotting/auto/?_wait=no&q=161&network=NY_ASOS&zstation=NYC&var=max_tmpf&dir=aoa&thres=90&month=jul&year=2019&dpi=100&_fmt=js&_cb=1

What happened to the data for about 20 years at Central Park, early 1980;s to 2000?

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