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Summer 2019 Banter Thread

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2 hours ago, etudiant said:

Quite wrong imho.

The big rise in emissions is from China, India and other developing countries desperate to lift their people out of millennia of poverty.

They need reliable power for their industrial development and coal is the best way to achieve that. Nuclear is better, but costs too much because of the regulatory overhead imposed by anti proliferation and anti exposure rules.

Either way, the consumption of meat has to lessen (both for the environment and for our health.)  Land use is a major issue.

Going on the climate change train.... emission of methane from herd animals as a whole accounts for more greenhouse gas emissions than any nation in the world besides China and the US.  And as China and India are "developing" they are adopting more of the unhealthy Western diet and consuming more meat.

 

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11 hours ago, Snow88 said:

They have pumpkin spice and apple cider donuts at Dunkin Donuts .

Autumn is coming =)

And you can enjoy both while we torch right through November :D

Soon the Christmas stuff will be out too.

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15 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

too much consumption of meat is widely known to be a health as well as environmental issue.  If everyone consumed as much meat as America does, the world would have ran out of fresh water back in 2005. 

Just look at the fires in the Amazon- who started them?  Cattle ranchers and loggers.  They should be in prison for life for doing that.

While there has always been people trying to clear land in the Amazon, the new president of Brazil has created an environment more permissive of it, allowing such actions to go more unchecked. He has a more anti environmental regulation stance in general.

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5 hours ago, dWave said:

While there has always been people trying to clear land in the Amazon, the new president of Brazil has created an environment more permissive of it, allowing such actions to go more unchecked. He has a more anti environmental regulation stance in general.

Yea he is Trump lite.  At some point, we need to realize that the Amazon is WAY more important than the nation of Brazil or any other country for that matter.  There should be an international environmental corps with muscle that steps in and prevents them from doing this, regardless of what Brazil's "leader" says.... that also applies to Trump and what he's been doing to endangered species and drilling on public lands.

 

Keep in mind that I'm not talking about eliminating meat completely, but lessening it to about 10% of the diet, which would benefit us environmentally as well as healthwise (see ACA and AHA recommendations.)

You're right about overpopulation and densely populated cities being a problem, that increases pollution (see rising asthma rates and the health impact of light pollution as well as toxic waste) and frankly, too high of a population growth rate in developing nations in Africa is more of a problem than poachers are.  We are in the middle of a mass extinction right now because humanity is seizing land that should be set aside for nature, not to mention other problems that go along with this issue, like climate change and plastic in the oceans.  Studies have shown that the best way to reduce climate change is to have one less child.  That reduces our carbon footprint faster than anything else does.

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loosing some rain forests are not good but you can't tell Brazil how to manage their land...same goes for the globalists telling us how to run our country...we can conserve all we want but if other countries don't we are wasting our time and money...

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