jpeters3 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Any reports of injuries/fatalities from the Dayton storm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Just now, jpeters3 said: Any reports of injuries/fatalities from the Dayton storm? A few minor injuries but no fatalities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 What a crazy night for Ohio, and for the last two weeks overall in regards to tornadoes. I don't recall the last time a large tornado hit Ohio. Don't think of them as a typical area to get tornadoes. Last week it was the midwest, typical tornado alley spots that got hit. Before that it was the SE. This has been a bad month for tornadoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeters3 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, snowlover2 said: A few minor injuries but no fatalities. This is great news. I was a bit worried last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Strong ef 2 then are we thinking for the Dayton storm? Didn't seem to be quite as violent as first thought last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob1 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Wmsptwx said: Strong ef 2 then are we thinking for the Dayton storm? Didn't seem to be quite as violent as first thought last night. There are some pictures coming out of Trotwood now that show houses flattened and brick houses completely destroyed. Probably higher than that. Great news though about the absence of fatalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I have seen areas of EF-4,5 damage from this tornado in Dayton, OH and Celina, OH. Also the damage images are awful, one fatality and the 81-year old man died as a car was thrown into his home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 60 reports of tornadoes from 12z 27th to 12z 28th of May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Most pics I took a look at were roof damage, debris scattered and tree damage but cars were mainly intact and not thrown and flipped. I didn't see ones you did so may have been worse. Being at night may have helped in this case, as at least people were home inside a structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeters3 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 We all know how useful it is to argue about EF-scale ratings based upon extremely limited information... Lest just wait for the survey, eh??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob1 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, Wmsptwx said: Most pics I took a look at were roof damage, debris scattered and tree damage but cars were mainly intact and not thrown and flipped. I didn't see ones you did so may have been worse. Being at night may have helped in this case, as at least people were home inside a structure. These were ripped off Twitter as I can't embed so many links. If that's an issue I will take it off right away. I believe these are all in Trotwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Yeah, those would warrant ef 3 if solid structure so you are right likely over 2 in places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, jpeters3 said: We all know how useful it is to argue about EF-scale ratings based upon extremely limited information... Lest just wait for the survey, eh??? Sorry jpeters, not arguing just speculating in the thread...of course they will have final and total word on it in the end. Fortunate it seems it wasn't extreme high end being time of day it was, but was scary enough as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 53 minutes ago, jpeters3 said: This is great news. I was a bit worried last night. Sounds like there was 1 death in Celina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachLB Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 From Celina. This guy posted around a 100 pics on FB. Lima news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob1 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Brookville OH (far western area of where that tornado started) https://mobile.twitter.com/weatherdak/status/1133378177307250688 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 My concern is if it hit any modular home or trailer park harder to access, luckily many of these were well built and at least offered some shelter to people, though a few had roof failure and some total collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Listening to the Dayton scanner feed. They are still going door to door to see if people were hurt. Heard some say structures were completely flattened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Brick Tamland said: Listening to the Dayton scanner feed. They are still going door to door to see if people were hurt. Heard some say structures were completely flattened. Yeah, still having difficulty getting to some of the heaviest hit areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLarsen34 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, Wmsptwx said: Yeah, still having difficulty getting to some of the heaviest hit areas. That’s why I’d refrain from speculating on strength yet. I doubt we’ve seen pictures from the worst affected areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo762 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Everything I’ve seen looked like widespread EF2/3 caliber damage. But I’d venture to bet there is some area(s) with worse damage that would warrant a higher EF-rating. That tends to happen frequently with these type of events. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLarsen34 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I will say, the fact that we are several hours removed from the tornado and there are still no reports of fatalities is very encouraging. This looked like a literal worst case scenario last night. This tornado emergency population stat HAS to be one of the highest ever right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLarsen34 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Just now, jojo762 said: Everything I’ve seen looked like widespread EF2/3 caliber damage. But I’d venture to bet there is some area(s) with worse damage that would warrant a higher EF-rating. That tends to happen frequently with these type of events. Exactly. With the exception of a few like Hackleburg/Phil Campbell, most violent tornadoes produce EF4-5 damage in very small areas during their life cycle. Things get even more complicated when one hits a highly populated area. I believe it took a few weeks before Joplin was officially rated an EF5, though that damage was well beyond anything we’ve so far out of Dayton (fortunately). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Hoosier was right to quash some of the downright insane talk of how deadly it'd be last night....extremely violent tornadoes are rare and maybe(hopefully) this one was not on that caliber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLarsen34 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Wmsptwx said: Hoosier was right to quash some of the downright insane talk of how deadly it'd be last night....extremely violent tornadoes are rare and maybe(hopefully) this one was not on that caliber. It wasn’t insane to say it last night. Velocity couplet and depth of the CC drop suggested it was at least EF4 intensity. Given how little lead time there was to this event (outlook wise), the fact that it was a holiday, and that the area was heavily populated, it could have been worse. I agree violent tornadoes are extremely rare, but everything in the radar presentation suggested a pretty high likelihood this was one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLarsen34 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 minute ago, DanLarsen34 said: It wasn’t insane to say it last night. Velocity couplet and depth of the CC drop suggested it was at least EF4 intensity. Given how little lead time there was to this event (outlook wise), the fact that it was a holiday, and that the area was heavily populated, it could have been worse. I agree violent tornadoes are extremely rare, but everything in the radar presentation suggested a pretty high likelihood this was one. I should add: the fatality part I agree with. High fatality tornadoes are very rare, even in a violent tornado situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Just now, DanLarsen34 said: I should add: the fatality part I agree with. High fatality tornadoes are very rare, even in a violent tornado situation. Exactly, think we mainly agree on this. Lee County this year was rare example of worst case situations that lead to high fatalities (trailer/modular homes and tornado moving extremely fast). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, CoachLB said: From Celina. This guy posted around a 100 pics on FB. Lima news. It would take some incredible winds to take down those homes. Those are extremely well built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLarsen34 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Just now, Wmsptwx said: Exactly, think we mainly agree on this. Lee County this year was rare example of worst case situations that lead to high fatalities (trailer/modular homes and tornado moving extremely fast). We do. It’s almost always structures like that getting hit that lead to high fatalities, though even then it takes a violent one to usually get there. With better built structures, like what it appears we have here, it takes an exceptionally violent tornado (High-end EF4 or EF5), to cause similar or worse casualty rates. Early reports of fatalities here would have indicated to me that we were dealing with a potential EF5 before seeing the actual damage. Since we aren’t, that would tend to suggest high-end EF3 to EF4. Of course, there’s still search and rescue going on, so there’s a distinct possibility that we haven’t learned of some yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvsnow Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Iconic Hara Arena in Dayton....where the Rolling Stones once played......now no more. It had been closed for years anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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