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2 hours ago, wxeyeNH said:

In other snow/mountain/weather news.... 

I follow the climbing season on Mt Everest.  They have a short window each May that is good for summiting.   Not as cold as winter and before  Monsoon season that brings big snows.  Because the mountain is 29,029 feet in elevation the jet stream winds are a big factor.  This year it sat over the mountain for much of the month so the window of good days was pretty minimal.  This week Wednesday and Thursday were in one of those windows.  I guess about 800 permits were issued and many people all at once tried for the summit creating a traffic jam.  Several people died because it took so long to get up and down the last leg.  Incredible picture of the traffic jam.  

Everest traffic jam.jpg

Jesus, what a cluster. I wonder what percentage of those people are rich neophytes getting dragged to the top by a sherpa.

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Also, I would put Killian Jornet's single day summit of Everest from base camp to summit to base camp without supplemental oxygen solidly in the pantheon of greatest athletic feats of all time. Then he did it again a week later. 

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1 hour ago, Hoth said:

Also, I would put Killian Jornet's single day summit of Everest from base camp to summit to base camp without supplemental oxygen solidly in the pantheon of greatest athletic feats of all time. Then he did it again a week later. 

Wow that is absolutely incredible.  

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There was the guy that rode his bicycle over from Sweden, waited for weather to attempt Everest, got within a few hundred yards of the summit on his one chance, realized he didn't have time to get there and get back down so he turned back, returned to camp and got on his bike and rode home.

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37 minutes ago, Tom12309 said:

There was the guy that rode his bicycle over from Sweden, waited for weather to attempt Everest, got within a few hundred yards of the summit on his one chance, realized he didn't have time to get there and get back down so he turned back, returned to camp and got on his bike and rode home.

Smart guy. A lot of people would've tempted fate and likely end up a permanent fixture on the mountain.

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Just to get to base camp is a bit of a feat itself.  Fly to Katmandu.  Take a puddle jumper to one of the most dangerous airports in the world,  Lukla.  One way dead end runway at 9300 feet.  About a week overland trek to basecamp at 17,600 feet.  Have to acclimate to the elevation.  Cost $40K to $60K to climb Everest with sherpas lugging all your gear.  Almost no one climbs Everest without fixed ropes going in first which are done by sherpa teams.  One of my wishes is to just see Everest.  12,000 relief mountain puts our New England hills to shame.

There is another option and that is to climb from the China side.  Bit more technical but I think easier access 

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16 minutes ago, wxeyeNH said:

Just to get to base camp is a bit of a feat itself.  Fly to Katmandu.  Take a puddle jumper to one of the most dangerous airports in the world,  Lukla.  One way dead end runway at 9300 feet.  About a week overland trek to basecamp at 17,600 feet.  Have to acclimate to the elevation.  Cost $40K to $60K to climb Everest with sherpas lugging all your gear.  Almost no one climbs Everest without fixed ropes going in first which are done by sherpa teams.  One of my wishes is to just see Everest.  12,000 relief mountain puts our New England hills to shame.

There is another option and that is to climb from the China side.  Bit more technical but I think easier access 

Death toll is now 10, sounds like fun.

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2 hours ago, Ginx snewx said:

Death toll is now 10, sounds like fun.

Read up on the treatment of these sherpas. Paid like dog sh*t, and have no choice to do this work as it’s really the only work available to them. Its a selfish bucket list item to rich adventure seekers.

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Read up on the treatment of these sherpas. Paid like dog sh*t, and have no choice to do this work as it’s really the only work available to them. Its a selfish bucket list item to rich adventure seekers.

Yeah and if it wasn’t for these sherpas a fraction of the people would be summiting.

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4 hours ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Read up on the treatment of these sherpas. Paid like dog sh*t, and have no choice to do this work as it’s really the only work available to them. Its a selfish bucket list item to rich adventure seekers.

I'm not going to moralize against people who climb Everest. Instead of boycotting the idea, maybe the sherpas should be tipped nicely. Otherwise they may not have any work at all.

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4 hours ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Read up on the treatment of these sherpas. Paid like dog sh*t, and have no choice to do this work as it’s really the only work available to them. Its a selfish bucket list item to rich adventure seekers.

It's gotten a lot better recently.  Many of them are the most wealthy people in their communities.  Average annual income in Nepal is $700.  The average Sherpa makes $5,000 in two months.  However, it's crap when compared to the companies that charge roughly $65,000 for a trip to Everest.

I've read a lot about them and it's actually the Nepal government that seems to really treat them like shit.  A few years ago when 12 Sherpas died in an avalanche, the government only gave their families something like $400...when it pulled in nearly $4 million in climbing fees.  The government makes so much money off the Everest tourism scene but doesn't want to protect and take care of the Sherpa's.  Without those Sherpa's no one makes any money because they are the ones that fix the routes.

I honestly don't get all the hate on climbing Everest, though it is easy to hate rich people these days, ha.  I mean, there are so many tourism spots around the world where westerners vacation that the locals are treated like shit.  Hell even most of the Caribbean is a good example of that.  On Everest though it isn't as much selfish rich adventure seekers as I think I said elsewhere, a large portion of the people climbing now are doing so as fundraisers or to raise awareness for a cause.  Their fees are paid for by sponsorships or donations.  

 

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On 5/21/2019 at 9:58 AM, tamarack said:

Reminds me of when we moved from NNJ to BGR on 1/23/73, anticipating big snowstorms.  Dec. 1972 remains their snowiest on record for that month so there was a good pack, but our 1st week in Maine was a thaw.  Had a nice 8" dump in late Jan, followed 2 days later by 50° RA that wiped it out completely, and winter was essentially done though we had a 3-day pastefest in late Feb, 9" total while never being more than 4" deep.  Then in 73-74 we failed to even approach a 6" storm until one on the equinox, and BGR was contenting for its least snowy winter on record until early April brought a 9" powder event.  Only in Dec '75 did we get a double digit wintry storm.  Moved to Ft. Kent on 1/1/76, and though we had over 90" in Jan-Feb-Mar there wasn't a storm larger than 8".  Not until 76-77 did we see "real" Maine snow.

Ironically, the best period for big storms I've experienced was in NJ.  From 3/56 thru 2/61 we had 7 storms in the 18-24" range; nothing I've seen/shoveled since then has approached that super-thump period.

Kinda weird and surprising to me. I would think the reason for that is maybe because coastal nor'easters would blow their load too far south of you but just in the right spot for NNJ-NYC-BOS

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6 hours ago, BombsAway1288 said:

Kinda weird and surprising to me. I would think the reason for that is maybe because coastal nor'easters would blow their load too far south of you but just in the right spot for NNJ-NYC-BOS

A lot of Miller As and hybrids do that, which is why the mid-Atlantic competes well with SNE when it comes to the top storms on record. Baltimore's top 10 list looks pretty good.

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Sort of a weird question... but here it goes.

On my central air unit... air is on and coming out of vents in house... but compressor or fan is not spinning on the Unit outside of the house.

It didn’t appear anything was tripped but I turned AC off... reset the breaker, and turned unit back on. At that point.. fan on outside unit was spinning.

Is this supposed to be spinning whenever air is blowing inside? And if it is, what could be causing the fan to not spin, but air still being distributed through the house

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Just now, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Sort of a weird question... but here it goes.

On my central air unit... air is on and coming out of vents in house... but compressor or fan is not spinning on the Unit outside of the house.

It didn’t appear anything was tripped but I turned AC off... reset the breaker, and turned unit back on. At that point.. fan on outside unit was spinning.

Is this supposed to be spinning whenever air is blowing inside? And if it is, what could be causing the fan to not spin, but air still being distributed through the house

You may have tripped the thermostats.  Happened at my office from messing with the override too much

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Thanks to all who paid the ultimate price for freedom. We can never repay or be grateful enough so we honor, remember. and respect.  Hope everyone enjoys the COC weather on Memorial Day.!!

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23 minutes ago, CTValleySnowMan said:

Thanks to all who paid the ultimate price for freedom. We can never repay or be grateful enough so we honor, remember. and respect.  Hope everyone enjoys the COC weather on Memorial Day.!!

Well said. 

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We will be visiting the graves of my wife’s father (WWII vet) and uncle at the veteran’s cemetery in Winchendon, MA.  Neither died while serving. Actually, I don’t personally have a connection to anyone who died in service, but I certainly want to pay my respect to those who did.

The cemetery is a truly remarkable place.  Serene and chilling, and a somber reminder of those who have paid the ultimate price.

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16 hours ago, Fozz said:

A lot of Miller As and hybrids do that, which is why the mid-Atlantic competes well with SNE when it comes to the top storms on record. Baltimore's top 10 list looks pretty good.

BWI's top 10 looks anomalously good.  However, #1 storms are amazingly similar along I-95 from DCA to HUL, with only PHI and PWM not in the 27-29" range.  (And IMO the 31.9" of Feb '13 in PWM was a product of measurement, as their depth rose a lot less than 32".)

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Got the pool cover off and cleaned out the majority of leaves and debris. Hooked up the filter system and pump, etc. shocked it, added water.

First time not hiring the dude to open the pool and it went pretty well.  Still need to adjust the levels a bit and let the filter do its thing, plus order a couple of compression fittings that disappeared.   Saved a couple of hundred bucks.

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I went to a conference in Dayton about 11 years ago.  Tornado warnings on 3 of the 5 days.

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On 5/24/2019 at 4:46 PM, wxeyeNH said:

In other snow/mountain/weather news.... 

I follow the climbing season on Mt Everest.  They have a short window each May that is good for summiting.   Not as cold as winter and before  Monsoon season that brings big snows.  Because the mountain is 29,029 feet in elevation the jet stream winds are a big factor.  This year it sat over the mountain for much of the month so the window of good days was pretty minimal.  This week Wednesday and Thursday were in one of those windows.  I guess about 800 permits were issued and many people all at once tried for the summit creating a traffic jam.  Several people died because it took so long to get up and down the last leg.  Incredible picture of the traffic jam.  

Everest traffic jam.jpg

WTF?
That is awful.  Not even a special, one of a kind feat anymore.  Everyone with modern tech outfitting, and a few cans of Oxygen can make it up (as long as they have help a good part of the way).  I can't imagine what the trash situation is like there now.  

Sorry about the deaths...or am I?

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On ‎5‎/‎26‎/‎2019 at 3:53 PM, BombsAway1288 said:

Kinda weird and surprising to me. I would think the reason for that is maybe because coastal nor'easters would blow their load too far south of you but just in the right spot for NNJ-NYC-BOS

Happens that way sometimes, especially with Miller A's, as already noted.  However, that 5-year period was very anomalous.  My first 5 winters at that home (50-51 thru 54-55) never saw a double-digit storm, and the 16 winters after 60-61 had only a single 18", on Feb. 9-10, 1969, though Jan. 12-13, 1964 was close.

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On 5/26/2019 at 3:53 PM, BombsAway1288 said:

Kinda weird and surprising to me. I would think the reason for that is maybe because coastal nor'easters would blow their load too far south of you but just in the right spot for NNJ-NYC-BOS

That's the exact reason in many instances, We are left up here with an occluded system or they are moving off to the ENE when they gain enough lat to affect us up here, That's why we prefer Miller B's.

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