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Damage In Tolland

Heavy heavy lawn thread 2019

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26 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

I asked him the same question.  I don't think he knows specifically.  I can't imagine seeing surface fertilizer impacting a subsurface well.  If I had to guess it's over 100' down.  He's surrounded by about 20 houses and he's in a rural area.  Just to his west is the vast expanse of the Hockomock Swamp.

Bigfoot.

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3 hours ago, S&P said:

1st cut sunday

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Unbelievable to me that people use the amount of chemicals needed to produce that lawn with a body of water that close to their property.  Completely reckless.

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I went to buy a 50 lb bag of 19-19-19 at the farm supply store the other day, and it felt like I was buying contraband fresh off the boat from Colombia. Had to ask for it by name, go in the back room, and promise the guy I wans't using it on my lawn before he would sell it to me... apparently it's illegal here to broadcast ferts containing phosphorous on lawns. Looked into it a little further and the exception was if you're starting a new lawn from scratch, or can prove to the state of NY via repeated soil tests that you're below a certain threshold of P. Pretty intense.

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2 hours ago, Juliancolton said:

I went to buy a 50 lb bag of 19-19-19 at the farm supply store the other day, and it felt like I was buying contraband fresh off the boat from Colombia. Had to ask for it by name, go in the back room, and promise the guy I wans't using it on my lawn before he would sell it to me... apparently it's illegal here to broadcast ferts containing phosphorous on lawns. Looked into it a little further and the exception was if you're starting a new lawn from scratch, or can prove to the state of NY via repeated soil tests that you're below a certain threshold of P. Pretty intense.

Lesco?

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4 hours ago, Juliancolton said:

I went to buy a 50 lb bag of 19-19-19 at the farm supply store the other day, and it felt like I was buying contraband fresh off the boat from Colombia. Had to ask for it by name, go in the back room, and promise the guy I wans't using it on my lawn before he would sell it to me... apparently it's illegal here to broadcast ferts containing phosphorous on lawns. Looked into it a little further and the exception was if you're starting a new lawn from scratch, or can prove to the state of NY via repeated soil tests that you're below a certain threshold of P. Pretty intense.

Yeah, NYS banned phosphorous in lawn fertilizer a few years ago now so if you buy Lesco in NYS is doesn't include it.   Edit:  NYS banned it starting in 2012.

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On 4/13/2019 at 1:42 PM, Damage In Tolland said:

Black mulch time of year. 20 bags done. Need to buy 20 more. $10 for 5 bags at Lowe’s 

You should have just got a load full in your pick up truck for 20 bucks.

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2 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

You should have just got a load full in your pick up truck for 20 bucks.

Think about the time spent having to clean it afterwards. 

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5 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

You should have just got a load full in your pick up truck for 20 bucks.

Can’t fit enough and pain in azz to shovel, scoop.. and super time consuming 

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35 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Can’t fit enough and pain in azz to shovel, scoop.. and super time consuming 

Understood, but you probably can fit 100 bags equivalent 

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2 hours ago, backedgeapproaching said:

Lesco makes ferts with phosphorous. They also make them without too.

I didn't think they could anymore, I guess so?

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47 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I didn't think they could anymore, I guess so?

You may be right and as Julian said in NY he was having trouble. Seems some states have the ban. Most Starter Fertilizers have a pretty high phosphorus count as its important in establishing a new lawn. They are normally like 18-24-12 or something in that range. The middle number(phosphorous) is normally 24 or 25 or so. 

I havent used phosphorous since 2009 when I redid my while lawn from scratch so I haven't really had the need for phosphorus in fert, so guess things have gotten strict since then. I do mostly organic now if I can, but will do some synthetic Nitrogen drops in the fall.

 

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2 hours ago, IrishRob17 said:

Yeah, NYS banned phosphorous in lawn fertilizer a few years ago now so if you buy Lesco in NYS is doesn't include it.   Edit:  NYS banned it starting in 2012.

Yea, didn't realize some states banned it. I mean it makes sense, there is no need to apply it unless you soil is deficient or your starting  a new lawn from scratch. And if you have a soil test that proves your low in P, then you can use it, even in the banned states.

 

 

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I’m getting the itch to seed some areas but I know it will torch. I just don’t want it to look bad all summer, but I may not have a choice. 

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On 4/15/2019 at 9:06 AM, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

Look at you kid. Went from ashy to classy in a blink of an eye. Congrats.

Ha thanks man. Been kind of a crazy year... but sometimes things just work out I guess.

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1 hour ago, CoastalWx said:

I’m getting the itch to seed some areas but I know it will torch. I just don’t want it to look bad all summer, but I may not have a choice. 

I’m throwing down like 4-6” of loam and am going to seed the shit out of it and see what happens. 

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13 hours ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

I’m throwing down like 4-6” of loam and am going to seed the shit out of it and see what happens. 

make sure you have a solid plan for watering that grass seed, otherwise it will be a waste of time and money. 

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11 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Mulch >>> rocks 

I just mulch around decorative trees and plants to retain moisture but rocks are much more efficient and last way longer. Smarter choice and looks better too. 

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11 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

I just mulch around decorative trees and plants to retain moisture but rocks are much more efficient and last way longer. Smarter choice and looks better too. 

Last longer sure. The rest though meh. Personal preference 

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25 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Last longer sure. The rest though meh. Personal preference 

Preference, sure. I have too much area to have to scrape off old and lay down new mulch every season. 

Working on the front now with tree planting next week.

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18 hours ago, backedgeapproaching said:

You may be right and as Julian said in NY he was having trouble. Seems some states have the ban. Most Starter Fertilizers have a pretty high phosphorus count as its important in establishing a new lawn. They are normally like 18-24-12 or something in that range. The middle number(phosphorous) is normally 24 or 25 or so. 

I havent used phosphorous since 2009 when I redid my while lawn from scratch so I haven't really had the need for phosphorus in fert, so guess things have gotten strict since then. I do mostly organic now if I can, but will do some synthetic Nitrogen drops in the fall.

 

I just saw it today. I skipped that and just doing a preemergent with fert. 

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