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TN valley heavy rain/flooding week of whenever

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WBIR reporting 3.08 inches since midnight (First creek watershed). Janetjanet, we may indeed make a run at the record. Just looking at pictures on WBIR and it looks like parts of first creek are already flooding some parking lots on Broadway. Cars stuck in parking lots with rising water, reports of a road "giving way" and a fire truck sinking into the creek. 

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Don't think TVA, or anybody for that matter, expected this..the levels of the TN river are spiking up much faster then the gradual increase over the next few days

I can only imagine what this is doing the the tributary lakes

This is what i was cocerned with for Lake cumberland today...but they are only getting sideswiped 

 

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Here is a partial picture of what my front yard looks like this morning.  The pond does not hold water anymore and is empty 10 months a year so that gives you an idea of how much rain we have received here in west tn.

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2 hours ago, Holston_River_Rambler said:

Not only is I 40 closed now, but also 441 Newfound Gap:

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No explanation that I can find on the NP website or GSMNP road specific twitter account. 

 

I would presume a rock or mudslide across the highway in the park.

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3 minutes ago, Indystorm said:

I would presume a rock or mudslide across the highway in the park.

That's what I would think as well, but no update. Unusual since the folks who handle that account are very quick to provide information. 

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I can't get over how heavy the rain is at times. Just had summer thunderstorm precip rates for about 10 minutes. It does that let's up a little then right back to it. I'm now past 3" since midnight.

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Same here @ShawnEastTN. I'm about to venture out again to look at First Creek. I live about 200 yards from it and it was already overflowing about half a mile up from my house. Actually concerned about what I see as a non 0 chance I will have to evacuate if the training sets up just right. 

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...FLASH FLOOD EMERGENCY FOR KNOXVILLE TENNESSEE AND GREATER KNOX
COUNTY...
The National Weather Service in Morristown has issued a

* Flash Flood Warning for...
Knox County in east Tennessee...

* Until 130 PM EST.

* At 1036 AM EST, emergency management reported heavy rain across
the warned area. Up to 3 inches of rain have already fallen over
the last 3 to 4 hours with an additional 1 to 2 inches possible
over the next 2 hours. Flash flooding is already occurring.
This is a FLASH FLOOD EMERGENCY for Knoxville. This is a
PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION. SEEK HIGHER GROUND NOW!

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18 minutes ago, janetjanet998 said:

a flash flood warning should have been issued long ago

FFW and Emergency are different things.  The warning has been in place officially since 7:16 this morning.

I have some videos, will post later when they've downloaded.  It's getting worse so these may be tame by the time they upload.  Turkey Creek has breached the bridge at Kingston Pike.  The road is impassable as it is a river

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3 minutes ago, Save the itchy algae! said:

FFW and Emergency are different things.  The warning has been in place officially since 7:16 this morning.

no there was only an flood warning...not a flash flood warning..a don't thunk an Areal Flood Warning  is "toned" out 

usually there is a flash flood warning issued ...then when things get extreme a "Flash flood emergency"

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First Creek, upstream from where I'm closest to it, but about half a mile from my house:

 Pics below from within half a mileof my house. The one next to the old industrial building is Standard Knitting Mill, about 200 yards from my house. I think I have about 5 feet, before it over flows. 

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2 minutes ago, janetjanet998 said:

no there was only an advisory ....

usually there is a flood warning issued ...then when things get extreme a "Flash flood emergency"

Not correct.  Maybe you should stick to your area.  Things are 'extreme' by the way.

Flood Warning
National Weather Service Morristown TN
718 AM EST SAT FEB 23 2019

TNC001-009-057-089-093-105-129-145-155-231815-
/O.NEW.KMRX.FA.W.0014.190223T1218Z-190223T1815Z/
/00000.0.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/
Morgan TN-Loudon TN-Knox TN-Anderson TN-Blount TN-Jefferson TN-
Grainger TN-Sevier TN-Roane TN-
718 AM EST SAT FEB 23 2019

The National Weather Service in Morristown has issued a

* Flood Warning for...
  Southeastern Morgan County in east Tennessee...
  Loudon County in east Tennessee...
  Knox County in east Tennessee...
  Southern Anderson County in east Tennessee...
  Northern Blount County in east Tennessee...
  Jefferson County in east Tennessee...
  Southwestern Grainger County in east Tennessee...
  Northwestern Sevier County in east Tennessee...
  Roane County in east Tennessee...

* Until 115 PM EST.

* At 717 AM EST, Doppler radar indicated heavy rain that will cause
  flooding. Up to three inches of rain has already fallen.

* Some locations that will experience flooding include...
  Knoxville, Oak Ridge, Maryville, Sevierville, Clinton, Lenoir City,
  Alcoa, Jefferson City, Kingston, Rockwood, Loudon, Dandridge,
  Rutledge, Farragut, Fairview, Oliver Springs, Louisville, White
  Pine, Plainview and New Market.

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Two notes, FWIW.

 

1) There appears to be westerly forcing pushing some of the training cells in middle TN more eastward. This is visible on KHTX. Watch the push around the 50nmi band. Pure conjecture without the aid of a sounding: flow aloft may be more from the west than south, pushing the higher-topped convection east while flow in the lower levels pushes more north. Just a thought. https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/nexrad/index.php?type=HTX-N0Q-0-6

2) Not sure I see much opportunity for clearing across the moderate risk area. That said, that's some nice convection moving into the Arklatex... https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/exper/?parms=regional-southeast-truecolor-24-1-100-1&checked=map&colorbar=undefined

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From what I can make out this firetruck is near Kroger in Ft. City. 
You are correct. That whole area around Kroger and McDonald's is flooded. And the car repair place at Highland and Broadway. There's a creek that runs through there, but can't recall the name of it at the moment 344dfd0dad263213a1640ee2d1f5a36a.jpgb763ee6a044ddb887134be7e4367884b.jpg

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was there an emergency toned out alert on on the EBS?? or not

that is why the other poster said he has never seen and Areal Flood Warning  go straight to a PDS flash flood warning..there should have been a "normal" flash flood warning issued in between ...you know when cars were getting strandard and fire trucks sinking

 

anyway stay safe

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4 minutes ago, Save the itchy algae! said:

Not correct.  Maybe you should stick to your area.  Things are 'extreme' by the way.

Easy, dude. @janetjanet998 has been instrumental in flood coverage since this risk first presented itself. Also, we don't "stick to areas" here.

The warning you referred to is an areal flood warning. Not the same as a Flash Flood Warning, and certainly not given the same priority. FFWs trigger EAS. 

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