TalcottWx Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: I don't know any mets who would purposefully forecast incorrect snowfall amounts for ratings. Credibility matters too. I could see putting out some prelim snowfall totals to drive interest, but you want to try and make them accurate as possible. I don't intend to put words and anyone's mouth, but read between the lines. When I worked at a local TV station, it was strictly sports. The talent doesn't choose the topics, or graphics, a lot of the times. The producers and behind the scene guys do. I can't say the same for other industries, but I know it was a frustration for sports talent when they had to talk about things they didn't want to, or push story lines that weren't necessarily theirs. I have no idea how it works in weather, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: I don't know any mets who would purposefully forecast incorrect snowfall amounts for ratings. Credibility matters too. I could see putting out some prelim snowfall totals to drive interest, but you want to try and make them accurate as possible. And its crap like this that gets posted on social media that someone photoshops and there are ones out there that are naive enough to actually believe it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Meanwhile, the 18Z NAM looks interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 A tic or two slower from what i see from 12z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WthrJunkyME Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, dryslot said: And its crap like this that gets posted on social media that someone photoshops and there are ones out there that are naive enough to actually believe it. Whoa, you might even take it away from here too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Yeah I agree. Any mid level fronto bands will Punch better snow growth too. I could see a wide swath of 12-18". 13-15:1 ratios on 1" QPF. But I bet any 700-850mb frontogenesis in NNE gets up to 20:1 ratios. Wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: I don't know any mets who would purposefully forecast incorrect snowfall amounts for ratings. Credibility matters too. I could see putting out some prelim snowfall totals to drive interest, but you want to try and make them accurate as possible. Do you know any mets at TWC? They certainly knew there was less than a 1 percent chance of parts of the area receiving 3+ feet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, dryslot said: A tic or two slower from what i see from 12z. Heights are just a hair higher over the northeast though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, PWMan said: I can't help but think that's one reason some outlets put out those aggressive maps: they know people are going to copy/paste and send them around to their family and friends. Obviously that's not a motivation for NWS, but I can't help but think that it factors into the local news stations' thinking. Weather is one of the few reasons many people watch local programming anymore. But does one channel forecsating more than another really driver more people to watch that channel? I know a lot of snow haters here that would actually tune into the channel reporting less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, dryslot said: And its crap like this that gets posted on social media that someone photoshops and there are ones out there that are naive enough to actually believe it. Is that the 18z NAM? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 whatever ... leave it up there. anyone that thinks that's real deserves it - 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BombsAway1288 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: There is a difference being consistently wrong and starting out with a high total and scaling back. Happens all the time. The general public is happier when snow totals verify lower than forecasted as oppose to higher than forecasted. I don't think Harvey was putting out those numbers yesterday for a ratings boost. I think he was legitimately thinking that's how it's going to play out. He's one of the best and most respected in Boston. Judging by your past posts, you seem to have some sort of agenda when it comes to TV stations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBinStoughton Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, wxextreme said: The Northeast Regional Climate Center released this graphic earlier this month showing the Dec 1 - Jan 15 departures from normal showing a slight deviation from normal temperatures. Love that little 4+ right over me. I’ve felt every bit of it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Wait and see Ha I tip my hat to you if the ratios do work out. You told me days ago and I tried to fight it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 29 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: The quest for ratings factors in. All of the TV news stations are well aware of what their competition is forecasting for snow totals. Even in less competitive markets people at the station are well aware that more people are going to watch the broadcast if the forecast is for 18-24 as opposed to 8-12. At one time it cost more to place a commercial leading into or coming out of the weather segment. The higher the ratings for that segment means the more money that can be charged. I'm not sure if that is still the case or not. leading into the weather portion of the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Greg said: Meanwhile, the 18Z NAM looks interesting. I just picture you hitting refresh while breathing into a paper bag. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Just now, powderfreak said: Ha I tip my hat to you if the ratios do work out. You told me days ago and I tried to fight it. So far no one has been down for a 10 count so all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuildingScienceWx Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: Heights are just a hair higher over the northeast though. Agree. Thicknesses were lower. Mostly due to 850 level trending south between hours 24 and 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Nammy virtually unchanged at 850mb thru 42h. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 3-5” in the Taunton area is my call. Then some sleet, maybe some brief ice, and rain. Should be a net gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Looks pretty ice/sleet in the SE MA, RI and CT area on that 18z Nam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Just now, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: 3-5” in the Taunton area is my call. Then some sleet, maybe some brief ice, and rain. Should be a net gain. should? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Just now, JC-CT said: should? Will be... I think snow will be less than impressive here and we usually get just warm enough to avoid real ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxextreme Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 18Z NAM is bringing more sleet over Northern MA, which is interesting. I'd be more apt to say with this profile that it would likely be switching back and forth. There will be some fine details needed to be worked out before I start making definitive yes all snow or mixing in my neck of the woods (north of Fitchburg, MA). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWMan Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: But does one channel forecsating more than another really driver more people to watch that channel? I know a lot of snow haters here that would actually tune into the channel reporting less. Not to belabor this when people who know more than me are actually engaging in meteorological analysis, but my take on this is that there's perceived to be little down-side in hyping these storms: snow-lovers will get excited and will want to watch more (while forwarding the maps to other snow enthusiasts), and snow-haters will forward the maps around and kvetch about how much winter sucks in Maine. As for the latter, complaining about the weather is a leading pastime here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, CT Rain said: That kids a hoot nanny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, sbos_wx said: I don't intend to put words and anyone's mouth, but read between the lines. When I worked at a local TV station, it was strictly sports. The talent doesn't choose the topics, or graphics, a lot of the times. The producers and behind the scene guys do. I can't say the same for other industries, but I know it was a frustration for sports talent when they had to talk about things they didn't want to, or push story lines that weren't necessarily theirs. I have no idea how it works in weather, but... I have known a few people who have worked in TV/radio and they all had the same gripe regarding producers and other behind the scenes employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 12-18" may be to low after this 18z Nam run.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: That kids a hoot nanny Are your arms tired from patting yourself on the back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Great Snow 1717 said: And to think TWC had 3+ feet for part of the area. They were either going for ratings, or need to hire new mets...one or the other..its that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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