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Just now, NJwx85 said:

You have a band of steady rain coming that runs roughly from the City down to Atlantic City currently with some embedded heavier downpours over the NJ coast. Going to be at least another 2-3 hours before it's over.

probably will crack 2 inches when all said and done.   an inch last Sunday so 3 inches in 5 days-the wet year of 2018 rolls on....

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Just now, Brian5671 said:

probably will crack 2 inches when all said and done.   an inch last Sunday so 3 inches in 5 days-the wet year of 2018 rolls on....

That's why this storm is causing so much flooding. It's really been no more than a lot of our recent storms but because we went into it with such high reservoir levels and because the ground has been saturated for quite some time the river system was quite susceptible. 

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18 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Could you imagine this happening with a snowstorm lol? It would be a repeat of the Jan 2015 storm where both the NAM and EURO were saying we were going to get 30-40 inches of snow and the 30" totals were out at Orient Pt lol.  We got our 30 incher the following January though :P

 

Nah it would have been 18" as opposed to 2 feet

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Just now, NJwx85 said:

You can't compare this to a snowstorm because the cold air is not capable of holding the type of moisture that we received with this storm. This storm is much more similar to dealing with the remnants of a tropical system that made landfall down South.

So we really might have had that kind of gradient, where the area that got the convective banding could get 24-30 inches of snow and the rest of us got like 8-12"?  That happened in storms like December 2009 and January 2015.

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Just now, NJwx85 said:

Does everyone not remember how frigid it was here almost the last 2 months?

I was just going to say that-we've had numerous mornings here in the teens and thanksgiving day didn't get above 22 degrees during the day.  Everything's dead for sure....LOL-it's not like 11-12 where we rarely went below freezing...

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1 minute ago, Brian5671 said:

I was just going to say that-we've had numerous mornings here in the teens and thanksgiving day didn't get above 22 degrees during the day.  Everything's dead for sure....LOL-it's not like 11-12 where we rarely went below freezing...

I dont think the cold was sustained for long enough, I've seen bugs flying around too.  You need a month of average temps in the 20s.  Especially with all this rain it makes it harder to kill them off.

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Just now, LibertyBell said:

Thats not enough to kill off the bugs though, not when it warms up in between cold periods and we get all this rain.

We're probably going to need something like a monthly average in the 20s.

If that wasn't enough then nothing over the next 2 months will be enough either. 10 weeks from today is March 1st.

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Just now, NJwx85 said:

If that wasn't enough then nothing over the next 2 months will be enough either. 10 weeks from today is March 1st.

Well if we get the kind of January-February period that's being predicted that would be enough.  One month of that, something even halfway between average and how cold February 2015 was would be enough.

 

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56 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

Not sure if this will have anything to do with later for us but the DC area, especially the Western side of town is experiencing quite a bit of thunderstorm activity currently. All of this is currently moving to the NNE.

it could for far northern jersey, but i think a lot of that over the mountains is driven by modest heating under the cold trough. it's getting a boost by the 500mb jet max working its way up the coast, as well. should mostly stay in MD, PA, upstate.

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a lot going on, meteorologically. what's amazing about the new GOES hi-res vis is that you can see synoptic, meso- and microscale processes happening at once. the low sun angle and shadows it creates, thanks to today's solstice, help see what's happening in ~3D.

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Yet another area of rain has developed to the East of the DE and NJ shores and generally moving North. This should impact most of far Eastern NJ, NYC, CT and Long Island this evening. Spotty showers also continue East of DC into Maryland, Southern PA and Delaware, generally headed NNE.

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Select Record High Temperatures for December 21 as of 5:00 pm:

Albany: 62° (old record: 59°, 1957)
Allentown: 64° (old record: 57°, 1957)
Binghamton: 59° (old record: 53°, 2013)
Boston: 65° (old record: 62°, 1957)
Bridgeport: 62° (old record: 60°, 1957)
Concord: 62° (old record: 60°, 1994)
Danbury: 62° (tied record set in 2013)
Hartford: 63° (old record: 60°, 1957)
Islip: 60° (old record: 49°, 1973)
Manchester, NH: 66° (old record: 56°, 2013)
Mount Washington, NH: 43° (old record: 40°, 1967)
New York City-LGA: 62° (old record: 61°, 2011)
Poughkeepsie: 63° (old record: 61°, 1957)
Scranton: 63° (old record: 57°, 1953)
Teterboro: 66° (old record: 63°, 2013)
Westhampton: 60° (old record: 59°, 2012)
White Plains: 62° (old record: 59°, 2011 and 2013)
Worcester: 62° (old record: 58°, 1957 and 1973)

 

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