OceanStWx Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 And it looks like MQE's official data is using a standard rain gauge and snow board, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 25 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: How do they account for SWE without an observer, drifting snow, wind whipped snow. ASOS is great for wind and temps. ASOS SWE sucks. Period. That's why LCD sites generally have paid observers. We need MPM to move to AUG to we can start snow measurement back up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, leo2000 said: Winters are not like they used to be. There was never rain in winter 20 plus years ago. All there was in winter back then was snow. No freezing rain either. lol nice try, pretty sure they have been pretty much all the same since recorded time. People in all realms understand the sine wave, highs and lows. Some emphasize the highs some the lows, some the freezes some the torches, fact is the Earth's climate waxes and wanes like a sine wave. Just how you scale the data is the difference 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: ASOS SWE sucks. Period. That's why LCD sites generally have paid observers. We need MPM to move to AUG to we can start snow measurement back up there. I am up over 72 inches this year, amazing wet year that destroyed the 5 year -20 inch departures in this area, we wax we wane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo2000 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: lol nice try, pretty sure they have been pretty much all the same since recorded time. People in all realms understand the sine wave, highs and lows. Some emphasize the highs some the lows, some the freezes some the torches, fact is the Earth's climate waxes and wanes like a sine wave. Just how you scale the data is the difference Climate Change my friend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazey Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Winters are not like they used to be. There was never rain in winter 20 plus years ago. All there was in winter back then was snow. No freezing rain either. Ahh wut? There were lots of rain events in the 90’s. You probably weren’t even alive back then. Go back to watching your storm. Your getting 6-10. Enjoy cause it’s history next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo2000 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hazey said: Ahh wut? There were lots of rain events in the 90’s. You probably weren’t even alive back then. Go back to watching your storm. Your getting 6-10. Enjoy cause it’s history next week. Were talking about back further then that. My late father told me that. I have to wonder why we always get rainstorms just before Christmas. I remember 15 years ago we had a major snowstorm on Christmas Eve as well as a major snowstorm on Boxing Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: ASOS SWE sucks. Period. That's why LCD sites generally have paid observers. We need MPM to move to AUG to we can start snow measurement back up there. I thought the AWPAGs were a lot better? Especially with the dual wind screens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, dendrite said: I thought the AWPAGs were a lot better? Especially with the dual wind screens? They are, but they still leave something to be desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, leo2000 said: Were talking about back further then that. My late father told me that. Did he have to go to school in 2ft of snow uphill both ways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo2000 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, dendrite said: Did he have to go to school in 2ft of snow uphill both ways? Much more than that. Didn't have school buses back then either had to walk to school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said: Just keep loading up Freak and all of NNE, we need the cover up there for selfish reasons down here Snowing steadily here at home... crappy iPhone pic from a few minutes ago walking the dog on the Rec Path. I know everyone loves the snowy dog walks, lol. Upslope really kicking in this evening... still I'm only thinking 2-3" at home will probably do it. Double or triple it for the mountain. Either way, great snowy winter-vibe of an evening before we deal with the Grinch Storm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Weeklies save winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Snow88 said: Weeklies save winter Unfortunately weeks 3 & 4 have very low accuracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: Unfortunately weeks 3 & 4 have very low accuracy. Multiple well respected Mets love that time period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: Unfortunately weeks 3 & 4 have very low accuracy. Plenty of people are gung ho on winter returning in the 1st week of january. Get some sleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnjohnson Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Hurricane just swept through my town. No more snow for the rest of the season. The GFS model shows significant whippet wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, dmillz25 said: Multiple well respected Mets love that time period Isotherm and Earthlight really love January onward. Snowy winter incoming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, Snow88 said: Isotherm and Earthlight really love January onward. Snowy winter incoming That is a few who I was alluding to 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 32 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: They are, but they still leave something to be desired. I think this is the report I recall reading. Guess I need to put up a tall dual fence around my rain gauge now for maximum accuracy. Maybe put it inside the run? https://www.weather.gov/media/asos/ASOS Implementation/AWPAG Altershield Final Report 08-09 v2.doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, dmillz25 said: That is a few who I was alluding to Sucks to lose this month but don't count out xmas just yet. At least we have March now being snowy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 The EPS did mean out to a SE ridge presentation toward D7-10 fwiw -... I don't know if that reflects in any of their index derivatives .. .but, perhaps backing us into an assumption, they likely agree with the GEFs in this case. Weeklies ... mm, I don't have much experience with those. I've just sort of learned by proximity to others bandying their looks over the years that like every thing else, they are better before they are bad looking from near to far... etc. But Week three and four is beyond this months so, taken for what it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimetree Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Fantasy FV3 is a blizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 We hope weeklies have a clue cuz gefs look bad with the AK a-hole re-establishing itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 23 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: We hope weeklies have a clue cuz gefs look bad with the AK a-hole re-establishing itself. Pattern will get better and we will snow alot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 34 minutes ago, Snow88 said: Pattern will get better and we will snow alot. It can’t get any worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: It can’t get any worse. Please dont ginx it. 2007 I think Boston didnt get its first inch until February. Somewhere around 88 or 89 the entire east coast was brown and muddy all the way up into Canada. It can get so much uglier than what we have now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 43 minutes ago, Snow88 said: Pattern will get better and we will snow alot. idk...I’ve read the GEFS school the ecmwf suite. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Holy fuk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Absolutely LOVE the blizzard on FV3. Of course it just for entertainment purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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