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I got to the mtn at 7:30, when I returned at 2:30 there was another 6” on the car.  It was coming down pretty hard all day.  Mostly small grains but a few times it switched over to medium size flakes.  Definitely 18” maybe up to 2’ up top.  Good thing I had a shovel,in the car.

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Event totals: 14.1” Snow/1.42” L.E.

 

Even with bouts of larger flakes today, the overall accumulation has remained fairly dense and from 6:00 A.M. to 3:00 P.M. it came in with a ratio of 9.4 to 1 (10.7% H2O).

 

Details from the 3:00 P.M. Waterbury observations:

New Snow: 6.0 inches

New Liquid: 0.64 inches

Snow/Water Ratio: 9.4

Snow Density: 10.7% H2O

Temperature: 3.7 F

Sky:  Light Snow (1 to 10 mm flakes)

Snow at the stake: 31.5 inches

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Measured 10.5 here, not as much as expected but VERY heavy stuff. Lots of sleet mixed in. 

On the plus side this stuff skies fantastic, and we are starting to get some really nice depth in the woods. Took this picture of my ski pole this afternoon. 

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No 6 hour clears with this event, I couldn't even find my board when my marker blew over. Driveway was pretty uniform depth wise though 11.5" averaged out-dense stuff. Maybe  more fell and compacted with the IP--who knows. Had some addt fluff this afternoon, so total was 12.7". My plow guy was surprised to see a foot in my driveway, mentioned other spots in town he plowed were less..not sure how much. ALY had I think 13-15" for here after it trended warmer and  north, so pretty close.

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13.6 and counting here, totals were kept down by a few hours of sleet midday.  Best snow all day was around 5 or 5 30 as the wind picked up.

temp down to 3f

Tried to get a base measurement, best I could come up with was 23/24 inches but I am not sure if I was hitting bottom or was hitting an inpenetrable ice layer.

Constant pack since 11/13

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Here is the VT report

VERMONT

...ADDISON COUNTY...
   FERRISBURG            17.0   447 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   2 N FERRISBURG        16.2   438 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   WHITING               16.0  1200 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   MIDDLEBURY            14.2  1205 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   3 NW ROCHESTER        13.0   315 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   VERGENNES             10.3  1104 AM  1/20  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...CALEDONIA COUNTY...
   WALDEN                18.5   320 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   BURKE HOLLOW          15.4   200 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   NEWARK                15.0   630 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   GROTON                14.0   414 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   SAINT JOHNSBURY       13.9   400 PM  1/20  CO-OP OBSERVER          
   2 SW SUTTON           12.7   116 PM  1/20  CO-OP OBSERVER          
   HARDWICK              10.8  1006 AM  1/20  PUBLIC                  

...CHITTENDEN COUNTY...
   SHELBURNE             15.8   230 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   1 NE SOUTH BURLINGTO  14.5   417 PM  1/20  NWS OFFICE              
   1 S ESSEX CENTER      14.4   529 PM  1/20  NWS EMPLOYEE            
   2 SSW MILTON          14.2   456 PM  1/20  NWS EMPLOYEE            
   1 NNW BURLINGTON      14.0   200 PM  1/20  NWS EMPLOYEE            
   COLCHESTER            13.0  1220 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   1 NNE JERICHO         13.0   300 PM  1/20  COCORAHS                
   WINOOSKI              13.0   406 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   2 E SOUTH BURLINGTON  12.9   520 PM  1/20  NWS EMPLOYEE            
   WILLISTON             12.0   330 PM  1/20  COCORAHS                
   1 SW MILTON           12.0   121 PM  1/20  NWS EMPLOYEE            
   2 SW MILTON           12.0   100 PM  1/20  NWS EMPLOYEE            
   2 NW WESTFORD         11.9   434 PM  1/20  NWS EMPLOYEE            
   UNDERHILL             11.8   727 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   1 ENE SOUTH BURLINGT  11.7   100 PM  1/20  NWS EMPLOYEE            
   HUNTINGTON            11.5   300 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   4 NNE UNDERHILL       11.3   131 PM  1/20  NWS EMPLOYEE            
   1 SE CHARLOTTE        11.1  1030 AM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   2 NNW WILLISTON       11.0  1130 AM  1/20  NWS EMPLOYEE            
   JERICHO               11.0  1230 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   1 N BURLINGTON        10.0  1100 AM  1/20  PUBLIC                  

...ESSEX COUNTY...
   ISLAND POND            9.0  1013 AM  1/20  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...FRANKLIN COUNTY...
   ENOSBURG FALLS        16.0   515 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   GEORGIA CENTER        13.0   305 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   SWANTON               12.1   631 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   ST. ALBANS            11.5   407 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   FAIRFIELD             11.0   518 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  

...LAMOILLE COUNTY...
   MORRISVILLE           15.5   215 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  

...ORANGE COUNTY...
   TUNBRIDGE             18.0   523 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   3 SW BRAINTREE        16.0  1000 AM  1/20  COCORAHS                
   WILLIAMSTOWN          15.5   443 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   BRAINTREE             15.0  1055 AM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   2 ESE THETFORD CENTE  11.0   315 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  

...ORLEANS COUNTY...
   4 NNE GREENSBORO      13.2  1235 PM  1/20  COCORAHS                
   ALBANY                10.5  1036 AM  1/20  PUBLIC                  

...RUTLAND COUNTY...
   SUDBURY               18.0   506 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   BRANDON               15.5   505 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   PITTSFORD             15.0   515 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   2 W PAWLET            12.5   423 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   HUBBARDTON            11.0  1100 AM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   RUTLAND               11.0   245 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   CHITTENDEN            10.0  1200 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   IRA                    9.0  1200 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  

...WASHINGTON COUNTY...
   1 SW EAST BARRE       14.9   330 PM  1/20  NWS EMPLOYEE            
   2 WNW WORCESTER       14.8   100 PM  1/20  CO-OP OBSERVER          
   EAST MONTPELIER       14.0   420 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   MARSHFIELD            14.0   305 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   MONTPELIER            13.5  1200 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   WATERBURY CENTER      13.0   717 PM  1/20  TRAINED SPOTTER         
   3 W PUTNAMVILLE       13.0   300 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   E MONTPELIER          12.0  1000 AM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   MORETOWN              11.5  1210 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   2 W WALDEN            11.5  1030 AM  1/20  PUBLIC                  

...WINDSOR COUNTY...
   NORWICH               13.6   649 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   HARTLAND              13.2   525 PM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   1 SE WEST NORWICH     12.0   935 AM  1/20  PUBLIC                  
   1 SW HARTLAND         11.1  1140 AM  1/20  COCORAHS    

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Event totals: 14.3” Snow/1.43” L.E.

 

Details from the 10:00 P.M. Waterbury observations:

New Snow: 0.2 inches

New Liquid: 0.01 inches

Snow/Water Ratio: 20.0

Snow Density: 5.0% H2O

Temperature: -2.6 F

Sky:  Light Snow (1 mm flakes)

Snow at the stake: 31.0 inches

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14.5" storm total.

Some good scenes around town.  Walkways are starting to get that tunnel effect with over two feet on the ground, with a good amount of liquid in that snowpack.

These are from the wait in traffic this morning through town and up the hill.  It then snowed heavily into the middle of the afternoon.

Using the "parked cars" method to show the overall vibe of the storm.

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This evening...

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Event totals: 14.6” Snow/1.46” L.E.

 

Despite some slight ups and downs in the snow ratios, you really can’t hold tighter to 10 to 1 than this event has done at our site – liquid is one tenth of the snow right on to the hundredth of an inch as of this morning.  We’re still getting some snow, and in their AFD the BTV NWS says the lingering snow from the departing storm is expected to last through much of the day.  So the above may not represent the final storm total, but it’s what we’ve got as of this morning.

 

Details from the 6:00 A.M. Waterbury observations:

New Snow: 0.3 inches

New Liquid: 0.03 inches

Snow/Water Ratio: 10.0

Snow Density: 10.0% H2O

Temperature: -5.8 F

Sky:  Light Snow (1 to 2 mm flakes)

Snow at the stake: 31.0 inches

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Here’s the north to south listing of available totals I’ve seen from the Vermont ski areas for Winter Storm Harper using 48 to 72 hour totals or reported storm totals if available.

 

Jay Peak: 24”

Burke: 20”

Smuggler’s Notch: 25”

Stowe: 18”

Bolton Valley: 21”

Mad River Glen: 18”

Sugarbush: 20”

Middlebury: 24”

Suicide Six: 25”

Pico: 20”

Killington: 20”

Okemo: 18”

Bromley: 19”

Magic Mountain: 19”

Stratton: 19”

Mount Snow: 14”

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I was discussing with my wife yesterday about what the snow depth at the Mt. Mansfield Stake might be today based on where it was and the storm report, and figured it would be around the 80 inch mark.  That’s actually right where the latest report came in, which is great for mid to late January.

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It seems like Smuggs has been the Jackpot ski resort this year. I recall seeing storm totals in other events where Smuggs beat out Stowe and Jay. Where exactly is Smuggs? 

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3 minutes ago, #NoPoles said:

It seems like Smuggs has been the Jackpot ski resort this year. I recall seeing storm totals in other events where Smuggs beat out Stowe and Jay. Where exactly is Smuggs? 

Yeah they generally in the past have been pretty spot on with Stowe but this year they've been pretty markedly higher.  Though I think this one could be timing differences.  They have 25" in 4 days which would include the few inches they reported in Friday's "pre" event.  If I total up their actual total from this last storm its somewhere near 20" I think. 

I also think it can be just reporting differences as Stowe has been low-balled all year due to new SOP's put in place... though with Andre and I back looking over it again it has become closer to reality.

I think Stowe's 18" at 3,000ft is spot on accurate.  If you plot all the snowfall totals, most of N.VT is 13-18" and it's pretty darn uniform.  There was no real orographic effect with this, all the forcing was mid-level stuff so it was a very even snowfall.  Not a situation where 3,000ft is going to get 10" more than the valley. 

Like at 4pm yesterday we had 16" at 3,000ft and 14.5" here in Stowe Village.  We rarely see that type of uniformity around here.

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3 hours ago, mreaves said:

Brutal outside. -10/-16 with a wc if -34. Wintry

Hey you were right on the density of this snow.

And it also is why the impacts were so great and while the snowpack/plow piles are so high.

The local CoCoRAHS guy had 13.8" of snow on 1.40" water here.  I tallied 14.5" but that's why shoveling that last night was so hard.... each scoop was well over an inch of water in those 14".

26" of good solid snowpack in the yard this morning.  And it's only January 21st.  We've got two good snow months to go.

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17 minutes ago, #NoPoles said:

Where exactly is Smuggs? 

Both ski areas are back to back...Stowe and Smuggs.  There used to be a groomed run connecting the two of them across Sterling Pond.  You can easily get between the two at the top of Spruce Peak.

They are only separated by a few miles on RT 108 in the summer but in winter with that closed, it takes 45 minutes to drive between them.  It's quicker to just walk.

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So the Mount Mansfield stake depth is at #2 depth all-time for this date. 

Yesterday's 80" is 2nd to only 1968-69's snowpack.  We are back into rarefied territory.

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Friend's posted photos of avalanches yesterday in the Stowe backcountry.  With such a deep snowpack and now a good shot of 1.5" QPF snow load to the slick rain crusts underneath... whoop and slide.

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Event totals: 15.0” Snow/1.50” L.E.

 

Details from the 12:00 P.M. Waterbury observations:

New Snow: 0.4 inches

New Liquid: 0.04 inches

Snow/Water Ratio: 10.0

Snow Density: 10.0% H2O

Temperature: 3.0 F

Sky:  Light Snow (1 to 3 mm flakes)

Snow at the stake: 31.5 inches

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Just now, J.Spin said:

Event totals: 15.0” Snow/1.50” L.E.

 

This event was such a good snowpack builder.  Those numbers right there show it well.  Anytime we can get a widespread 1.25-1.75" QPF event as cold baking powder up this way... definitely over-performed, IMO a bit.  Not the actual snowfall total itself but I expected a slight downward adjustment of QPF... when in fact it was more than the GFS/EURO had been showing I think by a little bit.

 

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7 hours ago, powderfreak said:

So the Mount Mansfield stake depth is at #2 depth all-time for this date. 

Yesterday's 80" is 2nd to only 1968-69's snowpack.  We are back into rarefied territory.

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On that note I’ve got some interesting information from my data set.  With a couple of decent January storms I’ve been wondering if 2018-2019 would be creeping back up on the snowfall pace of seasons such as 2007-2008 and 2008-2009.  This season’s snowfall to date just rolled past 2007-2008 with this storm, and as of today’s noon observations, it has now caught up to dead even with 2008-2009 at 112.4”, which means it’s now tied for the record for snowfall to date.  Snow is still accumulation out there now though, so this season will actually move ahead of 2008-2009 today.  My data set is fairly small at only a dozen years or so, but even over a somewhat longer term, we know 2007-2008 and 2008-2009 are fairly robust snowfall seasons, so that puts this season up there with the big dogs, at least to this point.

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