Solstice Posted January 11 1 minute ago, alex said: How do you measure snow at times like this? If snowed all day but I think we only got a couple of inches (I wrote down 1.5) but honestly, I have no idea. That's based on the grill shelves which I cleared this morning but it's been blowing all over the place. Is there a methodology to get an accurate measurement when it's like this? Use a snowboard. White piece of plywood or anything that is white essentially. Read up here for more https://www.weather.gov/media/coop/Snow_Measurement_Guidelines-2014.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
backedgeapproaching Posted January 11 What a crushing up there..congrats guys. Mini Firehouse into Underhill right now 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginx snewx Posted January 11 1 hour ago, powderfreak said: Haha. The classic evening photos walking to my car at the base of Mansfield. Tonight was on a whole other level. Essentially a White Hurricane at this point. All day long. Gusts of 50-60mph even in the base area with snowfall averaging close to 1"/hr. Another 8-10" seemed to fall during the daylight hours. Truly high-end winter storm stuff. Epicosity 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginx snewx Posted January 11 10 minutes ago, Solstice said: Use a snowboard. White piece of plywood or anything that is white essentially. Read up here for more https://www.weather.gov/media/coop/Snow_Measurement_Guidelines-2014.pdf Think he means in the wind. A snowboard won't do you any good. Take ten measurements in the most undrifted areas and average, of course you need to measure in a cleared area unless you take depth measurements religiously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wxmanmitch Posted January 11 14" two day total and it's still snowing. Clear skies overhead since the flow is blocked, but there is some spillover of the flakes to my spot. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
powderfreak Posted January 11 Decent moisture continues to get wrung out by the Spine. There can be significant downwind drift under the beam on that 40kt jet, just crushing the ski areas. Snowing better than I expected it would tonight at home too. Maybe an 1" in the past 3 hours or so, just a steady fluff. This snow quality is like the tail end of a deformation band in a nor'easter...when its 15F and huge dendrites are floating down, sideways, up, any direction. It takes like 42 flakes to get an inch. But after a good storm, it's a nice topping on the wet stuff from yesterday, that was lighter last night, lightest tonight. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginx snewx Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Decent moisture continues to get wrung out by the Spine. There can be significant downwind drift under the beam on that 40kt jet, just crushing the ski areas. Snowing better than I expected it would tonight at home too. Maybe an 1" in the past 3 hours or so, just a steady fluff. This snow quality is like the tail end of a deformation band in a nor'easter...when its 15F and huge dendrites are floating down, sideways, up, any direction. It takes like 42 flakes to get an inch. But after a good storm, it's a nice topping on the wet stuff from yesterday, that was lighter last night, lightest tonight. Good storm?, your killing me Smalls 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#NoPoles Posted January 11 JSpin with 20inches!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Solstice Posted January 11 33 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Think he means in the wind. A snowboard won't do you any good. Take ten measurements in the most undrifted areas and average, of course you need to measure in a cleared area unless you take depth measurements religiously. ^ I would also suggest to measure in drifted and undrifted areas to get a range of the snowpack. Unless you don't want to posthole. Lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alex Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Solstice said: Use a snowboard. White piece of plywood or anything that is white essentially. Read up here for more https://www.weather.gov/media/coop/Snow_Measurement_Guidelines-2014.pdf That talks about a snowboard but doesnt say what it is or how you build one. I imagine a board would not be good in windy conditions, since snow will just blow off of it. It seems the idea of taking measurements in various spots would be the way to go based on that article, but I need some flat ground level spots to clear... My deck is not a good choice as it gets wind and snow from the roof so it could severely underestimate or overestimate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alex Posted January 11 56 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Think he means in the wind. A snowboard won't do you any good. Take ten measurements in the most undrifted areas and average, of course you need to measure in a cleared area unless you take depth measurements religiously. Just saw this. Makes sense and in line with what I was thinking. The stake would probably be my best option except that it's completely caked at the moment and it would also not account for settling. I'm curious about what it's at... Looks around 2 ft or so from what's left of it. It's a deep pack for sure at this point Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
powderfreak Posted January 11 It's still cranking this evening. The duration is impressive, models hint at this stuff with panel after panel of light QPF. That's the tell-tale sign of a sweet event. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoastalWx Posted January 11 Man you guys got smoked good. That’s awesome. 2’ packs. What a crazy gradient. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alex Posted January 11 24 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Man you guys got smoked good. That’s awesome. 2’ packs. What a crazy gradient. It's great that we've had a decent winter so far in spite of December, and that we managed to maintain a decent pack in spite of the ridiculousness of that month. I do hope you guys get in on the action soon though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dendrite Posted January 11 54 minutes ago, alex said: Just saw this. Makes sense and in line with what I was thinking. The stake would probably be my best option except that it's completely caked at the moment and it would also not account for settling. I'm curious about what it's at... Looks around 2 ft or so from what's left of it. It's a deep pack for sure at this point Snowboard on the ground. jspin can get away with an elevated board since he has little wind, but most of us need to have it on the ground. With every clearing you place it on a new spot on top of the pack so that drifting snow doesn't fill in your previous cleared area. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
powderfreak Posted January 11 41 hours straight of snow obs at the MVL ASOS. The highest visibility during that time has been 6sm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginx snewx Posted January 11 36 minutes ago, powderfreak said: 41 hours straight of snow obs at the MVL ASOS. The highest visibility during that time has been 6sm. Sucks Mansfield was offline all day, I saw a 87 mph gust at 1020 pm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alex Posted January 11 A few pics from the hood 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J.Spin Posted January 11 Event totals: 21.8” Snow/1.61” L.E. Details from the 11:00 P.M. Waterbury observations: New Snow: 1.8 inches New Liquid: 0.05 inches Snow/Water Ratio: 36.0 Snow Density: 2.8% H2O Temperature: 13.5 F Sky: Light Snow (1 to 10 mm flakes) Snow at the stake: 26.0 inches 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J.Spin Posted January 11 Event totals: 22.3” Snow/1.63” L.E. Details from the 6:00 A.M. Waterbury observations: New Snow: 0.5 inches New Liquid: 0.02 inches Snow/Water Ratio: 25.0 Snow Density: 4.0% H2O Temperature: 8.8 F Sky: Light Snow (1 to 3 mm flakes) Snow at the stake: 25.0 inches 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J.Spin Posted January 11 I took a look at 72 hour totals or reported storm totals for areas that have them to get an idea of what went on for the Vermont ski areas. The north to south listing is below: Jay Peak: 27” Burke: 17” Smuggler’s Notch: 38” Bolton Valley: 30” Mad River Glen: 19” Sugarbush: 16” Bromley: 15” Stratton: 10” 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J.Spin Posted January 12 Event totals: 22.5” Snow/1.64” L.E. The clouds have just about cleared out here now and the snow has stopped, so that closes the books on this storm and the numbers above represent the final storm totals. In terms of snowfall, this storm has now taken the top spot for this season at our location, beating out Winter Storm Bruce from the end of November. Details from the 6:00 P.M. Waterbury observations: New Snow: 0.2 inches New Liquid: 0.01 inches Snow/Water Ratio: 20.0 Snow Density: 5.0% H2O Temperature: -1.1 F Sky: Mostly Clear Snow at the stake: 24.0 inches 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alex Posted January 12 Snow done here too. Only 1/2" today Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klw Posted January 12 Maine may or may not want to lock in the 6Z GFS clown map for the day 8 on storm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tamarack Posted January 12 What a totally berserk run!! Marginal RA/SN in N.Maine followed by feet of SN, then 1-2" cold RA (maritime air? Venusian air?) then back to SN. C.Maine has RA changing to 10-20"+, EPO get a 5" rainstorm. If the shutdown goes on much longer/GFS get crazier, NNE will be modeled as either fully glaciated or washed away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
borderwx Posted January 13 Arctic sunset. Had clouds and cold dust flurries up high all day. 13 vs 3 made a world of difference on the ski tour today. Season low this morning at -12 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dendrite Posted January 14 -24F at Errol and -26F at Island Pond this morning. Nothing earth shattering, but some solid winter rad cold. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#NoPoles Posted January 14 I dont care if some weenies cant handle it, I vote for more pics of snow and talk of winter conditions from the CNNE Crew! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wxeyeNH Posted January 14 Today was "Ice In" day at Newfound Lake, 5th largest in the state. Usually Newfound and Winnipesaukee Ice In and Ice Out is about the same 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tamarack Posted January 14 Kennebec re-froze in Augusta over the weekend. Ice had caught in mid-Dec but got blown out by the 12/21 RA. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites