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I'm planning to head up to Northern New England this weekend into early next week, and will most likely be at Wildcat and Mt Snow.

There's some very nice upslope on the latest 3k NAM, with up to 20" on Mt. Washington. But I have a question... in these upslope events, how much can I expect at Wildcat, which seems to be in the shadow of it?

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18 minutes ago, borderwx said:

Pinwheel season begins :)

 

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Snow rollers.  I've only seen them twice, the most abundant being thousands, some 2' or more in diameter, on the snow-covered Kennebec south of Augusta.  Needs light but sticky snow and moderately strong winds.

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5 hours ago, Fozz said:

I'm planning to head up to Northern New England this weekend into early next week, and will most likely be at Wildcat and Mt Snow.

There's some very nice upslope on the latest 3k NAM, with up to 20" on Mt. Washington. But I have a question... in these upslope events, how much can I expect at Wildcat, which seems to be in the shadow of it?

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Most of the snow you see on the 3 km NAM is bogus. If it were real, I'd be up around 350-400" for the season, lol. I'm where those dark blues are in eastern Bennington County.

Maybe the mountains up north including Mt. Washington see some snow showers with a few inches, but I don't think this will be a significant upslope weekend. Wildcat tends to get that NW flow upslope too, so a few inches (but not 20"+) is possible.

Edit: I see you'll be at Mt. Snow too. We don't normally get as much upslope as Wildcat down here, but there could be some light snow showers here too. Not expecting much, if any, accumulation though.

 

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2 hours ago, wxmanmitch said:

Most of the snow you see on the 3 km NAM is bogus. If it were real, I'd be up around 350-400" for the season, lol. I'm where those dark blues are in eastern Bennington County.

Maybe the mountains up north including Mt. Washington see some snow showers with a few inches, but I don't think this will be a significant upslope weekend. Wildcat tends to get that NW flow upslope too, so a few inches (but not 20"+) is possible.

Edit: I see you'll be at Mt. Snow too. We don't normally get as much upslope as Wildcat down here, but there could be some light snow showers here too. Not expecting much, if any, accumulation though.

 

Jay peak has a better chance at 20 than mt Washington 

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3 hours ago, wxmanmitch said:

Most of the snow you see on the 3 km NAM is bogus. If it were real, I'd be up around 350-400" for the season, lol. I'm where those dark blues are in eastern Bennington County.

Maybe the mountains up north including Mt. Washington see some snow showers with a few inches, but I don't think this will be a significant upslope weekend. Wildcat tends to get that NW flow upslope too, so a few inches (but not 20"+) is possible.

Edit: I see you'll be at Mt. Snow too. We don't normally get as much upslope as Wildcat down here, but there could be some light snow showers here too. Not expecting much, if any, accumulation though.

 

Yeah, those little dots of QPF you see on every panel over every topographic area above 2,500ft are false.  I think we've discussed in on the forums as the model interprets the upslope clouds or rime as snow/precip?  It mistakes it somehow...because even in upslope events you'll see it has those unreal bullseyes of like 2.0" QPF when it should be 1.0" (still a lot of QPF but not what it shows).  The 3km NAM/WRF is really the only model that does it like that too.  The HRRR, RGEM, HRDPS, 13km NAM, and other meso-models don't have that flaw of printing ridiculous QPF right over the literal summits.

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4 hours ago, wxmanmitch said:

Most of the snow you see on the 3 km NAM is bogus. If it were real, I'd be up around 350-400" for the season, lol. I'm where those dark blues are in eastern Bennington County.

Maybe the mountains up north including Mt. Washington see some snow showers with a few inches, but I don't think this will be a significant upslope weekend. Wildcat tends to get that NW flow upslope too, so a few inches (but not 20"+) is possible.

Edit: I see you'll be at Mt. Snow too. We don't normally get as much upslope as Wildcat down here, but there could be some light snow showers here too. Not expecting much, if any, accumulation though.

 

Thanks, that’s very good to know. I like the 3k NAM a lot, but those super high numbers on the summits look fishy. Still looking forward to some good skiing on Saturday.

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1 hour ago, borderwx said:

Expected the 40 this morning

Did not expect the lightning show and thunderstorm:o

Some absolute house shakers and lightening here as well with some pretty decent rainfall rates. That will get the kids out of bed this morning..ha.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, backedgeapproaching said:

Some absolute house shakers and lightening here as well with some pretty decent rainfall rates. That will get the kids out of bed this morning..ha.

 

 

The much feared EML strikes again. Better alert Ekster and Banacos to update their paper.

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Some serious snowpack damage yesterday - stake down to 20" - but man the 60s felt amazing. Moderate snow now which just doesn't have the same appeal after a day in the 60s :)

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Some serious snowpack damage yesterday - stake down to 20" - but man the 60s felt amazing. Moderate snow now which just doesn't have the same appeal after a day in the 60s
You know how the snow held up in Jackson? Was thinking of coming up tomorrow to snowshoe around the xcountry area

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Big hit to the pack in elevations. Newbury cocorahs is down to 8”. Lower els are a foot or more. A torched early yesterday and for much longer overnight than the lower els. 

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We’ve had on and off snow much of the morning, but it’s only been the past hour or so that it actually started accumulating as temperatures have come down.  This is the back side snow of Winter Storm Ulmer, which was that impressive bomb cyclone out in the plains.

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In the car heading back from Balt. Looking at the webcam snowpack down to 10". No bare spots showing yet on south facing slopes.  2 days of 75 to near 80F felt amazing on the trip. With the dews yesterday it felt hot.  Glad we have the pack to melt or I would already be whining that we are going to dry out too early this spring.  Jeez I've lived away from cities too long these drivers are nuts.

 

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5 hours ago, Lava Rock said:

You know how the snow held up in Jackson? Was thinking of coming up tomorrow to snowshoe around the xcountry area

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Not sure - haven't been down but they had a lot of snow to start and they tend to stay much colder than the higher elevations, so I imagine they're in pretty good shape

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6 hours ago, Lava Rock said:

You know how the snow held up in Jackson? Was thinking of coming up tomorrow to snowshoe around the xcountry area

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Might be crust over corn by tomorrow morning.

Lost 2" pack yesterday (high in 40s, <0.1" RA) and probably another 2 today (to 34") between sunny low 40s and wind.

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Sugarbush looks like early April. They obviously saved a lot of $$ with the nov-mar pack, but there are bare spots on snowmaking trails after a two day warm up..all .hail king almighty dollar!! Today was ugly even in the groomed stuff. 

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Still about a foot here. I’ll measure it the morning. I had 12” this morning so maybe 11ish? Down to 33° so the puddles are getting some skim ice. The roof is almost entirely clear and dry now minus one tiny patch in a sheltered spot on the north side of the garage. So hopefully we slow down the melt this week with the 35-40° days and 15° nights. With sun and lower RH we should be able to sublimate and evaporate some of it away too. 

Guess we have to keep an eye on late week for a late bloomer too. 

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It's actually been snowing pretty good for the past 30-45 minutes.  Perfect dendrites, big feathers.  They are slow to fall but there are a lot of them.

Seems to be a Lake Ontario connection...could be a couple/few inches for the mountains if they are seeing this snow growth, but it's the true meaning of dust on crust.

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11 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

It's actually been snowing pretty good for the past 30-45 minutes.  Perfect dendrites, big feathers.  They are slow to fall but there are a lot of them.

Seems to be a Lake Ontario connection...could be a couple/few inches for the mountains if they are seeing this snow growth, but it's the true meaning of dust on crust.

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I’m not sure when it started snowing, but I just checked and there’s over an inch out there.  It’s not quite as intense as that 2.5”/hr. Wednesday night blast, but still fairly heavy snowfall with large flakes.

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BTV down to 1/2sm moderate snow... likely closing in on 2" of fluff here now.

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Event totals: 1.7” Snow/0.06” L.E.

 

Details from the 11:00 P.M. Waterbury observations:

New Snow: 1.6 inches

New Liquid: 0.05 inches

Snow/Water Ratio: 32.0

Snow Density: 3.1% H2O

Temperature: 29.7 F

Sky:  Snow (2 to 15 mm flakes)

Snow at the stake: 25.0 inches

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3 hours ago, powderfreak said:

It's actually been snowing pretty good for the past 30-45 minutes.  Perfect dendrites, big feathers.  They are slow to fall but there are a lot of them.

Seems to be a Lake Ontario connection...could be a couple/few inches for the mountains if they are seeing this snow growth, but it's the true meaning of dust on crust.

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That’s awesome and why northern Vermont is great. Anything will help for tomorrow. We will lucky to get a dusting in svt

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Event totals: 3.3” Snow/0.13” L.E.

 

Details from the 6:00 A.M. Waterbury observations:

New Snow: 1.6 inches

New Liquid: 0.07 inches

Snow/Water Ratio: 22.9

Snow Density: 4.4% H2O

Temperature: 22.5 F

Sky:  Cloudy

Snow at the stake: 25.5 inches

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9 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

That’s awesome and why northern Vermont is great. Anything will help for tomorrow. We will lucky to get a dusting in svt

There are of course instances where the SVT resorts get more snow, but throughout the course of an entire season, there are a lot of these impromptu events in the north, and they really add up.  If you look at the typical reported averages for annual snowfall here along the spine, the values for the northernmost resorts are more than double those for the southernmost resorts.

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14 hours ago, J.Spin said:

I’m not sure when it started snowing, but I just checked and there’s over an inch out there.  It’s not quite as intense as that 2.5”/hr. Wednesday night blast, but still fairly heavy snowfall with large flakes.

Three separate 1 hour+ drives I made throughout last week were through heavy 1.0-2.0+inch bands.  The first was through the fronto band of the cutter Sunday morning driving from my buddies in Springfield, MA to Dover, VT.

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  Then Sunday afternoon, driving from Dover to Jay(Montgomery Center), near montpelier the snow switched back from rain and the rates were easily 2+ once I got closer to Jay.  We obviously got a lot up at Jay this week, they reported around 21-24" in 48 hours. 

I dont have screenshot of radar from Sunday night the 10th, but I took this one on Monday evening at 9pm.  We picked up 4" in two hours between 8-10pm in Montgomery Center, and another 4-5" overnight.  

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When I left Wednesday night to drive down to a friends cabin in Wilmot, NH, we drove through those 2.5"+ bands coming out of Jay and through Stowe and your hometown. The snow follows me.  

 

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