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4 hours ago, powderfreak said:

This morning was my best morning on the hill.  Place was empty ghost town for 8" overnight.  Love these upslope events that don't bring the crowds... no named Noreaster, no media hype with TWC posting snow maps...just lots of pow for those that sort-of pay attention.

Buddy Joe at SR said the same thing

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What's you season total? John up in Pittsburg is at 195". Awesome winter up there
Damn, that's like nearly 3x what we got. I know they're farther nw and that area usually does well, but it's not Stowe or some other mountain. The gradient this year north to south was very sharp. Just north of here only about 20mi by road, bridgton seemed to define the gradient where they did well and obviously points north of there.

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Event totals: 4.6” Snow/0.31” L.E.

 

I measured an additional 0.4” of snow on the boards this morning before I headed off to Stowe, but it was ultra-fluffy and had sublimated by the time I got home this evening.  It looks like everything has pulled away now, so the totals above should be the final numbers from Winter Storm Taylor.

 

Details from the 6:00 P.M. Waterbury observations:

New Snow: 0.4 inches

New Liquid: Trace

Temperature: 26.4 F

Sky:  Partly Cloudy

Snow at the stake: 29.0 inches

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56 minutes ago, J.Spin said:

Event totals: 4.6” Snow/0.31” L.E.

 

I measured an additional 0.4” of snow on the boards this morning before I headed off to Stowe, but it was ultra-fluffy and had sublimated by the time I got home this evening.  It looks like everything has pulled away now, so the totals above should be the final numbers from Winter Storm Taylor.

 

Details from the 6:00 P.M. Waterbury observations:

New Snow: 0.4 inches

New Liquid: Trace

Temperature: 26.4 F

Sky:  Partly Cloudy

Snow at the stake: 29.0 inches

Just came back from Williston, you can hardly tell it snowed last night and this morning. The sun today vaporized anything that didn’t fall on a snowy surface. 

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1 hour ago, Lava Rock said:

Damn, that's like nearly 3x what we got. I know they're farther nw and that area usually does well, but it's not Stowe or some other mountain. The gradient this year north to south was very sharp. Just north of here only about 20mi by road, bridgton seemed to define the gradient where they did well and obviously points north of there.

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They upslope pretty well. Not quite the N Greens but plenty of surprise 5-10" events, but the gradient has been sharp regardless

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7 hours ago, borderwx said:

5”? For us, winds really worked it around. 

chasing flakes having a banner Jay day

It was a top 5 for the season. 

I'm still thinking about this... it was really good.  The dense snow/mixed precip (even if just a couple inches) prior was the catalyst for some great powder today.  No slick surface underneath the fluff...it was blower powder but there was that dense layer above the base snow.  All in all it was very charge-able snow.  You could be more aggressive while skiing.

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1 minute ago, mreaves said:

Just came back from Williston, you can hardly tell it snowed last night and this morning. The sun today vaporized anything that didn’t fall on a snowy surface. 

Ha, same here.  Didn't clean the wife's car off this morning, and the 3.5" was just gone this afternoon.  The car wasn't even wet.  North facing spots and shaded areas are cold, dry powder...but out in the open and darker surfaces, there was no indication it ever happened.  The sun is strong this time of year.

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Here are the north to south listing of available snowfall totals from the Vermont ski areas over the past 48 hours, which should represent approximate storm totals for Winter Storm Taylor:

 

Jay Peak: 21”

Burke: 9”

Smuggler’s Notch: 12”

Stowe: 13”

Bolton Valley: 7”

Mad River Glen: 9”

Sugarbush: 8”

Pico: 10”

Killington: 10”

Okemo: 2”

Bromley: 7”

Magic Mountain: 5”

Stratton: 6”

Mount Snow: 6”

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16 hours ago, powderfreak said:

The orographic lift came through last night.  That's for sure.

 

10 hours ago, powderfreak said:

This morning was my best morning on the hill.  Place was empty ghost town for 8" overnight.  Love these upslope events that don't bring the crowds... no named Noreaster, no media hype with TWC posting snow maps...just lots of pow for those that sort-of pay attention.

We sure love it when the Greens do their thing.  I was planning to head to Bolton this morning, but when I saw the apparent snowfall differential from the reports, I switched my plans to Stowe and decided to do a few lift-served runs there.  It was snowing nice fat flakes all morning, and the increases in snowfall intensity were often quite notable as you headed up in elevation.  It typically wasn’t an intense pounding snow, but often nice and steady, and sometimes you’d have that fairly decent snowfall with sunshine at the same time.  There were a couple of times with the perfect simultaneous combinations of flakes and sun that I had to stand there in awe and soak in the mountain scene.  And it was all gorgeous upslope flakes – my analysis from this morning indicated about 5% H2O, so that’s probably about what we had where the snow wasn’t affected by any wind.  It was simply great snow quality with some good right-side-up nature to it as you noted.

I had a bit of interesting serendipity on this morning’s outing.  I parked in the upper Gondi lot, planning to do most of my skiing there, but I had a pass issue that required me to head over to Spruce.  I decided to catch some runs while I was over there and noticed something surprising – Sensation was running, but Sunny Spruce was down.  The reverse is common if there are wind issues, but not that combination (it turns out it was a wind issue, it was mechanical I guess).  Anyway, with Sunny Spruce down, it was pretty much country club powder skiing on that terrain for the few folks that felt like accessing it.

Most off piste (and even some on piste) terrain I encountered was definitely delivering that 48-hour total of 13” that I saw on the website.  My first check of the day was in the Meadows East Glades, and my measurement came right in at 12 inches.  I checked in spots off Upper Sterling and was typically getting 12-14”.  I eventually got back over to the Gondola terrain and was really impressed with the skiing in the Bench Woods.  It was skiing much deeper than a foot at times, and doing some checks I was getting powder depths of 22-24”.  I did push through some sort of slightly thicker layer in those measurements, but it must not have been too sturdy because I was definitely skiing a lot of lines where the snow had that “up to the thighs” feeling.  That’s typically in the two-foot realm vs. the one-foot realm.

Anyway, temperatures were cold enough to keep things light and dry, but certainly not January frigid, so it was an all-around great morning.  It was another world once I got back down into the valley – it was mostly sunny while it was still snowing away at the mountain.

Some pictures from today’s outing:

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Jay was prime yesterday, I've never gone that fast for that long in that much powder.  Yeah I've ridden twice as deep blower before but being able to keep speed through the deep powder and lay out turns in the more open and steep trees just felt unreal.  I definitely needed some windshield wipers or something.  

 

This picture does a good job showing the depth in some places on the mountain from the recent snowfall.  It was scraped down to the icier base from earlier in the week here, exposing the recent snowpack. 

 

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14 hours ago, Lava Rock said:

Damn, that's like nearly 3x what we got. I know they're farther nw and that area usually does well, but it's not Stowe or some other mountain. The gradient this year north to south was very sharp. Just north of here only about 20mi by road, bridgton seemed to define the gradient where they did well and obviously points north of there.

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Partly sharp gradient, but also merely climo asserting itself.  Long term average at 1st CT Lake is about 160", so while they're AN, it's not at record level - they measured 261" in 1970-71.  I'm 0.2" shy of 100 (have not added the Monday evening half inch to my sig) which is 20+ above you and Jeff.  The Farmington co-op's long term average is 90, LEW closer to 70.  For the 8 full years we've been on Kev W's snow table (starting 2010-11 and not counting this winter), my average has been 94", a bit AN.  Jeff's has been 93.6".  When climo points to a 20" difference but recent years show almost none, it's inevitable that the averages will bite back.

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26 minutes ago, tamarack said:

Partly sharp gradient, but also merely climo asserting itself.  Long term average at 1st CT Lake is about 160", so while they're AN, it's not at record level - they measured 261" in 1970-71.  I'm 0.2" shy of 100 (have not added the Monday evening half inch to my sig) which is 20+ above you and Jeff.  The Farmington co-op's long term average is 90, LEW closer to 70.  For the 8 full years we've been on Kev W's snow table (starting 2010-11 and not counting this winter), my average has been 94", a bit AN.  Jeff's has been 93.6".  When climo points to a 20" difference but recent years show almost none, it's inevitable that the averages will bite back.

If we get no more snow this season, my avg over the same period would be 84.29". Not too bad and certainly AN.

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I’ve been putting it off because I’ve known the task was going to be a bit of a bear, but I finally had time to core the snowpack here at our site to get total SWE.  The liquid came in at 9.84”, which is just about what our NOHRSC plot indicates:

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I haven’t actually cored the snowpack and input any real data since back before Christmas, at which point there were just a couple inches of liquid in the pack.  Anyway, I’d say that’s fairly impressive modeling to be so close to the actual water content in the snowpack after all this time.

The modeling suggests we’ll see another small bump in the snowpack’s water content soon, which I guess must be in association with tonight’s system.

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This isn’t supposed to be an especially large system coming through tonight, but we’ve got some hefty precipitation going on.  The flakes right now are up to 30 m in diameter and the snowfall rate is probably an inch per hour or more.

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3 minutes ago, J.Spin said:

This isn’t supposed to be an especially large system coming through tonight, but we’ve got some hefty precipitation going on.  The flakes right now are up to 30 m in diameter and the snowfall rate is probably an inch per hour or more.

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On the eve of the torch that may signal the beginning of the end of winter. It’s the winter that just wants to snow. 

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19 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Sh*ts getting real... wife is a passenger driving back from BTV with a friend on I-89 and it's getting rough.

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Well, we did just pick up 2.5” of snow in the past hour here, so I bet driving was pretty tough in that.

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Event totals: 2.5” Snow/0.18” L.E.

 

This system is a shortwave moving along north of the US/CA border, but it’s going to have enough precipitation in it to push the snowpack here past 10 inches of liquid.

 

Details from the 9:00 P.M. Waterbury observations:

New Snow: 2.5 inches

New Liquid: 0.18 inches

Snow/Water Ratio: 13.9

Snow Density: 7.2% H2O

Temperature: 34.5 F

Sky:  Snow (2 to 15 mm flakes)

Snow at the stake: 31.5 inches

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23 minutes ago, J.Spin said:

Well, we did just pick up 2.5” of snow in the past hour here, so I bet driving was pretty tough in that.

BTV ASOS had 0.25" liquid in 2 hours with the snow obs... that's some decent SWE in short duration.

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2.5-3" range here and still snowing.

.NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THURSDAY EVENING/...
As of 958 PM EDT Wednesday...Well, that was interesting.
Shortwave moving west to east across southern Ontario/Quebec
sure overproduced as a band of moderate to heavy snow exploded
in the Champlain Valley between 8PM and now with several reports
coming in across Chittenden County in the 2-4" range, most of
which fell in about an hour. Current radar returns show the bulk
of precip is shifting southeastward out of the CWA with some
stubborn activity still ongoing in Chittenden county. 

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53 minutes ago, J.Spin said:

Event totals: 2.5” Snow/0.18” L.E.

 

This system is a shortwave moving along north of the US/CA border, but it’s going to have enough precipitation in it to push the snowpack here past 10 inches of liquid.

 

Details from the 9:00 P.M. Waterbury observations:

New Snow: 2.5 inches

New Liquid: 0.18 inches

Snow/Water Ratio: 13.9

Snow Density: 7.2% H2O

Temperature: 34.5 F

Sky:  Snow (2 to 15 mm flakes)

Snow at the stake: 31.5 inches

Your sig says 2017 2018 snowfalls

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1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said:

Your sig says 2017 2018 snowfalls

Thanks for catching that, I fixed it and updated the events list as well.

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Event totals: 3.2” Snow/0.21” L.E.

 

Details from the 6:00 A.M. Waterbury observations:

New Snow: 0.7 inches

New Liquid: 0.03 inches

Snow/Water Ratio: 23.3

Snow Density: 4.3% H2O

Temperature: 34.2 F

Sky:  Cloudy

Snow at the stake: 31.5 inches

Total liquid in snowpack: 10.05 inches

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