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2018/19 Winter Banter and General Discussion - We winter of YORE

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10 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

Just a couple stray piles left now

 Battered but certainly not broken here.  

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1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said:

Damn on the Boston 5 hr fire at a Casket company,  creepy 

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Appears God prefers cremation?

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14 hours ago, tamarack said:

Actually it's a better record than I've had here where the average winter brings 90".  Six of 20 winters, all the Ds and Fs in my above post, failed to bring a 12"+ event, and this year will need a late rally to avoid being #7.  (Note:  Both 10-11 and 12-13 hit the mark at equinox time or later, so not impossible.)  Longest streak of winters with a foot-plus is 3, done twice - 02-03 to 04-05 and 06-07 to 08-09 (so a 6-of-7 run, broken by my only winter w/o even a 6" storm since 67-68 in NNJ.)
 

The cold sucked this winter. It was brutal.

Didn't find it that way here.  Sure it was BN - last AN month was Sept, but really brutal cold was rare and generally lasted no more than 3 days.  T-Day was a shock, roaring winds on my coldest November day by far, in my coldest and snowiest Nov.  (That T-Day max of 11 is a degree colder than my lowest max in 9 Fort Kent Novembers.)  However, winter bottomed out at -20, just barely making the 17th of 21 touching that mark.  Coldest daily max was 6°, on both 20 and 21, Jan, and both days had subzero daylight hours spoiled by early and/or late highs.

Really interesting that I surpass you in the most consecutive winters with a 12" storm category, although I would love to have your annual snowfall average. Nothing like a long lasting snow pack either.

You got a bit unlucky with some of those missing winters for you, especially winter of 09-10 with the suppression depression thanks to a record -NAO block

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3 hours ago, BombsAway1288 said:

Really interesting that I surpass you in the most consecutive winters with a 12" storm category, although I would love to have your annual snowfall average. Nothing like a long lasting snow pack either.

You got a bit unlucky with some of those missing winters for you, especially winter of 09-10 with the suppression depression thanks to a record -NAO block

This is from the old BOX site. 12” events aren’t supposed to be this easy. 

https://web.archive.org/web/20000815054151/http://www.nws.noaa.gov/er/box/ 

Click on snowstorms and then climatology. 

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Snowstorm Climatology

Average number of snowstorms per season (1952-53 through 1991-92)

     Storm Size/1"-2.9"   3"-5.9"   6" plus   Total
Location
Boston		6.08      2.85      1.40      10.33
Worcester	9.23      4.60      2.35      16.18
Providence	6.03      2.63      1.23       9.88
Hartford	6.90      3.40      1.60      11.90
 

Chance per year of at least 1 snowfall amounting to 12 inches
or more: Based on data from 1953 to 1992.

Boston     33%
Worcester  55%
Providence 20%
Hartford   25%

I laugh when people expect a 12 incher every year now. 

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52 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Shhh. Don’t tell Tauntonblizzard.

Spoiled kids be spoiled,  here is the highest snowstorm by year, Boston and North Foster coop the average has gone from 8 to 11 Boston,  9 to 14 here, since 1990 big jump up. Spoiled 

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33 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

Spoiled kids be spoiled,  here is the highest snowstorm by year, Boston and North Foster coop the average has gone from 8 to 11 Boston,  9 to 14 here, since 1990 big jump up. Spoiled 

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Just like our sports teams. We spoiled.

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We had some loud storms here last night before that line shifted east, we got whacked pretty good as it came in.  The snow/ice left over mess is looking pretty ugly, but it is great for sledding!

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3 hours ago, Ginx snewx said:

Spoiled kids be spoiled,  here is the highest snowstorm by year, Boston and North Foster coop the average has gone from 8 to 11 Boston,  9 to 14 here, since 1990 big jump up. Spoiled 

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Is that calendar day rather than storm total?  Must be, as unlike what the chart shows, Boston's had several >25" (one such being the 1969 "100-hour" storm, which the chart shows as <15".)  Using the calendar day would certainly cut down on the 12"-ers.

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1 minute ago, tamarack said:

Is that calendar day rather than storm total?  Must be, as unlike what the chart shows, Boston's had several >25" (one such being the 1969 "100-hour" storm, which the chart shows as <15".)  Using the calendar day would certainly cut down on the 12"-ers.

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Maximum 4-Day Total Snowfall 
for BOSTON, MA
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Rank
Value
Ending Date
Missing Days
1 29.5 2015-01-27 0
2 27.6 2003-02-20 0
       
       
3 27.1 1978-02-09 0
       
       
4 26.7 1994-02-11  
5 26.3 1969-02-27 0
       
6 25.6 2013-02-09 0
7 25.4 1997-04-03 0
       
       
8 24.9 2013-02-11

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Many of the back roads in the hill towns have become impassable due to mud.  Dropped the boy off at a friends house in Colrain  and never got the Subaru out of second gear.

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6 hours ago, dendrite said:

This is from the old BOX site. 12” events aren’t supposed to be this easy. 

https://web.archive.org/web/20000815054151/http://www.nws.noaa.gov/er/box/ 

Click on snowstorms and then climatology. 

I laugh when people expect a 12 incher every year now. 

Oh absolutely 12" events aren't supposed to happen every year down here on the coastal plain nor should they be expected. It's certainly been an anomaly the last 18 years for the Northeast to have so many at least double digit events, that's why I pointed it out in my original post. We have been extremely lucky the last 2 decades so I wouldn't be surprised if at some point we get 4 or 5 straight winters without a big event. Regression is certainly due around here at some point.

So glad I didn't grow up/remember the 80's, especially after the very cold and snowy late 70's but I'm a realist and by no means am I expecting every winter to be like 2014-2015 with at least one 12" event the rest of my life. We were close this year as it was a very 80's-like winter from what you guys were saying with it being cold and dry then warm and wet. We just lucked out 2 weeks ago and that wasn't even everyone in SNE who cashed in

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45 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said:

Many of the back roads in the hill towns have become impassable due to mud.  Dropped the boy off at a friends house in Colrain  and never got the Subaru out of second gear.

I don’t recall roads being left to decay from my childhood until around 20 years ago.  What the hell has happened?  

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8 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

 

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 I know! I went with our brewery yesterday while they were canning it.  such great folks!  Glad I wasn't driving because they had me try one of everything. 

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