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4 hours ago, CNY-LES FREAK said:

Better start thinking about a row boat soon b55ecause with the amount of rain coming, we may need one! Rain from Friday Night straight through to Wednesday, lol. I guess Tuesdays event has changed to rain on most guidance so the snow that we all get today and tonight will be all gone by Wednesday afternoon.

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Friday looks dry, Saturday looks dry until late evening, some scattered showers overnight, and then Sunday looks dry all day.   What am I missing?

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27 minutes ago, DeltaT13 said:

What is going on in here?  So much doom and gloom.  The start to winter has been early and strong, not sure what y'all are complaining about.  The way I see it almost everything we have gotten so far is straight bonus snow.  Many years I would still be waiting on my first real coating or inch of snow on this date.   Just a few years back Buffalo didn't even get its first measurable snow until after Christmas.  It could be much worse!

Additionally, that arctic front looks viscous.  Wouldn't be surprised if someone heard a rumble of thunder in it.  The NWS is dropping snow squall warnings for it.  

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Lake Erie has a finite amount of thermal energy that is exhausted part way through met winter. On average, it hits 32F in the first week of February, and the closer it gets to freezing the lower the delta-t values. So a cold, unproductive November is bad news for Buffalo snowfall.

The "squall" line is coming through here now. Light snow, small flakes, visibility for miles. 

 

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SNOW SQUALL WARNING
NWS BINGHAMTON NY
954 AM EST WED NOV 21 2018

NYC053-065-067-211611-
/O.NEW.KBGM.SQ.W.0007.181121T1454Z-181121T1600Z/
954 AM EST WED NOV 21 2018
Madison County-Oneida County-Onondaga County-

The National Weather Service in Binghamton has issued a

* Snow Squall Warning for...
Central Oneida County in central New York...
Northwestern Madison County in central New York...
Northeastern Onondaga County in central New York...

* Until 1100 AM EST.

* At 954 AM EST, a dangerous snow squall was located along a line
extending from Fulton to near Lowville, moving southeast at 25 mph.

HAZARD...Whiteout conditions. Zero visibility in heavy snow and
blowing snow. Wind gusts greater than 30 mph. A quick
inch or so of snow could fall in less than 30 minutes. A
brief rumble can not be ruled out as well.

SOURCE...Radar and webcams.

IMPACT...Dangerous life-threatening travel.

Locations impacted include...
Clay, Rome, Cicero, Oneida, North Syracuse, Lee, Vienna, Minoa,
Phoenix and Camden.

This includes the following highway exits...
Interstate 90 near 34A.
New York Interstate 81 between 28 and 31.

 

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Tonight will become bitterly cold with lingering lake effect
snow showers. 850mb temperatures will fall to around -20C, but
moisture will be very limited. As a result, QPF consensus of model
guidance is limited, with the greatest amounts south of Lake Ontario
where there is the longest fetch and potentially brief a Georgian
Bay connection. Additional snowfall amounts should mainly be light,
but considering the fluff factor localized accumulations of a few
inches cannot be ruled out even though many areas will remain snow-
free. Cooling will mainly be through advection with lingering lake
effect clouds, but even so temperatures will fall into the single
digits to mid-teens. A late clearing should allow for even lower
temperatures east of Lake Ontario where some below zero readings are
possible.



 
.LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/...
The long awaited warm-up will arrive this weekend with several days
of near or a little above normal temperatures as the pattern across
North America temporarily re-aligns, with a trough focusing on the
Northern Plains and forcing downstream height rises across the east.
A deep shortwave will cross the region Saturday and Saturday night
on the leading edge of the warm-up, producing periods of showers.
Warm advection ramps up well ahead of the precip, so this should be
all rain by the time it arrives later Saturday morning.

The rain will taper off from west to east later Saturday night and
Sunday morning as the system moves into New England. Weak high
pressure will then bring a mainly dry Sunday. High temperatures will
be in the 40s both Saturday and Sunday, with overnight lows Saturday
night staying above freezing.

Another potent Pacific shortwave will emerge onto the Central Plains
by early Sunday morning, with the resulting system moving into the
Ohio valley and eastern Great Lakes by Monday. This will bring
increasing rain chances to our region later Sunday night and Monday.
Temperatures will continue to be warm enough through Monday to
support all rain at the surface. This system is forecast by the GFS
and ECMWF, and most of their ensembles, to evolve into a closed low
over the Northeast States By Tuesday and Wednesday of next week.
This will keep unsettled weather across our region, with colder air
filtering back into the Great Lakes and forcing rain to mix with and
change to wet snow by later Monday night and Tuesday.
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Friday looks dry, Saturday looks dry until late evening, some scattered showers overnight, and then Sunday looks dry all day.   What am I missing?
Was only playing cause the board seems to think we're in Mid Winter and we should automatically be getting feet of snow, lol. I do agree though, it's been tough this yr to get a band over KBUF for an extended period of time, but it's not like it's the first time it's happened like Delta mentioned. It does suck, when every one around you is seeing snow, and you can't catch a flake, lol. Frustrating to say the least as I know for sure I'd be super pissed.


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16 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Not entirely true. 2-4” of that fell in the widespread snow burst yesterday morning and early afternoon. I was hunting in Holland yesterday and there was a good 3-4” of new snow during the day so only 1-2” of that was from the band this morning...

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11 minutes ago, WNash said:

We now have partly sunny skies. So much for this early start to snow season. Hopefully the next few days don't take too much heat out of Lake Erie. I wouldn't mind +10F above average temps and dry conditions for a couple of weeks (not that we will get it).

Sat-Monday will be above normal, also another shot in Middle of December. Lake Erie is only 1 degree below normal right now. I can use some sunshine, has been way too gloomy last few weeks. 

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SW flow lake events are more rare just because of the climate of the Great Lakes. Not the main wind flow. But when they do happen...BAM! In Michigan, I lived in an area that was amazing during SW flow events, but struggled with many other wind directions. Plus, snow can melt rapidly when a Sw flow of mild air from the gulf works up.

When you live in an area like Buffalo or Watertown, you definitely need to be patient in waiting for the big events. You guys still have all of December at least.

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