dryslot Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: It's just snow. If you're not reporting it officially, it makes no difference. It either compacts or has melted anyways in a short time frame after it falls. True, But some of us are...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: I’ve sort of made peace with snow measurements not being perfect. It’s the least accurate ob for a type of weather phenomenon or variable we have. You also get a ton of wind in storms. Up here in the mountain valleys it seems to fall straight down almost all the time, like even big storms do that until the backside wind kicks in. I always think your measuring is probably what it's like to measure up this way at 1,500-2,000ft or above... you have to have the right location and have it dialed to really be confident. The wind is always blowing up at that height. Anything under like 1,200ft here that's not in the Champlain Valley (funneling effects) has the vast majority of snow fall straight down. The stuff where you've got like 4" on power lines and it's not even wet snow...there's just no air movement at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 3 hours ago, CoastalWx said: I’d say if storm is under a foot your measurements are pretty good. But when they get bigger, you get a little excited and the amounts may be slightly higher than actuality. That's how the ski industry is too, haha. Once past 10-12" I am convinced no one actually measures anything... just ohh it's gotta be 16-18" or whatever. I just walked from the parking lot to the lifts and there has to be two feet!! I honestly don't think anyone tries to purposefully be wrong (except Jay at times I think they know), but skiers are like weather weenies, they get excited and 9 out of 10 skiers I know will over-estimate snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 2 hours ago, powderfreak said: You also get a ton of wind in storms. Up here in the mountain valleys it seems to fall straight down almost all the time, like even big storms do that until the backside wind kicks in. I always think your measuring is probably what it's like to measure up this way at 1,500-2,000ft or above... you have to have the right location and have it dialed to really be confident. The wind is always blowing up at that height. Anything under like 1,200ft here that's not in the Champlain Valley (funneling effects) has the vast majority of snow fall straight down. The stuff where you've got like 4" on power lines and it's not even wet snow...there's just no air movement at all. It definitely effects snow reports. Sometimes windy areas near the coast aren’t getting less snow, it’s just wind compacted a bit. You see that a lot in he biggies. The snow seems dense despite it not being wet. It’s just packed down good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 50 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: It definitely effects snow reports. Sometimes windy areas near the coast aren’t getting less snow, it’s just wind compacted a bit. You see that a lot in he biggies. The snow seems dense despite it not being wet. It’s just packed down good. I give you guys big credit for even being able to get a measurement. Every time I see a photo from eastern Mass or coastal wind areas, where there's a 2-3 foot drift around the corner of the house or against a fence or car, while there's exposed grass blades in the middle of the yard... I have no idea how you figure out how much snow fell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Up to about 20" of rain since the beginning of July. Mushroom city... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 49/47 here feels great with the bedroom window open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 42.8°...getting too cold for my fig tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 13 hours ago, powderfreak said: I give you guys big credit for even being able to get a measurement. Every time I see a photo from eastern Mass or coastal wind areas, where there's a 2-3 foot drift around the corner of the house or against a fence or car, while there's exposed grass blades in the middle of the yard... I have no idea how you figure out how much snow fell. Sometimes I have to think about visibility when figuring this out. Like 1/4SM is at least 1-2/hr etc. It’s not easy. If you clear an area, it either blows off the board or blows in the area you cleared out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 7 hours ago, CoastalWx said: Sometimes I have to think about visibility when figuring this out. Like 1/4SM is at least 1-2/hr etc. It’s not easy. If you clear an area, it either blows off the board or blows in the area you cleared out. Yeah I tend to estimate 1/4SM being 1+/hr, 1/2SM being 1/2"/hr. Of course there are some events in the shoulder seasons or in a weird warm column where 1 1/2SM is like 1"/hr stuff (I think we had one last winter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Pretty much perfect weather this weekend. Wow. Like wow. Return to muggies this week but enjoying it while I can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Yes. Up in NH camping and it's great Pretty much perfect weather this weekend. Wow. Like wow. Return to muggies this week but enjoying it while I canSent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 1 hour ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Pretty much perfect weather this weekend. Wow. Like wow. Return to muggies this week but enjoying it while I can Yeah, I spent the day facilitating the Cub Scout model rocket event at Turners Falls Airport. Bluebird day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindanz Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Been cold the past couple days, but today it’s hot as cheekz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 15 hours ago, OceanStWx said: Yeah I tend to estimate 1/4SM being 1+/hr, 1/2SM being 1/2"/hr. Of course there are some events in the shoulder seasons or in a weird warm column where 1 1/2SM is like 1"/hr stuff (I think we had one last winter). Sometimes you get the higher vis fluff stuff where 1SM is exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: Sometimes you get the higher vis fluff stuff where 1SM is exactly that. And then it compacts down to what it would be at 10:1 in a day anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 59 minutes ago, dendrite said: And then it compacts down to what it would be at 10:1 in a day anyway. Ha, yeah. Fake snow. The classic bar mistake. You enjoy it as it happens and then the morning after is like WTF? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HimoorWx Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 First night in the 40s here. Low of 49. Lovely crisp morning!Sent from my SM-T713 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 36° F for my low, so no September freeze here. My "growing" season has now reached the 5 month mark as my last sub freezing min was on 4/30, when we had a couple inches of wet snow. I put growing in quotation marks because I had some residual snow OTG until May 13. I had a 33° F in mid May, so this is my coldest since then. Big snow at this location, but I don't radiate well at all like those valleys up north. Low diurnal temperatures is where I win out. I wonder if I snow before I freeze... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, wxmanmitch said: 36° F for my low, so no September freeze here. My "growing" season has now reached the 5 month mark as my last sub freezing min was on 4/30, when we had a couple inches of wet snow. I put growing in quotation marks because I had some residual snow OTG until May 13. I had a 33° F in mid May, so this is my coldest since then. Big snow at this location, but I don't radiate well at all like those valleys up north. Low diurnal temperatures is where I win out. I wonder if I snow before I freeze... 36F is practically the coldest temp in Mass this morning...colder than most of Coos too. It sounds like you have no problem radiating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianW Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Posted by NWS Boston [September 30th, 1992: Trace of Snow in Worcester] Remarkable cold air invaded the region on this date back in 1992. Worcester, MA had a low of 30 with the high only reaching 46. They also received a trace of snow, the only known occurrence in September for Worcester. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Well still in the Hospital,possible more surgery tomorrow,ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Well still in the Hospital,possible more surgery tomorrow,ugh Oh no, hoping everything goes ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said: Well still in the Hospital,possible more surgery tomorrow,ugh Hey man, hoping for the best for you my friend. Good luck and hang in there. Big winter coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Are the nurses at least good looking? Good luck Well still in the Hospital,possible more surgery tomorrow,ughSent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 23 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: Are the nurses at least good looking? Good luck Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk Smoking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Good luck Ginxy. I hope it goes well for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Valley Snowman Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Stay strong Ginx. Wishing you a full and successful recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Ginx snewx said: Well still in the Hospital,possible more surgery tomorrow,ugh Good luck man . Stay ACATT. Thoughts are with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob40 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 41 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Good luck man . Stay ACATT. Thoughts are with you Yep. Best wishes for a speedy recovery from one sexagenarian to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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