Quality of Life drops as Climate Change hits Home

[Vice-Regent]

 

[raindancewx]

The vast majority of warming on Earth is at night (lows) and in cold uninhabited regions, the Arctic/Antarctic warming at 5x the rate of the other areas, etc. We can pretend that people care about temperatures in places they don't live and when they are sleeping, but the billions of people living better than they have before in any other age, suggests that actually, at least for now, it doesn't matter that much. It is part of why no one responds to these threads. The truth is pretty obvious.

[Save the itchy algae!]

I'm pretty sure QOL has improved greatly for mankind as its gotten warmer.  

[Jonger]

Not many people living today could say they have a worse QOL than when the earth had 280 ppm co2.

[etudiant]

Is that because there are relatively few people over 70?

It is certainly true that we are doing uncontrolled experiments with our environment, the CO2 injections being the most publicized, but by no means the only one or even perhaps the most significant example. Prudent stewardship of the one planet we have would support a different approach.

[Jonger]

23 hours ago, etudiant said:

Is that because there are relatively few people over 70?

It is certainly true that we are doing uncontrolled experiments with our environment, the CO2 injections being the most publicized, but by no means the only one or even perhaps the most significant example. Prudent stewardship of the one planet we have would support a different approach.

Well, a world without access to abundant energy has short lifespans and cyclical starvation problems. The more readily available energy, the more society flourishes.

 

 

[etudiant]

39 minutes ago, Jonger said:

Well, a world without access to abundant energy has short lifespans and cyclical starvation problems. The more readily available energy, the more society flourishes.

 

 

Agreed entirely.

Issue is how to produce the energy without messing up the environment. Fossil fuels appear to have problems in that regard.

Nuclear would be good, if the product was more trustworthy, as the waste problem is tiny compared to fossil fuel. However, with 3 major failures in about 25,000 reactor years of operation, people are reluctant to pursue that technology. Wind is too small a source to rely on and solar has not yet out of the teething stage.

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

On 9/9/2018 at 7:53 PM, greenskeeper said:

This is the greatest time in the history of man to be alive....gimme a break

I hope for your sake you do not have Children then. The point of no return looms and the solutions in the future will be incredibly costly as future generations try to reverse our mess.

[LibertyBell]

On 9/3/2018 at 8:27 PM, etudiant said:

Agreed entirely.

Issue is how to produce the energy without messing up the environment. Fossil fuels appear to have problems in that regard.

Nuclear would be good, if the product was more trustworthy, as the waste problem is tiny compared to fossil fuel. However, with 3 major failures in about 25,000 reactor years of operation, people are reluctant to pursue that technology. Wind is too small a source to rely on and solar has not yet out of the teething stage.

We can easily run the entire planet on renewables and we will be doing that by 2050 or so.  Solar, wind, hydro, even supplementary nuclear (dont put reactors on fault lines).

Also, CC does effect places other than the far arctic- there are island nations going underwater because of sea level rise.  As will our coastal regions.  And the greatest time to be alive- maybe- but that doesn't mean there aren't big problems.  Cancer is on the rise as well as conditions like autism, ADHD, etc- from environmental factors like organophosphate pesticides and other toxic pollutants.  Companies like Dow are allowed to exceed safe spraying limits year after year and they are spraying toxic pesticides near schools (and exposure to them by pregnant women results in babies being born who later develop the above conditions.)  And CC and higher humidity levels are causing higher rates of asthma and other breathing problems especially near cities because the levels of smog are much higher than they were before, So Cal just set a record for 82 straight smog days, and all of this has been linked to CC.  Higher number of tropical infections are also connected directly to CC - you dont really want a warmer planet, I have traveled to tropical regions, do you know what kind of horrible parasitical infections occur there?

[LibertyBell]

On 9/3/2018 at 7:32 PM, Jonger said:

Well, a world without access to abundant energy has short lifespans and cyclical starvation problems. The more readily available energy, the more society flourishes.

 

 

The biggest problem is human overpopulation, get the birth rate to 1.5-1.8 worldwide like it is in Europe and we're golden.  Human overpopulation is the biggest factor in CC and most of our other environmental problems.

More education and a better economy will do that.