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The 2018-2019 Ski Season Thread

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Mansfield is just loaded with snow.  It's hard to even ski the glades because you are skiing in the tree canopy.  All the branches that are normally trimmed are at like knee height.  I'm 6'3" and can barely get through a bunch of areas.

Mountain is a playground.

Lots of folks teed it up off the Chin yesterday. 

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The Ultimate Chutes area...only skied by a handful of skiers with ropes, harnesses and ice climbing gear.  I still remember being at UVM when one of the Ski The East/Meathead Films guys (Alex Stall) fell to his death in here.  His slough pushed him over a cliff leading to a 100+ foot fall that was survivable. 

After growing up skiing in SVT, I remember that happened my first winter skiing at Stowe/Mansfield and thinking, this place is unlike any other mountain I've seen in VT.  The consequences are real if you wander into the wrong area.

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Re: ice, get a quick tune. You'll feel more confidence with a sharp edge. I also go with a narrow GS ski on fast/furious days. This weekend was tops Saturday alone. Nearly 2' of dry powder at BW. A little slow in some areas, but the trees with a kittle pitch were epic! Almost as easy as skiing spring corn. Sunday was beautiful blue bird, but WV was a bit crowded due to lack of lifties. Management there can be piss poor and this weekend was a reflection of it. Too bad, they had a lot of outsiders in for the races.

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37 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Mansfield is just loaded with snow.  It's hard to even ski the glades because you are skiing in the tree canopy.  All the branches that are normally trimmed are at like knee height.  I'm 6'3" and can barely get through a bunch of areas.

Mountain is a playground.

Lots of folks teed it up off the Chin yesterday. 

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The Ultimate Chutes area...only skied by a handful of skiers with ropes, harnesses and ice climbing gear.  I still remember being at UVM when one of the Ski The East/Meathead Films guys (Alex Stall) fell to his death in here.  His slough pushed him over a cliff leading to a 100+ foot fall that was survivable. 

After growing up skiing in SVT, I remember that happened my first winter skiing at Stowe/Mansfield and thinking, this place is unlike any other mountain I've seen in VT.  The consequences are real if you wander into the wrong area.

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It really is another world up there. There is a reason Jake (Carpenter) Burton moved from Stratton to Stowe. The southern Vermont mountains are a plateau and rounded peaks with nearly flat tops. Up there it’s a ridge line. I wonder if that had anything to due with the ice age. The plateau just doesn’t upslope well. You could see it very clearly on radar Saturday night. While Mansfield was ripping 3” an hour SVT was doing .5” an hour. If it weren’t so far of a drive from NYC I would be up there in a heart beat.

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2 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

I actually headed out over the weekend for a few careful runs. Powder and a deserted mountain we’re calling Friday. So I did a few again Saturday and Sunday. Actually my favorite weekend of the season. Stratton reported 9” but there was way more then that above 3000’ as Friday mornings snow was higher ratio the higher you get. That’s where Stratton’s extra elevation comes in handy with allot of terrain above 3,000’. I was debating on heading over to magic for the ski free day but it was raining at their base!!! Stratton’s peak at 3850 is a full 1k above Magic’s at 2850. Though Magic’s terrain is way more challenging!

Good call on avoiding the rain. I think snow surface quality trumps terrain. 

I have a shot at a good experience at Jay Peak in a 11 days, but it would be hard to equal what you guys had this past weekend. I’m glad you were able to get some despite your injury. Be careful and heal up!  I have a fondness for Stratton. It was my first big mountain I ever skied . Also skied there during the March 1993 Super Storm Blizzard until the lifts closed at 4PM. That was insane. Took over an hour to drive to the Red Sled motel just down the road and I was driving right behind a snowplow. There was thunder and lightning- the whole 9 yards! 

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Rode Magic Saturday, I would have gone further north to sugarbush or Stowe but my buddy left his skis and boots in a locker at mount snow, so we had to grab them early in the morning.  This is why I dont mind solo trips, stuff like that doesn't happen.  Anyways, Magic was nice where there was a base previously or that had not been windblown.  The trees held anywhere from 8-12" of fresh from bottom to top.  It was definitely loud powder with a scraping hardback under the fresh snow in a lot of places. 

Sunday I somehow found myself at Jay Peak again, only 10 days after being there solo March 11-13th for 2 feet of dry upslope powder.  Coming from the Philly area, I've put 2500+ miles on my car in two weeks.  Anyways, the 2 feet they recieved this storm had turned heavy and almost hard packed by Sunday morning, although certain shaded zones or wind deposits stayed dry.  This never happened the week before, where it managed to stay dry for at least a full day of bluebird conditions.

 We hiked the peak Sunday morning on first chair and got fresh tracks on the 'mellow' line skiers right along the shoulder and eventually off skiers left that opens into a steep snow field before entering the trees and a steep narrow chute. Here's a picture looking up the short snow field.  You can tell I didnt dig deep into the snow at all.

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Also, I almost died.  I was going fast, about 20-25mph through open trees where it was exposed to wind.  Just skiers right of that roped wind exposed death patch of ice/grass under the flyer just before the lift flattens out and dips down up top.  I hit a roller and grabbed indy, but when I landed my nose dug under the heavy windblown powder. I slid out onto my stomach at about 15mph, but because the windblown snow was harder at the top, I didnt break through.  I slid superman style 15 feet, where there was a nice tree that greeted the back of my head/base of my neck.  I was probably going about 10mph at impact.  If I had not been wearing a helmet, I would probably be dead. My buckled helmet popped off and in the process gave me a nice bruise next to my eye. My neck and shoulders are a little sore in the muscles, but I was able to ride fine the whole rest of the day and even dropped a good 12 footer afterwards. Overall it was nice, but again, conditions didnt compare to either of the 3 days I was there the other week.  Glad I made the journey though as I got more great footage and was able to show my friend a great mountain on a great day.  I'll try to share more as soon as my buddy has a chance to dropbox them over to me.

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2 hours ago, Jason215 said:

Good call on avoiding the rain. I think snow surface quality trumps terrain. 

I have a shot at a good experience at Jay Peak in a 11 days, but it would be hard to equal what you guys had this past weekend. I’m glad you were able to get some despite your injury. Be careful and heal up!  I have a fondness for Stratton. It was my first big mountain I ever skied . Also skied there during the March 1993 Super Storm Blizzard until the lifts closed at 4PM. That was insane. Took over an hour to drive to the Red Sled motel just down the road and I was driving right behind a snowplow. There was thunder and lightning- the whole 9 yards! 

93 must have been insane there. I think that was their biggest storm ever with 40” or something. The second storm last March was second with 36”. 36” is too much for that mountain though!

 

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Skiing at Stowe since 2003 I've never seen the snow anywhere remotely close to this deep on Upper Liftline. That part has been closed for over a month due to clearance issues with the chairlift... but MMSP actually had to remove snow to allow the downhill chairs clearance to move. That is absolutely wild. Foot-rests on the downhill chairs would drag in the snow if the bar was down for any reason. That is so much snow.

You could stand there and just load the chair going downhill right now... that first chair on the left is like 18" above the snow grade.

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Hard to beat days like today in the Stowe side-country... a quick 20 min walk from the top of the lift brings you to this...

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18 hours ago, powderfreak said:

Hard to beat days like today in the Stowe side-country... a quick 20 min walk from the top of the lift brings you to this...

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Looks awesome!

With such an Deep snowpack, what is the anticipated closing date this year? Inquiring minds want to know! 

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19 minutes ago, Jason215 said:

Looks awesome!

With such an Deep snowpack, what is the anticipated closing date this year? Inquiring minds want to know! 

Regardless of the snowpack, Stowe doesn’t typically deviate much from their planned closing date.  I’ve heard mentioned that the current plan is for Easter Sunday? (April 21st), but PF can confirm the exact plans.

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25 minutes ago, J.Spin said:

Regardless of the snowpack, Stowe doesn’t typically deviate much from their planned closing date.  I’ve heard mentioned that the current plan is for Easter Sunday? (April 21st), but PF can confirm the exact plans.

Yeah it's the 3rd Sunday in April, just like it's been for a decade.  Last year April 1st was a Sunday so closing was early at April 15th.  This year the 1st is a Monday so closing day is the 21st.

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On 3/25/2019 at 5:24 PM, powderfreak said:

Hard to beat days like today in the Stowe side-country... a quick 20 min walk from the top of the lift brings you to this...

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Is that an easy connect back to lift service?

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On 3/25/2019 at 4:28 PM, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

93 must have been insane there. I think that was their biggest storm ever with 40” or something. The second storm last March was second with 36”. 36” is too much for that mountain though!

 

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Nice! in 1993, I remember Stratton getting 27”. Maybe I’m wrong. But I have that number in my head. (Maybe it was Albany NY that got 27”)  Hunter Mtn Jacked with 48” in that one.  We didn’t ski that Sunday because It was bitterly cold and the upper lifts were on wind hold and they were charging full price tickets. There was a rediculous amount of snow up there in Bondville since they already had a deep snowpack (4 feet or so) prior to the 1993 Blizzard. 

Last March was Epic for Southern VT with about 80” of snow between the 4 NorEasters within a 15 day period. I was fortunate enough to partake of that bounty at Magic, Okemo and Killington. 

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Anyone been to southern Vermont last few days (Snow/Stratton/Okemo)?  How are the conditions holding up?  Was thinking of going one last time Monday if we get a few inches Sunday.

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On 3/26/2019 at 8:05 PM, snowgeek said:

 


That looks freaking awesome!!! I gotta get up there someday!


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Great place. last time i was there it rained on the way up then next day it was -14 had to staple lift tickets together glue wouldn't work.

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Speaking of deep snow... the last 23" storm of dense snow really took everything to the next level. 

I love how this trail sign for Goat has the arrow pointing diagonally down.  Like, "this is usually where we want you to go, but this year the arrow should be level or pointing up."

*Only closed because it was frozen solid early this morning.  The steeper ungroomed terrain opened up once the snow softened as is the usual spring SOP.

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41 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Speaking of deep snow... the last 23" storm of dense snow really took everything to the next level. 

I love how this trail sign for Goat has the arrow pointing diagonally down.  Like, "this is usually where we want you to go, but this year the arrow should be level or pointing up."

*Only closed because it was frozen solid early this morning.  The steeper ungroomed terrain opened up once the snow softened as is the usual spring SOP.

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LOL PF, I was going to take that exact picture when we were out at the mountain on Sunday.  It’s crazy to think that Upper Goat there, which is more typically closed because of coverage of challenging snow, was closed because of too much snow.  It was sort of a shame because it looked really nice.

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12 minutes ago, J.Spin said:

LOL PF, I was going to take that exact picture when we were out at the mountain on Sunday.  It’s crazy to think that Upper Goat there, which is more typically closed because of coverage of challenging snow, was closed because of too much snow.  It was sort of a shame because it looked really nice.

I think I heard Ski Patrol was flagging the high snow marks on some trees in order to look at them in the summer.  The Upper Liftline is incredible.  Even if those rocks melt quicker that is one massive drift shaped into the mountain that happens to occupy the Upper Liftline area.

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7 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

I think I heard Ski Patrol was flagging the high snow marks on some trees in order to look at them in the summer.  The Upper Liftline is incredible.  Even if those rocks melt quicker that is one massive drift shaped into the mountain that happens to occupy the Upper Liftline area.

Oh, sorry, I'd written Goat there, but indeed meant Upper Liftline being closed due to the snow getting so close to the lift as you mentioned in one of your posts.  It's quite the impressive snowpack all around!

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I didn't drive to Sugarloaf early this morning due to weather forecast. Looks like they have avoided the rain. I'm going to wildcat tomorrow.

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Left metrowest a little after 5am this AM. Encountered rain just south of Ossippee on drive up rt. 16 but it was done by Tamworth. Looking up the valley in N. Conway, things looked pretty socked in. Luckily, I had found a comp ticket to Black Mtn. last nite so it was put to use. Word was that it was rainy up at Wildcat -from their website as well as skiers who got up there, turned around and spent the day at Black. Anyway, a few moments of light drizzle, it never warmed up - mid to upper 30s all day, stuck to groomers for majority of day. Black is an old throwback place with some fun terrain with good snow...if it had warmed up there was enough snow to ski some of that terrain but I didn't bother due to firmness. Lot's of AT touring going up all day - broke the code at end of day why, there is a specialty shop in lodge focused on AT equipment. Encountered 5 or so miles of fairly dense fog over the snow pack just north of Wakefield NH. Arrived home to balmy temps with kids riding bikes in short sleeves!  

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Some footage of myself from last weekend March 23rd/24th and Magic Mountain and Jay Peak, respectively.

 

 It was interesting to see the difference in snow cover on the exposed rocks along the upper mountain ridge line at Jay.  March 11-13th the ridgeline was completely snow covered with the rocks being covered in rime.  On the 24th, at 830am as one of the first to reach the summit for the day, the exposed rocks were completely dry and it looked as if there was about 6” less snow as the week prior, despite receiving 24” both times. 

Rode for the last last time in PA for the season at Blue Mountain this past Thursday, March 28th. Nothing like riding through brown slush on certain trails, others were actually very nice with a lot of snow on them but the snow was super slow even with relatively fresh warm weather wax.   

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On 4/1/2019 at 1:07 AM, ChasingFlakes said:

Some footage of myself from last weekend March 23rd/24th and Magic Mountain and Jay Peak, respectively.

 

 It was interesting to see the difference in snow cover on the exposed rocks along the upper mountain ridge line at Jay.  March 11-13th the ridgeline was completely snow covered with the rocks being covered in rime.  On the 24th, at 830am as one of the first to reach the summit for the day, the exposed rocks were completely dry and it looked as if there was about 6” less snow as the week prior, despite receiving 24” both times. 

Rode for the last last time in PA for the season at Blue Mountain this past Thursday, March 28th. Nothing like riding through brown slush on certain trails, others were actually very nice with a lot of snow on them but the snow was super slow even with relatively fresh warm weather wax.   

Love that first jump you did over that waterfall! 

Just checked in at Jay Peak Stateside. Hoping we get the 3-5inches tomorrow night into Saturday to cover up the hardpack.   

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10 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Man sugar loaf will be sick this week. 

12-18 on top not bad.

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