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August dawgs are barking ... but it looks like the month may split


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1 minute ago, dendrite said:

Most of the late Aug/Sep record mins at CON are from the 60s and 70s.

1960s and 1970s everywhere. Acid was popular during that time too?

8/16 37 in 1972 38 in 1974 38 in 1899
8/17 40 in 1979 40 in 1961 40 in 1902
8/18 39 in 1941 40 in 1918 43 in 1980+
8/19 38 in 1968 39 in 1977 42 in 1988+
8/20 38 in 1975 40 in 1944 41 in 1964+
8/21 35 in 1975 37 in 1897 38 in 1977
8/22 34 in 1982 35 in 1894 37 in 1969
8/23 36 in 1894 38 in 1988 38 in 1975
8/24 38 in 1987 38 in 1975 39 in 1965
8/25 33 in 1942 36 in 1987 36 in 1971
8/26 34 in 1942 35 in 1977 38 in 1963
8/27 36 in 1954 36 in 1894 37 in 1989+
8/28 38 in 1986 39 in 1941 39 in 1925+
8/29 32 in 1986 34 in 1941 35 in 1982
8/30 32 in 1965 33 in 1986 35 in 1976
8/31 29 in 1965 30 in 1976 36 in 1975+
9/1 36 in 1970 37 in 1976 37 in 1975+
9/2 34 in 1970 35 in 2017 35 in 1896
9/3 35 in 1970 36 in 1994 36 in 1958+
9/4 34 in 1987 34 in 1883 35 in 1994
9/5 33 in 1896 35 in 2000 35 in 1963
9/6 32 in 1902 33 in 2000 35 in 1984
9/7 33 in 1888 34 in 1984 34 in 1967+
9/8 32 in 1978 34 in 1980 34 in 1955+
9/9 30 in 1980 34 in 1978 35 in 2013+
9/10 29 in 1978 33 in 1956 34 in 1953
9/11 31 in 1967 31 in 1917 32 in 1995
9/12 30 in 1977 31 in 1985 32 in 1917
9/13 30 in 1985 31 in 1898 32 in 1978+
9/14 29 in 1911 30 in 1978 30 in 1975+
9/15 27 in 1975 27 in 1895 28 in 1913
9/16 27 in 1964 28 in 1899 29 in 1995+
9/17 28 in 1948 31 in 2013 31 in 1986+
9/18 29 in 1868 30 in 1950 31 in 1943
9/19 30 in 1990 30 in 1959 30 in 1956+
9/20 28 in 1993 28 in 1979 29 in 1941
9/21 28 in 1962 29 in 1973 29 in 1956
9/22 25 in 1871 28 in 1973 28 in 1962+
9/23 26 in 1904 27 in 1955 28 in 1925
9/24 24 in 1963 26 in 1974 26 in 1953
9/25 26 in 1963 27 in 1971 27 in 1950
9/26 27 in 1987 27 in 1950 27 in 1925+
9/27 22 in 1947 26 in 1965 29 in 1978+
9/28 21 in 1947 22 in 1965 28 in 1980
9/29 25 in 1947 26 in 2000 26 in 1914
9/30 20 in 1941 26 in 1992 27 in 1951+
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It's really a very bizarre look out there beyond D4 or 5 ... the Euro and GGEM really 'have their cake and eat it too,' in showing almost no meaningful recession of very tall heights/ride anomaly while engineering ways to keep the bottom of the atmosphere chilly...  

Not sure things won't break differently there... we'll see - 

On the other hand, as I said earlier ... man is the Euro really plumbing the troposphere N of the 60th parallel  ... Love that 510 core up there in the lower Beaufort Sea - day 10 tho

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2 hours ago, dendrite said:

1960s and 1970s everywhere. Acid was popular during that time too?

8/16 37 in 1972 38 in 1974 38 in 1899
8/17 40 in 1979 40 in 1961 40 in 1902
8/18 39 in 1941 40 in 1918 43 in 1980+
8/19 38 in 1968 39 in 1977 42 in 1988+
8/20 38 in 1975 40 in 1944 41 in 1964+
8/21 35 in 1975 37 in 1897 38 in 1977
8/22 34 in 1982 35 in 1894 37 in 1969
8/23 36 in 1894 38 in 1988 38 in 1975
8/24 38 in 1987 38 in 1975 39 in 1965
8/25 33 in 1942 36 in 1987 36 in 1971
8/26 34 in 1942 35 in 1977 38 in 1963
8/27 36 in 1954 36 in 1894 37 in 1989+
8/28 38 in 1986 39 in 1941 39 in 1925+
8/29 32 in 1986 34 in 1941 35 in 1982
8/30 32 in 1965 33 in 1986 35 in 1976
8/31 29 in 1965 30 in 1976 36 in 1975+
9/1 36 in 1970 37 in 1976 37 in 1975+
9/2 34 in 1970 35 in 2017 35 in 1896
9/3 35 in 1970 36 in 1994 36 in 1958+
9/4 34 in 1987 34 in 1883 35 in 1994
9/5 33 in 1896 35 in 2000 35 in 1963
9/6 32 in 1902 33 in 2000 35 in 1984
9/7 33 in 1888 34 in 1984 34 in 1967+
9/8 32 in 1978 34 in 1980 34 in 1955+
9/9 30 in 1980 34 in 1978 35 in 2013+
9/10 29 in 1978 33 in 1956 34 in 1953
9/11 31 in 1967 31 in 1917 32 in 1995
9/12 30 in 1977 31 in 1985 32 in 1917
9/13 30 in 1985 31 in 1898 32 in 1978+
9/14 29 in 1911 30 in 1978 30 in 1975+
9/15 27 in 1975 27 in 1895 28 in 1913
9/16 27 in 1964 28 in 1899 29 in 1995+
9/17 28 in 1948 31 in 2013 31 in 1986+
9/18 29 in 1868 30 in 1950 31 in 1943
9/19 30 in 1990 30 in 1959 30 in 1956+
9/20 28 in 1993 28 in 1979 29 in 1941
9/21 28 in 1962 29 in 1973 29 in 1956
9/22 25 in 1871 28 in 1973 28 in 1962+
9/23 26 in 1904 27 in 1955 28 in 1925
9/24 24 in 1963 26 in 1974 26 in 1953
9/25 26 in 1963 27 in 1971 27 in 1950
9/26 27 in 1987 27 in 1950 27 in 1925+
9/27 22 in 1947 26 in 1965 29 in 1978+
9/28 21 in 1947 22 in 1965 28 in 1980
9/29 25 in 1947 26 in 2000 26 in 1914
9/30 20 in 1941 26 in 1992 27 in 1951+

Glad we didn't live there lol, I lived on the coast, didn't you just post that summer lingers later on the coast

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6 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

Glad we didn't live there lol, I lived on the coast, didn't you just post that summer lingers later on the coast

PVD which is 45 miles north of me had much fewer . Yes and 75 was cold as f

 

PVD      
       
       
9/1 43 in 1975 47 in 1934 47 in 1912
       
       
9/13 44 in 1970 44 in 1967 44 in 1954+
       
9/15 38 in 1975 39 in 1913 40 in 1905
9/16 41 in 1964 42 in 1988 42 in 1913
       
9/20 38 in 1979 39 in 2014 39 in 1993+
       
9/23 38 in 1974 39 in 1976 39 in 1953+
9/24 34 in 1974 35 in 1953 35 in 1950
       
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7 hours ago, dendrite said:

I was including 1st 2nd and 3rd records. They’re loaded.

And I’m sure all of those record lows at CON resulted in the sweaty tiki bars and topless tanning you recall at PVD. lol

Some geography for you. Westerly RI and the beaches are 47 miles south of PVD . I am sure your weather is similar to Woodstock NH though. You should cherry pick some more UHI city data to back up your point though. 

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6 hours ago, Ginx snewx said:

Some geography for you. Westerly RI and the beaches are 47 miles south of PVD . I am sure your weather is similar to Woodstock NH though. You should cherry pick some more UHI city data to back up your point though. 

Steve...if CON is hitting 30F I doubt you are sweating your azz on a Westerly beach.

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2 hours ago, dendrite said:

Steve...if CON is hitting 30F I doubt you are sweating your azz on a Westerly beach.

Brian, who said I was. I stated I remember many warm Septembers growing up and spending time on the beach and hot classrooms, obviously some days were not. This is really nonsense from you. Of course your 1970s record min were followed by some pretty hot Sept days

Your records and a chart for Kingston RI the same year, yea I probably was surfing late month at age 13

9/1 36 in 1970 37 in 1976 37 in 1975+
9/2 34 in 1970 35 in 2017 35 in 1896
9/3 35 in 1970 36 in 1994 36 in 1958+

chart (1).jpeg

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19 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

Brian, who said I was. I stated I remember many warm Septembers growing up and spending time on the beach and hot classrooms, obviously some days were not. This is really nonsense from you

It was more of a fall month back then than it is now. GGW

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Just now, dendrite said:

It was more of a fall month back then than it is now. GGW

 

20 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

Brian, who said I was. I stated I remember many warm Septembers growing up and spending time on the beach and hot classrooms, obviously some days were not. This is really nonsense from you. Of course your 1970s record min were followed by some pretty hot Sept days

Your records and a chart for Kingston RI the same year, yea I probably was surfing late month at age 13

9/1 36 in 1970 37 in 1976 37 in 1975+
9/2 34 in 1970 35 in 2017 35 in 1896
9/3 35 in 1970 36 in 1994 36 in 1958+

chart (1).jpeg

More of a fall month in 1970 for sure, lets see some others 

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Model blends still doing it ...

We are enormous,... perhaps extraordinarily so, with heights over eastern N/A ... particularly south of the 50th parallel, right out to mid September as per present guidance tenor.  Yet, after about Thursday of this week, the days may turn out disproportionately cool at the surface - in other words, it would be an anomaly relative to the larger anomaly, offsetting the larger anomaly.  Interesting. 

This is all due to their creating these episodic high pressure bubbles over southern and southeastern Canada, then as these anticyclones smear east toward the Maritimes, they wedge in from the north, which of course means east wind for NE ... during a time where Tweeting meteorologist are trying to warn us that September is above normal.  They may be right, because such a pattern could keep the diurnal minimums somewhat elevated, such that the total 24-hour periods end up a tick or two above even though no one is aware of it...  This summer really has been a creative journey in atmospheric deception... fascinating.  

The Euro did back off a little on the longevity of the east wind from late Thursday through Sunday... It now shows more of a "COL" type pressure pattern evolving by/over the weekend, which would terminate the east wind for all but the coastal towns.   

Even if the high pressure bully in from the north episodes turn out to be over engineered by the models ... it seems there's not as much heat being ejected from SW.  We could end up mega heights 'till the 15th of the month, but with the heat gutted and evacuated out of the ridging...meh. 

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1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said:

Brian, who said I was. I stated I remember many warm Septembers growing up and spending time on the beach and hot classrooms, obviously some days were not. This is really nonsense from you. Of course your 1970s record min were followed by some pretty hot Sept days

Your records and a chart for Kingston RI the same year, yea I probably was surfing late month at age 13

9/1 36 in 1970 37 in 1976 37 in 1975+
9/2 34 in 1970 35 in 2017 35 in 1896
9/3 35 in 1970 36 in 1994 36 in 1958+

 

Meh...you gave the implication that those decades were no different than what we've experienced recently. Obviously there were warm and humid Sep days back then. Sep used to have a good mix of summer and fall...it has basically been a summer month lately. That's all I'm saying.

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41 minutes ago, dendrite said:

Meh...you gave the implication that those decades were no different than what we've experienced recently. Obviously there were warm and humid Sep days back then. Sep used to have a good mix of summer and fall...it has basically been a summer month lately. That's all I'm saying.

I agree with you regarding Septembers at 1 time having a good mix of summer and fall. Clearly GW has taken root in New England.

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1 minute ago, Great Snow 1717 said:

I agree with you regarding Septembers at 1 time having a good mix of summer and fall. Clearly GW has taken root in New England.

That Kingston chart trend looks too steep to be from GW, but I'm no expert on that. That's like a bull market chart where the trend is up and each successive dip is higher than the previous bottom.

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44 minutes ago, snowman21 said:

That Kingston chart trend looks too steep to be from GW, but I'm no expert on that. That's like a bull market chart where the trend is up and each successive dip is higher than the previous bottom.

Over the course of the last 20 or so years the vast majority of daily min(record low high) and max highs have been set on the "warm" side. And just like with a stock chart there is a causal effect. And the best bet is GW is causing it.

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