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July 2018 Discussions & Observations Thread


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1pm..90s for many.

 

 

CITY           SKY/WX    TMP DP  RH WIND   REMARKS
Central Park   FAIR      90  58  33 CALM      
Bronx Bot Gard   N/A     90  57  33 SW12      
Bronx Lehman C   N/A     91  59  33 W6     HX  90
LaGuardia Arpt FAIR      92  55  28 W10    HX  90
Queens College   N/A     88  55  33 SW13        N/A
Kennedy Intl   FAIR      86  65  49 S13       
Breezy Point     N/A     81 N/A N/A S6          N/A
Brooklyn Coll    N/A     88  59  37 S8          N/A
Staten Island    N/A     90  59  35 W12         N/A
Newark/Liberty FAIR      93  55  27 S10G22 HX  91
Teterboro      FAIR      90  60  36 SW8       
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21 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

It's very likely that the worst of the heat/humidity is behind us. They'll still be plenty of hot & humid days but not to the extent of late June/early July. 

Kind of like today, it's in the 90s but dews are under 60 so it's not oppressive.

next 3 weeks are the hottest climo wise...once to early August daylight starts dropping more rapidly and average highs start to drop...so it gets tougher anyway....

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2 hours ago, SnoSki14 said:

It's very likely that the worst of the heat/humidity is behind us. They'll still be plenty of hot & humid days but not to the extent of late June/early July. 

Kind of like today, it's in the 90s but dews are under 60 so it's not oppressive.

I guess you were not paying attention the last few Septembers, we have no idea if that was the worst..highs only topped out at 96 for 3 days, we can easily pass that

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35 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

yeah we had some heat 2nd half of last September...but generally speaking the big big heat get tougher after about 8/10 or so....

While there has plenty of heat in September during the 2010's, the last 100 degree temperatures  were in 1993 and 1953.

Even August has been lacking in the 100 degree department. Last August to see 100 around here was 2006.

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46 minutes ago, bluewave said:

While there has plenty of heat in September during the 2010's, the last 100 degree temperatures  were in 1993 and 1953.

Even August has been lacking in the 100 degree department. Last August to see 100 around here was 2006.

August  1st, 2nd and 3rd 2006... Hit 100° at my station all three days. Whew!

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1 hour ago, doncat said:

August  1st, 2nd and 3rd 2006... Hit 100° at my station all three days. Whew!

Yeah, the 2000's tied the most August 100 degree days at Newark on record for any decade. There were 9 days 2000-2009 vs 0 so far 2010- 2017.

August 100 degree days at Newark:

2010's.....0 so far

2000's.....9

1990's.....3

1980's.....0

1970's.....1

1960's....0

1950's....5

1940's....9

1930's....0

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1 hour ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, the 2000's tied the most August 100 degree days at Newark on record for any decade. There were 9 days 2000-2009 vs 0 so far 2010- 2017.

August 100 degree days at Newark:

2010's.....0 so far

2000's.....9

1990's.....3

1980's.....0

1970's.....1

1960's....0

1950's....5

1940's....9

1930's....0

 

Do you think the nature of the heat is responsible for the lack of 100+ temps?  I think most of our heat in summer over the last several yesrs is moisture laden with high dews.

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the 1950's had the most 100 degree days in NYC at the park with 12...from 1948 to 1957 it hit 100 seven out of the ten years...I believe there were 16 days in that period with a 100 degree day...at the time some blamed it on A Bomb testing...the 1940's continue to have the most 90 degree days with 202...with the nine 90 days this year so far the 2010's are averaging 18.3 for the nine years...

Three month period from 6/1 - 8/31
decade...ave temp/precip...90+days100+
1870's.....73.2.....13.75".....101.....0.....
1880's.....72.4.....11.88".......81.....1.....
1890's.....73.3.....11.18".....138.....1.....
1900's.....73.3.....12.87".....101.....2.....
1910's.....72.7.....11.58".....115.....3.....
1920's.....72.6.....12.98".....128.....2.....
1930's.....74.6.....12.40".....189.....8.....
1940's.....74.2.....11.86".....202.....8.....
1950's.....74.4.......9.86".....175...12.....
1960's.....74.2.....10.54".....181.....4.....
1970's.....74.6.....12.61".....183.....3.....
1980's.....75.0.....13.03".....195.....2.....
1990's.....75.0.....11.90".....197.....8.....
2000's.....74.3.....15.66".....123.....1.....
2010's.....75.8.....13.51".....156.....5.....2010-17
1870-
2009 ave 73.8.....12.29".....149.....4.....
1980-
2009 ave 74.8.....13.53".....172.....4.....

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2 hours ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, the 2000's tied the most August 100 degree days at Newark on record for any decade. There were 9 days 2000-2009 vs 0 so far 2010- 2017.

August 100 degree days at Newark:

2010's.....0 so far

2000's.....9

1990's.....3

1980's.....0

1970's.....1

1960's....0

1950's....5

1940's....9

1930's....0

Over the past 62 years 2001 is the only time Philadelphia has recorded triple digits during the month of AUG

Overall Philadelphia has recorded more 100 degree days during the month of June than August

 

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10 hours ago, winterwarlock said:

I guess you were not paying attention the last few Septembers, we have no idea if that was the worst..highs only topped out at 96 for 3 days, we can easily pass that

I had 98 max with a 110 HI, that's going to be hard to top especially in September. 

You also lose that intense sting from the sun by then. 

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10 hours ago, NewYorkweatherfan said:

The heat yes but not the humidity

I don't know about that, I had dews that were pushing 80F and the 70+ dew stretch lasted almost a week. 

Right now there's nothing to indicate we'll see a repeat of that, in fact a troughy late July/August is much more likely.

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11 hours ago, Sundog said:

 

Do you think the nature of the heat is responsible for the lack of 100+ temps?  I think most of our heat in summer over the last several yesrs is moisture laden with high dews.

August 2016 was the most noteworthy for the historic dewpoints. But nearly all the 100 degree heat in the 2010's has occurred in July. You can see how July and August traded places form the 2000's to 2010's.

July Newark 100 degree days.

2010's...12

2000's...2

1990's...12

1980's....8

1970's....2

1960's....5

1950's....6

1940's....5

1930's....3

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Upton deliberating making changes to the forecast for today in their morning AFD. Could be a case of surprise convective afternoon/evening showers/tshwrs as some vorticity rides down the trough with lingering moisture and boundaries still in play from yesterday. There's a CU field developing over the Hudson Valley that appears to initiate the activity - HRRR, NAM, GFS, on board. SPC, however, does not even have the northeast in a categorical assessment in their latest update, atm. 

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