CoastalWx Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Oh yeah I wasn't really looking at it from that angle, just that the highest above normal was probably in SNE and it's funny, with only like 4-5 below normal snow winters for a bunch of SNE since like 2000... it would have to take one awful looking winter pattern to actually forecast below normal snowfall going forward. Just when you think about it, probably lean snowier in a seasonal outlook when in doubt. There is no question we've been living the good life. To those under 30, relish these winters. They will not last despite what the Man in Moosup thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn0waddict Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Gfs backed off pretty signicantly on the backdoor front, at least for SNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I thought it was a pretty epic winter in SVT. Snow pack from late November until current. I think Friday should knock it down to patches. February actually wasn’t bad snow wise with two 12”+ events. And then the epic March with 18” 36” and 20”. Seasonal total near 150” at 1600’. Hoping to be back at the same house next season. Though I will not mind if my friends decide rent something closer to 2k! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: I thought it was a pretty epic winter in SVT. Snow pack from late November until current. I think Friday should knock it down to patches. February actually wasn’t bad snow wise with two 12”+ events. And then the epic March with 18” 36” and 20”. Seasonal total near 150” at 1600’. Hoping to be back at the same house next season. Though I will not mind if my friends decide rent something closer to 2k! Yeah definitely Epic down in SVT. No doubt about it. It was good up here, normal snowfall for me with extremely long period of snow cover and no melt outs even at home during met winter. But it was no last winter that's for sure up here. I'd sign up for this winter each year though, 120" or so at home and 260" for the 3,000ft level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Yeah definitely Epic down in SVT. No doubt about it. It was good up here, normal snowfall for me with extremely long period of snow cover and no melt outs even at home during met winter. But it was no last winter that's for sure up here. I'd sign up for this winter each year though, 120" or so at home and 260" for the 3,000ft level. Here it was almost identical in total to last winter - 172" this winter vs 175" last winter. We had uninterrupted snow cover Nov - Apr, but last year had more consistent and frequent snow. If you take out the crazy 50" or so week, this winter definitely would have been quite a bit behind last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 33 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: I thought it was a pretty epic winter in SVT. Snow pack from late November until current. I think Friday should knock it down to patches. February actually wasn’t bad snow wise with two 12”+ events. And then the epic March with 18” 36” and 20”. Seasonal total near 150” at 1600’. Hoping to be back at the same house next season. Though I will not mind if my friends decide rent something closer to 2k! I posted this in the NNE thread a few weeks back: Season total at 137.7". I have been looking at local COOPs at all valley locations in SVT, records go back to the 1880s, I cant find anything higher than what I have this year so far. There are 3 COOPs with pretty extensive data.(and a few down in Bennington and even up in RUT) There are caveats--some missing years and also how those COOPs are measuring-Im not sure what methods they have done throughout the years. If they are doing just once a day at 6-7am then that would cut down totals for sure. Taking out the measuring debate and if all things were equal, then 137.7" would be the most actually documented in the SVT valleys west of the Greens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: There is no question we've been living the good life. To those under 30, relish these winters. They will not last despite what the Man in Moosup thinks. Broken record every year. Someday you will be right until then stfu lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 NAM, enjoy EMA it's the only mank you got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 39 minutes ago, backedgeapproaching said: I posted this in the NNE thread a few weeks back: Season total at 137.7". I have been looking at local COOPs at all valley locations in SVT, records go back to the 1880s, I cant find anything higher than what I have this year so far. There are 3 COOPs with pretty extensive data.(and a few down in Bennington and even up in RUT) There are caveats--some missing years and also how those COOPs are measuring-Im not sure what methods they have done throughout the years. If they are doing just once a day at 6-7am then that would cut down totals for sure. Taking out the measuring debate and if all things were equal, then 137.7" would be the most actually documented in the SVT valleys west of the Greens That's impressive, send this to NWS ALB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 hour ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: I thought it was a pretty epic winter in SVT. Snow pack from late November until current. I think Friday should knock it down to patches. February actually wasn’t bad snow wise with two 12”+ events. And then the epic March with 18” 36” and 20”. Seasonal total near 150” at 1600’. Hoping to be back at the same house next season. Though I will not mind if my friends decide rent something closer to 2k! It was March that really did it for us. DJF were pretty close to average, but the 90" total during the first 2 weeks of March here is what really turned it into a stellar season. I doubt I'm just patches here after Friday, but the 1,500 to 2,000' range will likely be more patchy. It will knock the pack down for sure, but I still have over 2' of snow on 95% of the property. People are still out on their sleds as conditions are stellar. 34 minutes ago, backedgeapproaching said: I posted this in the NNE thread a few weeks back: Season total at 137.7". I have been looking at local COOPs at all valley locations in SVT, records go back to the 1880s, I cant find anything higher than what I have this year so far. There are 3 COOPs with pretty extensive data.(and a few down in Bennington and even up in RUT) There are caveats--some missing years and also how those COOPs are measuring-Im not sure what methods they have done throughout the years. If they are doing just once a day at 6-7am then that would cut down totals for sure. Taking out the measuring debate and if all things were equal, then 137.7" would be the most actually documented in the SVT valleys west of the Greens You're probably in the best spot for anyplace west of the Greens in VT. Manchester is in a narrow valley bounded by the Greens to the east and the Taconics to the west, so downslope effects are minimized a bit there. Narrow valleys are generally better for snow than the wider ones like the Champlain or Hudson Valleys. I don't know what the seasonal total is here since I just moved here on 3/1, but I've had 100" since then. I'm guessing DJF were somewhere around 100", so that would put my total near the 200" mark, maybe a little more, I don't know for sure. There's a COOP in Wilmington at 1,500' and he's had 169.5" and appears to be pretty reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, wxmanmitch said: It was March that really did it for us. DJF were pretty close to average, but the 90" total during the first 2 weeks of March here is what really turned it into a stellar season. I doubt I'm just patches here after Friday, but the 1,500 to 2,000' range will likely be more patchy. It will knock the pack down for sure, but I still have over 2' of snow on 95% of the property. People are still out on their sleds as conditions are stellar. You're probably in the best spot for anyplace west of the Greens in VT. Manchester is in a narrow valley bounded by the Greens to the east and the Taconics to the west, so downslope effects are minimized a bit there. Narrow valleys are generally better for snow than the wider ones like the Champlain or Hudson Valleys. I don't know what the seasonal total is here since I just moved here on 3/1, but I've had 100" since then. I'm guessing DJF were somewhere around 100", so that would put my total near the 200" mark, maybe a little more, I don't know for sure. There's a COOP in Wilmington at 1,500' and he's had 169.5" and appears to be pretty reliable. You had like 48" in that one event, but how did you do in the others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: You had like 48" in that one event, but how did you do in the others? 12" on 3/2 45" on 3/7-8 8" from 3/8-10 from lake effect and upslope 7" on 3/13 17" of upslope on 3/14-15 1" on 3/16 0.5" on 4/2 7.2" on 4/6-7 2" on 4/8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 LOL, what a weenie spot. How's the cold though? That's got to be brutal in mid winter. They probably had highs of -10 during the stretch we had after Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: LOL, what a weenie spot. How's the cold though? That's got to be brutal in mid winter. They probably had highs of -10 during the stretch we had after Christmas. Rode for a week in N Maine the day after Xmas in temps of that magnitude, and even colder...and it can be draining..even when geared up with the best clothing available. You don’t take off the gloves or keep the helmets open/off for more than a few short minutes at a time that’s for sure! Then add the wind chill of 80-100 mph+ speeds on the sleds at those temps...and your at temps that are rarely seen or experienced by most peeps. Certainly a different ballgame for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 18z GFS eternal damnation of cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 0z nam is cold for Saturday and Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 17 minutes ago, ineedsnow said: 0z nam is cold for Saturday and Sunday Near freezing here Sat afternoon. WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma blizzard Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, ineedsnow said: 0z nam is cold for Saturday and Sunday you aren't kidding .. coldest run since 12z Euro from yesterday absolutely absurd low lvl cold .. if theres low lvl lift it could be snowing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78Blizzard Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Euro shows a lot of snow for this time of year in the next 10 days for much of the northern 1/3 of the country, even excluding normal mountain area snows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice1972 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Lets be honest.....February ruined everything...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 6z NAM continues the faster door passage and cold. Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 This is insane on the EURO...Saturday afternoon, middle of the day in mid-April and an ice-storm in progress. 29F at MVL here while CT is nearing 80F at 18z. Big LOL at 22F at SLK for max heating time of day in mid-April with precip falling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Euro is crazy... like 3-8" of snow and 0.5-1.0" of ice in north/central VT. It has like 1.75" of QPF at sub-freezing surface temps, lol. Double digit snowfall for the northern Champlain Valley into northern NY too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 6z GFS also with some crippling April ice in spots along with inches of sleet. This could be quite the system for mid-April in terms of ice/sleet. Juicy over-running and temps are in like the mid-20s for it. Not even marginal 31-32F stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Disgusting. Your winter means cold rain here. Effing blows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Disgusting. Your winter means cold rain here. Effing blows. I wish we could get it further south... You can have the ice down there, I'll take snow. I still think it ticks a bit warmer as I just have a hard time seeing temps that cold during the afternoon in April while its raining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 14 hours ago, alex said: Here it was almost identical in total to last winter - 172" this winter vs 175" last winter. We had uninterrupted snow cover Nov - Apr, but last year had more consistent and frequent snow. If you take out the crazy 50" or so week, this winter definitely would have been quite a bit behind last season. Some similarities to last year also, with 3 major snowstorms though that winter had a lot more mid-range events than this, or why it brought 20" more snow than this season (pending anything we might see over the weekend.) Last winter was cold Dec and Mar, warm Jan-Feb. This winter was brutally cold for about 2 weeks before-after New Years but meh for cold otherwise. I'd give 17-18 a solid B for snow and C/C- for temps, probably a C+ overall, edging toward B-. Hoping this next 5 days does it for messy cold this spring, but it's NNE so more yuck is likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazey Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Typical April weather. We transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Saturday is totally gone on the NAM save maybe for a few hours in SW CT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 The Cheesey Super Swiss (which seems to have a good handle on surface temps) is chilly on Saturday for much of SNE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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