40/70 Benchmark Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Here is a comp of weak-mod el nino Decembers in the vicinity of a solar min: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Like I said, doesn't have to be an awful month, but I'm just leery of any NAO help in the first half. EURO appears to have some DEC NAO assist in December, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I'm all ears if anyone can enlighten me as to what will provide the impetus for a sustained negative NAO any time soon...the polar stratosphere is fairly cold, the SAI blows, SST configuration looks hostile and el nino climo is to back load. Again, I'm just talking about before the new year....I have no issue with it later on in the season and the Pacific pattern looks fine early, too. I just have a hard time envisioning how we arrive at the December 2009 that the EURO implies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 8 hours ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I don't get it. My point is blindly trusting the EURO doesn't always work...I'm not sure we are going to get off to a banner start in December. ACATT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 On 10/20/2018 at 12:39 PM, mreaves said: That storm still gives me nightmares. Lots of rain here while heavy snow not too far away. I still have those same nightmares. By far the ugliest 10" snowfall of my experience, and me with a disabled snowblower (that proved to be un-reparable as the required parts were no longer available.) We had 7.2" snow on Feb 25-26 from 1.81" LE, and by the time I got home from my day-long meeting (had left early for BGR when my 2WD pickup was equal to the 3" new), that snow had been compacted by nearly an inch of that 33-34° RA, resulting in a 7" layer of glop with 2.8" LE on a thawed gravel driveway, loads of fun to move with the scoop. It pushed much more readily thru the 24" dump a year earlier. That 2010 storm came shortly before the midpoint of our string of 46 consecutive days with AN temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, tamarack said: I still have those same nightmares. By far the ugliest 10" snowfall of my experience, and me with a disabled snowblower (that proved to be un-reparable as the required parts were no longer available.) We had 7.2" snow on Feb 25-26 from 1.81" LE, and by the time I got home from my day-long meeting (had left early for BGR when my 2WD pickup was equal to the 3" new), that snow had been compacted by nearly an inch of that 33-34° RA, resulting in a 7" layer of glop with 2.8" LE on a thawed gravel driveway, loads of fun to move with the scoop. It pushed much more readily thru the 24" dump a year earlier. That 2010 storm came shortly before the midpoint of our string of 46 consecutive days with AN temps. I remember when SNE weenies were high 5ing and spiking the ball and I dared to mention the elephant in the room-that being the 38 degree temperature at caribou. Foretold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, weathafella said: I remember when SNE weenies were high 5ing and spiking the ball and I dared to mention the elephant in the room-that being the 38 degree temperature at caribou. Foretold Yes you did and i remember that well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, weathafella said: I remember when SNE weenies were high 5ing and spiking the ball and I dared to mention the elephant in the room-that being the 38 degree temperature at caribou. Foretold The New Years retro-bomb utterly destroyed 09-10 for Maine, especially northern Maine. CAR was out-snowed by BWI, which I think is a rarer event than '38 or the Octobomb, and the average temp up there for JFMA was farther above their 2nd mildest for that 1/3 year than was #2 from #25 (79 years' record.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 8 hours ago, CoastalWx said: ACATT ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: ? All cold all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, dryslot said: All cold all the time Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, 40/70 Benchmark said: Lol Its a northern CT thing apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I like it. Have to have fun with Ginxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: I like it. Have to have fun with Ginxy. He’s drawing a lot of maps on his virtual etch a sketch recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 23 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: He’s drawing a lot of maps on his virtual etch a sketch recently. I saw. My almost 6 yr old approves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: I saw. My almost 6 yr old approves. Fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Answer to Rays questioning Euro Dec. low sea ice, rapid buildup in ECanada of cyrosphere . We party. Analog 02/03 continues 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Ginx snewx said: Answer to Rays questioning Euro Dec. low sea ice, rapid buildup in ECanada of cyrosphere . We party. Analog 02/03 continues That year I got above normal snows, 55.5" is my guess at our snow that winter. Two decent to great snowstorms in February, the 7th noreaster and the 17/18th President's Day Two 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Ginx snewx said: Answer to Rays questioning Euro Dec. low sea ice, rapid buildup in ECanada of cyrosphere . We party. Analog 02/03 continues We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Paul Gordon Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 But if we get a big late October snow doesn't that automatically cancel winter and throw us into a 2011-12 hyper-overdrive "torch"? Inquiring minds want to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Yes, just one flake in Oct south of pike means we cancel winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 I would love me some Dec-Jan 2002-2003....classic interior focused first half. I was in the marine reserves prepping to be mobilzed. I remember en route to pick some guys up in Providence, once I hit the pike/128 interchange...poof it went. I had like a foot of cement pack in Wilmington, and at the the training site in Devens there was like 18 of fluff". I'd imagine my new hood in Methuen had similar to Devens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenCtyWx Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 I think 02-03 gets overlooked for how great of a winter it was for a wide geographic area. Most areas from the Mid Atlantic to New England and even into Central PA and Upstate NY were well above normal for snowfall. The consistency of the cold was pretty remarkable as well. Anything even remotely resembling that winter would be great. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 50 minutes ago, WarrenCtyWx said: I think 02-03 gets overlooked for how great of a winter it was for a wide geographic area. Most areas from the Mid Atlantic to New England and even into Central PA and Upstate NY were well above normal for snowfall. The consistency of the cold was pretty remarkable as well. Anything even remotely resembling that winter would be great. Yeah it was only really kind of a dud in far NNE...esp up into Maine...though it was frigid there. But elsewhere it was a pretty monster winter. ORH had their 4th snowiest winter on record that season and only 1993-1994 was a colder winter there in the past 3+ decades (for BOS '02-'03 was actually colder than '93-'94 believe it or not and 5th coldest since Logan airport became the site ). It def gets the reputation as a Mid-Atlantic centric winter but the monster snows were actually spread out much further than just that region. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 I had to look it up, It was not very good at all up here, But just like 09-10, Would it happen again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, dryslot said: I had to look it up, It was not very good at all up here, But just like 09-10, Would it happen again? Similar to 09-10 for snowfall, but could hardly be more different for temps and snow retention. 1"+ OG for 146 days, #2 behind 14-15 for that stat, while 09-10 had but 86 days, tied with 99-00 for 2nd lowest. (Behind 15-16, of course) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 3 hours ago, ORH_wxman said: Yeah it was only really kind of a dud in far NNE...esp up into Maine...though it was frigid there. But elsewhere it was a pretty monster winter. ORH had their 4th snowiest winter on record that season and only 1993-1994 was a colder winter there in the past 3+ decades (for BOS '02-'03 was actually colder than '93-'94 believe it or not and 5th coldest since Logan airport became the site ). It def gets the reputation as a Mid-Atlantic centric winter but the monster snows were actually spread out much further than just that region. It was only a monster into the deep interior of sne....it was not here. I had like 86"...very good, but not obscene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 We had winter from October to April. Probably most underrated winter ever which fantastic second half on coast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 2 hours ago, tamarack said: Similar to 09-10 for snowfall, but could hardly be more different for temps and snow retention. 1"+ OG for 146 days, #2 behind 14-15 for that stat, while 09-10 had but 86 days, tied with 99-00 for 2nd lowest. (Behind 15-16, of course) Cold and dry not really anything i care for to much, Although Ice fishing would be solid and can switch it up from riding if need be, Can always find something recreational to do up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenCtyWx Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Yeah I didn't mean that it was historic everywhere, just that you'd be hard pressed to find a location that got completely screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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