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March or BUST! - Pattern & Model Discussion

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52 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

Ok, yesterday you were on the powder train lol.  Today you're really going bonkers with this....Pump the brakes James....probably not going to happen anywhere close to the way you're imagination is envisioning!  

I remember 82 very well...the chances of this being that are Slim to none..not saying it can't happen, but before we go hog wild let's be reasonable ok.  Those are very rare.

 

 

1982 was the most anomalous winter storm of my experience, and even if I were 60 years younger, I wouldn't expect to see another such January-in-April event in my lifetime.  I've got NYC records back thru 1869 and they show no other April storm remotely like it - the 2 that brought slightly more snow were both near-32 paste bombs.  Here in the foothills, where late season snow should be more common, 17 of our 19 Aprils here have failed to produce a snowfall greater than 4".  Color me skeptical.

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7 minutes ago, tamarack said:

1982 was the most anomalous winter storm of my experience, and even if I were 60 years younger, I wouldn't expect to see another such January-in-April event in my lifetime.  I've got NYC records back thru 1869 and they show no other April storm remotely like it - the 2 that brought slightly more snow were both near-32 paste bombs.  Here in the foothills, where late season snow should be more common, 17 of our 19 Aprils here have failed to produce a snowfall greater than 4".  Color me skeptical.

If I remember correctly, weren't temperatures the next day brutally cold for April.  Thinking lows were in the teens!  I'll pass on a repeat this year since I'm flying to England next Thursday evening!

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1 hour ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Does anything about the upcoming pattern remind you of April 2, 1974 in Fort Kent?

Lived in BGR then.  Also, 4/2/74 was a modest 3-4" event for N.Maine.  Maybe you mean April 3-4 a year later, when they had a full-on major blizzard, 16" in Ft. Kent, 20" in Farmington, 12" of IP/SN in BGR - biggest accumulation in our 3 years there.  Temps were +/-30 for that one 10-15° milder than 1982.  I went out during the late evening and was surprised there was so little on the ground, until I dug down - though my shoes only sank in about 2" there was 8-9" of 5:1 mix, and the most painful sleet I've ever felt as it was propelled by gusts 50+.  The Napoli-pizza addict students from Maine Maritime Academy (Castine had gusts to 80) had to move trees out of the way in order to get their Friday evening fix.  A (future) co-worker, watching the snow fall Friday night at the Seven Islands house across border from St.-Pamphile, PQ, vowed that he would not remain snowbound the next day.  When dawn came, his 3/4 ton pickup had only a small patch of red showing above the drifts - no driving home to St. Francis that day.

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1 minute ago, tamarack said:

Lived in BGR then.  Also, 4/2/74 was a modest 3-4" event for N.Maine.  Maybe you mean April 3-4 a year later, when they had a full-on major blizzard, 16" in Ft. Kent, 20" in Farmington, 12" of IP/SN in BGR - biggest accumulation in our 3 years there.  I went out during the late evening and was surprised there was so little on the ground, until I dug down - though my shoes only sank in about 2" there was 8-9" of 5:1 mix, and the most painful sleet I've ever felt as it was propelled by gusts 50+.  The Napoli-pizza addict students from Maine Maritime Academy (Castine had gusts to 80) had to move trees out of the way in order to get their Friday evening fix.  A (future) co-worker, watching the snow fall Friday night at the Seven Islands house across border from St.-Pamphile, PQ, vowed that he would not remain snowbound the next day.  When dawn came, his 3/4 ton pickup had only a small patch of red showing above the drifts - no driving home to St. Francis that day.

I was just messing :lol:

I admire your Will like recollection, though.

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17 minutes ago, tamarack said:

1982 was the most anomalous winter storm of my experience, and even if I were 60 years younger, I wouldn't expect to see another such January-in-April event in my lifetime.  I've got NYC records back thru 1869 and they show no other April storm remotely like it - the 2 that brought slightly more snow were both near-32 paste bombs.  Here in the foothills, where late season snow should be more common, 17 of our 19 Aprils here have failed to produce a snowfall greater than 4".  Color me skeptical.

Yes April of 82 was a full blown blizzard here...a truly extreme mid winter event, that happened in April was exactly what it was...as rare as they come for sure.  The chances of anything happening even half that extreme is truly very rare...

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8 minutes ago, HimoorWx said:

If I remember correctly, weren't temperatures the next day brutally cold for April.  Thinking lows were in the teens!  I'll pass on a repeat this year since I'm flying to England next Thursday evening!

Fort Kent temps at my place on 4/7, when most of the snow fell, were 17/10.  In Farmington, where most snow came on the 6th, that next day had 18/5.  Only the polar-gale day of 4/5/1995 (16/6) had colder April temps.

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5 minutes ago, tamarack said:

Lived in BGR then.  Also, 4/2/74 was a modest 3-4" event for N.Maine.  Maybe you mean April 3-4 a year later, when they had a full-on major blizzard, 16" in Ft. Kent, 20" in Farmington, 12" of IP/SN in BGR - biggest accumulation in our 3 years there.  Temps were +/-30 for that one 10-15° milder than 1982.  I went out during the late evening and was surprised there was so little on the ground, until I dug down - though my shoes only sank in about 2" there was 8-9" of 5:1 mix, and the most painful sleet I've ever felt as it was propelled by gusts 50+.  The Napoli-pizza addict students from Maine Maritime Academy (Castine had gusts to 80) had to move trees out of the way in order to get their Friday evening fix.  A (future) co-worker, watching the snow fall Friday night at the Seven Islands house across border from St.-Pamphile, PQ, vowed that he would not remain snowbound the next day.  When dawn came, his 3/4 ton pickup had only a small patch of red showing above the drifts - no driving home to St. Francis that day.

Wow he was out in the allagash on those dirt roads during that one then...I've sledded out to St. Pamphlet a time or two...nothing out there for miles except those roads...beautiful country for sure, but remote area no doubt.  Ya, he wasn't getting back to ST. Francis in that type of snow in a truck...Mountain/powder sleds of today for sure...but no way any wheeled vehicle is going through snow of that magnitude being in that remote an area.  

 

Neat story Tamarack..thanks for sharing.

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1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Lube up the sleds. Get em out for one final slip n slide

No more time, Its done.

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6 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

Yes April of 82 was a full blown blizzard here...a truly extreme mid winter event, that happened in April was exactly what it was...as rare as they come for sure.  The chances of anything happening even half that extreme is truly very rare...

In addition, it's the only snowstorm I can recall that pounded CHI, NYC and CAR.  Normally, storms that hit the first 2 keep heading east, and that was predicted for 1982 - less than 6 hours before they had SN+ the CAR forecast was for cold, windy with flurries.  26.3" of flurries.
 

It's funny that there was actually an event up there on that date, though...I just pulled a random date from tamarack's prime out of my rear.

:lol::weenie::lol:

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1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Lube up the sleds. Get em out for one final slip n slide

Everybody is still riding up in Maine..from Millinocket west/Jackman/Eustis, and North will be riding another two weeks.  So they're still out.

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2 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

Ya that's the problem when you work...you only have so much time to use/get away.  

I'm booked until may now on the weekends.

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5 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

Wow he was out in the allagash on those dirt roads during that one then...I've sledded out to St. Pamphlet a time or two...nothing out there for miles except those roads...beautiful country for sure, but remote area no doubt.  Ya, he wasn't getting back to ST. Francis in that type of snow in a truck...Mountain/powder sleds of today for sure...but no way any wheeled vehicle is going through snow of that magnitude being in that remote an area.  

 

Neat story Tamarack..thanks for sharing.

Great memories - love to brag them up.  And since the Ft. Kent/Estcourt/St.-Pamphile triangle surrounded my workspace 1976-85, there were plenty of stories.  And given the magnitude of the snow-clearing iron there, Jeff (not that Jeff) was probably able to drive home Saturday afternoon - Sunday morning latest. 

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1 hour ago, dendrite said:

Looks like the Brood X Tolland cicada is making its first appearance since 2008. All cold all the time. It's eating all of the Napril DIT larvae.

Your wit is getting sharper and sharper.  Zeus should feel threatened.

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47 minutes ago, tamarack said:

In addition, it's the only snowstorm I can recall that pounded CHI, NYC and CAR.  Normally, storms that hit the first 2 keep heading east, and that was predicted for 1982 - less than 6 hours before they had SN+ the CAR forecast was for cold, windy with flurries.  26.3" of flurries.
 

It's funny that there was actually an event up there on that date, though...I just pulled a random date from tamarack's prime out of my rear.

:lol::weenie::lol:

I was 12 years old and if I remember correctly that was the storm where I picked up a good 14" or so where I was living ...Just south of Albany.
Maybe more?  

Will with the snow map?

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7 minutes ago, Cold Miser said:

I was 12 years old and if I remember correctly that was the storm where I picked up a good 14" or so where I was living ...Just south of Albany.
Maybe more?  

Will with the snow map?

I had just turned 14 a couple weeks before(8th grade)...it was truly an event to remember for sure.  I'd love another one like it soon.

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24 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

Is that the storm Will was abandoned out on his front driveway as a toddler?

Yes. Just left out in the cold waiting for a good family to take him in. 

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NUMBER ONE  those that say cant get good snowstorm in april  is wrong. With this weather pattern is very goo likely chance of a good snowstorm coming to sne area during next two weeks of april .  very cold air during next two weeks of april for sne area and the northeast area.

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Nobody said we can't get a good snowstorm in early April.  But there is never a "very good chance" that you get one in April...odds are always stacked way against us at this time.  So there is a much better chance you miss out than score.  And chances are we miss out this April as well....just the way the odds are at this very late juncture.

 

And can you please take the time to proofread your posts and put some punctuation into them...

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