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The March Lion Storm


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32 minutes ago, DAWGNKITTEN said:

I have a really stupid question here...I have been watching radar when I can and the last half hour especially.  The whole system looks like it is getting smaller, but according to NOAA, the system is going to head north of 69 later on.  Is the system heading east it north?  I am lost.  

You’re correct that the system is moving more east than north.  The heaviest band along I-69 east of Flint should slowly pull east over the next few hours, but some light snow may expand back farther northwest this evening as the northern stream system combines with the southern stream system, causing new snow to develop.  So a lot of moving parts.  

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1 hour ago, OHweather said:

You’re correct that the system is moving more east than north.  The heaviest band along I-69 east of Flint should slowly pull east over the next few hours, but some light snow may expand back farther northwest this evening as the northern stream system combines with the southern stream system, causing new snow to develop.  So a lot of moving parts.  

Thank you very much.  It started snowing here in Columbiaville around 3:30 and we have a light dusting on the ground now at 5:45.

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33 minutes ago, snowstormcanuck said:

Think my 2" call looks good here. Snow on radar is right on our doorsteps and slooooowly creeping north...but interesting that even under heavy returns YHM still reporting just overcast conditions. Must be a hell of a dry layer to puncture trough first.

You're right. Had a brief look at the traffic cameras in Hamilton and it doesn't look very "wet". This could have an impact on the final amount Hamilton may receive from this storm. We'll see if columns are more saturated here in Toronto. Windsor has been recording SN+ since 3pm. 

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2 minutes ago, Snowstorms said:

You're right. Had a brief look at the traffic cameras in Hamilton and it doesn't look very "wet". This could have an impact on the final amount Hamilton may receive from this storm. We'll see if columns are more saturated here in Toronto. Windsor has been recording SN+ since 3pm. 

+SN? Looks more like SN.

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48 minutes ago, snowstormcanuck said:

Think my 2" call looks good here. Snow on radar is right on our doorsteps and slooooowly creeping north...but interesting that even under heavy returns YHM still reporting just overcast conditions. Must be a hell of a dry layer to puncture trough first.

Been under decent returns here for two hours or so now but barely a dusting on the car tops. Definitely dry air abound and flake size is quite small. No accumulation on pavement at all but I guess that’s to be expected after so many warm, sunny days. 

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1 hour ago, snowstormcanuck said:

Think my 2" call looks good here. Snow on radar is right on our doorsteps and slooooowly creeping north...but interesting that even under heavy returns YHM still reporting just overcast conditions. Must be a hell of a dry layer to puncture trough first.

I'm with you on this one Canuck although the latest HRR apparently has an area of 4" in the GTA. Nowcasting time!

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3 minutes ago, Ottawa Blizzard said:

I'm with you on this one Canuck although the latest HRR apparently has an area of 4" in the GTA. Nowcasting time!

I agree with Canuck. I'm leaning closer to 1-2" at this point in time. Rates aren't impressive enough for more than that. Stat pad. 

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This is a high impact event despite the over all run of the mill accumulations. Around 4" or a bit above here so far, but it's basically 5:1 ratio. There are quite a few tree branches down, many streets are rutted with slush with people getting stuck, and we were treated to low visibility and massive snowflakes much of the day.  I even lost a small branch off of my fir tree.  As you would expect shoveling this is absolute heart attack esque.  It's too bad that this storm did not come at night, clearly accumulations would have been better had it done so. Actually you can even tell by the fact that White Lake, among the highest elevations in Southeast Michigan, was approaching 7" at 7pm and they had much less precip than down here.

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1 minute ago, michsnowfreak said:

This is a high impact event despite the over all run of the mill accumulations. Around 4" or a bit above here so far, but it's basically 5:1 ratio. There are quite a few tree branches down, many streets are rutted with slush with people getting stuck, and we were treated to lobe is ability and massive snowflakes much of the day.  I even lost a small branch off of my fir tree.  As you would expect shoveling this is absolute heart attack esque.  It's too bad that this storm did not come at night, clearly accumulations would have been better had it done so. Actually you can even tell by the fact that White Lake, among the highest elevations in Southeast Michigan, was approaching 7" at 7pm and they had much less precip than down here.

Yeah, though since the sun has gone down the snow is sticking better here at the airport even at a lower fall rate. Maybe a bit of a catch up here especially with that heavy band near Howell moving SE toward us.

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Yeah, though since the sun has gone down the snow is sticking better here at the airport even at a lower fall rate. Maybe a bit of a catch up here especially with that heavy band near Howell moving SE toward us.
What are you up to there now? Saw it was 3.7" as of 00z.

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29 minutes ago, HillsdaleMIWeather said:

Going to end up in the region of 5 or 6 inches here. Roads are an absolute slushy mess.

With the storm about over...final total is about 7" although would probably be at least 10" if it wasn't actually a little above freezing for much of the duration of the storm. Side roads are a slush fest.    

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Just now, RCNYILWX said:

What are you up to there now? Saw it was 3.7" as of 00z.

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Unfortunately I don't know, we don't do the snow measuring for the airport as we are about 70 feet in the air in a tower. Just judging by what I see on the roof, rate of fall and liquid equivalence, I would say 4.25-4.75 range.

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10 minutes ago, Toronto4 said:

Latest HRRR and 00z NAM (3 km and 12 km) is suggesting hourly snowfall rates of close to an inch for a couple of hours in the GTA, starting around 11pm or midnight. 

Per radar it looks as if the storm is going to graze us? And its incredibly warm. Its 39F at YYZ, lol. 

 

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18 minutes ago, Toronto4 said:

Latest HRRR and 00z NAM (3 km and 12 km) is suggesting hourly snowfall rates of close to an inch for a couple of hours in the GTA, starting around 11pm or midnight. 

I think these models might be underestimating the amount of dry air. Edge of snowfall has been grazing us for 2 hours now with little/no progress.

That being said, the heavy stuff is RIGHT to our S & E so just a little nudge is all it'll take. 

Not really concerned with the temps. Big T/TD spread. Should wet bulb quickly. 

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Need to saturate the air columns. The dry air may hinder just how far north the precip shield gets. Storm isn't going to progress much further north and will begin moving E as the secondary takes over. I'm still going to stick with my 1-2" for now. 

Edit: That dry air is going to keep Hamilton closer to 4". 

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