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Every once in awhile I hear Jan 2000 bantered around so I thought I'd post the 500h analyses for the period where RDU and then DCA got heavy snow. Unfortunately, the site I used did not have the map for the 12 hours prior to the RDU hit but there was already an upper low sitting over South Carolina.  That closed low lifted north in response to the very storm and sharp 500h diving southward.   Look at how much more southerly the winds are out ahead of the trough then we have now.  There is too much strong westerly flow at 500 early in the game to allow such a sharp northward movement.  We don't close off a low until the system is off the coast.  We need a 500h like 2000 to really get hammered.  We don't have one and I don't see how we get one.  Could DCA get an inch, sure but I'd be stunned if the city got much more.  Of course, I've been wrong before.  Anyway, enjoy the 500h maps. 

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1 minute ago, das said:

I've heard multiple numerical weather prediction specialists opine that Jan 2000 will never happen again due to the advancements in their craft.  Every time I hear it, i just shake my head.  I am NOT suggesting that necessarily this storm is the one, merely making an observation.

It probably won’t.  Most busts these days occur due to missed mesoscale features and usually occur over relatively small areas.  So you may have a bust for say 15% of a region in a major storm while 85% of the area the forecast was relatively good.  We saw that a few weeks ago where NE PA and parts of southern NY and NW NJ were surprised due to the jet dynamics producing way more snow than expected   

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3 minutes ago, SnowGoose69 said:

It probably won’t.  Most busts these days occur due to missed mesoscale features and usually occur over relatively small areas.  So you may have a bust for say 15% of a region in a major storm while 85% of the area the forecast was relatively good.  We saw that a few weeks ago where NE PA and parts of southern NY and NW NJ were surprised due to the jet dynamics producing way more snow than expected   

This explains why, at least in North Carolina, the forecast and modeling was so off even within 24 hours of the 2000 storm.

 

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2 minutes ago, H2O said:

So as Wes very nicely showed us, this storm is NOTHING like Jan 200 so lets keep comparing this one to it.

I realize the setup is different.  I was more referring to the possibility of a model jump inside of 24 hours.  Mostly being a weenie.  The models are far better than in 2000 but this is a complex setup and it could easily jog 50+ miles east or west of current guidance in the short range.

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