T. August Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, ers-wxman1 said: You missed the whole point. Not really. I get what you are saying. It’s just drought doesn’t cause drought. Pattern causes drought. I know you know this, it’s just the wording is something that annoys me. For some reason people seem to be stuck on the drought thing. The drought is a symptom not a catalyst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, Warrior Bigfoot said: Not really. I get what you are saying. It’s just drought doesn’t cause drought. Pattern causes drought. I know you know this, it’s just the wording is something that annoys me. For some reason people seem to be stuck on the drought thing. The drought is a symptom not a catalyst. Patterns tend to linger for some length of time; hence, persistence. There is some amount of feedback in any cycle, so to say that drought begats drought is not inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jandurin Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 There's so little weather that you guys are actually arguing semantics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Jandurin said: There's so little weather that you guys are actually arguing semantics. We do boring weather here very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. August Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 minute ago, EastCoast NPZ said: Patterns tend to linger for some length of time; hence, persistence. There is some amount of feedback in any cycle, so to say that drought begats drought is not inaccurate. Agreed, like i said I just get caught up when folks think a current drought will persist because of the fact that there is and has been one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdude64 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, EastCoast NPZ said: We do boring weather here very well. And wind, which has picked up big time in last two hours here, currently W at 14 gusting to 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristowWx Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I have noticed the words teleconnection and stratospheric are used most often when things look bleak for snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jandurin Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Do we need an increase or a decrease of stratospheric teleconnections? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristowWx Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, Jandurin said: Do we need an increase or a decrease of stratospheric teleconnections? That’s the funny part I have no idea. But the next time arguing with my wife I’m gonna pull out those two words because that’s a no-win situation as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jandurin said: Do we need an increase or a decrease of stratospheric teleconnections? Don't even worry about the strat. Generally, the troposphere and stratosphere are disconnected when it comes to sensible wx. What the strat can help with is high latitude blocking. However, we can get high latitude blocking in the troposphere with a hostile strat and vice versa. You will usually only hear strat chatter when things are sucking (like now). But even if the strat goes hog wild and helps develop high latitude blocking, the troposphere still rules the roost with sensible wx. Right now guidance seems to want to re-develop a -AO down the line. We'll know if that's real or a mirage in a week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 The stratosphere is high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George BM Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 8 hours ago, Eskimo Joe said: NAMs love Jackpotville this year. So happy I live north of I-70. I thought that you lived in Gaithersburg. Any-who, it looks like you'd get screwed by the April Fools Day surprise snowstorm/blizzard that I'm weenieing up...... Marginal temperatures, heavy precipitation required to cool the column enough and all of that good stuff . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I love when people ask for a forecast and then argue with it. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Balti Zen Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Nine hour drive home done and back in Baltimore from the holiday trip to the in-laws. A ton of brine laid down on I-81 from the 66 split up to exit 315. I waved hi to Ji and Leesburg04 as I sailed by on 340... Also a ton of brine laid down on 70 from Frederick all the way into 695 and through to my home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx's Thanks Giving Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Who is stormchaserchuck??!?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 57 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: I love when people ask for a forecast and then argue with it. Lol. I thought your forecast sucked cuz you hosed my yard. Come on dude. I thought we were friends. Stop looking at guidance and using your knowledge for a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, Bob Chill said: I thought your forecast sucked cuz you hosed my yard. Come on dude. I thought we were friends. Stop looking at guidance and using your knowledge for a minute. Aren't you in montomery county? Thought I said 1-3 for you. Although I would say the 3 is more likely north of 70. Damascus sometimes does ok in these too from a DC centric pov. If I had to work in the D.C. area that's where I would live for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx's Thanks Giving Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 On 12/16/2017 at 6:48 AM, leesburg 04 said: ! May I speak to someone over the phone about this? eta: pg 45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDstorm Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 34 minutes ago, North Balti Zen said: Nine hour drive home done and back in Baltimore from the holiday trip to the in-laws. A ton of brine laid down on I-81 from the 66 split up to exit 315. I waved hi to Ji and Leesburg04 as I sailed by on 340... Also a ton of brine laid down on 70 from Frederick all the way into 695 and through to my home. You are correct regarding the brine. Just drove home and there was actually 1/4 inch accumulation of brine/chemicals along some parts of 695. Good storm so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, MDstorm said: You are correct regarding the brine. Just drove home and there was actually 1/4 inch accumulation of brine/chemicals along some parts of 695. Good storm so far. A little bit more application and then they can bring out the plows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfewUniversesBelowNormal Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 yeah went to see a lake effect band once it was lots of fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 clippertown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I will never take a car to jiffy lube ever again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George BM Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, H2O said: I will never take a car to jiffy lube ever again I'm all ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George BM Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 16 hours ago, psuhoffman said: The gefs has an ice signal day 10-13 too. Most of the "snow" in that window is actually ice. Could go that way. This would be the setup for it. I'm split on ice. I remember in 94 living in Herndon being so upset that about 10 miles NW of me had solid snow/ice cover all winter. They would get 2/3" of snow/sleet with each event when I was getting just a coating then freezing rain. If it's the kind of ice storm where I end up with 3" of solid crud when it's over yes sign me up. But if it's mostly freezing rain and I end up having to break out my chainsaw on bare ground no thanks. For whatever stupid reason it's all about having my grass covered when the storm ends. If it is it's a win. If I see grass the storm was a fail. That's pretty much my bar for every event. How much ice accretion did you get in Herndon from the 1994 event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 minute ago, George BM said: I'm all ears. It’s too soon. The rage is fresh but just know that they did me wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showmethesnow Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, H2O said: It’s too soon. The rage is fresh but just know that they did me wrong Nothing like getting a bad lube job. When you are getting lubed you want it done right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 15 minutes ago, showmethesnow said: Nothing like getting a bad lube job. When you are getting lubed you want it done right. There was no lube. They did me dry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 15 minutes ago, showmethesnow said: Nothing like getting a bad lube job. When you are getting lubed you want it done right. I see you. I see what you’re doing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfewUniversesBelowNormal Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 The cold is really impressive. Look at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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