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Late autumn, early winter model mayhem


Typhoon Tip

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2 hours ago, Go Kart Mozart said:

Tip, didn't the Cleveland Super Bomb have a similar deepening?   And heck, we were both at ground zero for that (I was in SBN).

I don't know about deepening "rates"  ...but the CSB got to a unworldly low inland continental pressure depth. I think it bottomed at 955 MB as it was passing over Lake Erie in to southern Ontario.

Yes, I was in Kalamazoo Michigan for that one... the snow was waste deep, but I was very young ...  No the airport record 32" of snow and peak wind gust on two occasions in excess of 90 mph ... both were quite unimaginable for deep inside the continent - though Lake Michigan probably did assist some of the snow totals (just assuming so...).

The afternoon before it struck there was an eerie undulating sky with excessively fast tact motion toward the SW, while these gulf ball-sized parachute aggregates spaced literally like one every 50 feet floated down. Very strange ... in memory, I get/got the impression like it was a dam about to burst because of those sky and air features.. getting closer and closer.

It didn't really do much through the evening as I recall (and believe me, as a fledgling nuclear turbo powered weather dweeb, I remember everything in vivid detail!).  I remember calling the local weather line 333-1212 ... the recording said there was a winter storm warning in effect for 4-8" of snow, possibly as much as a foot.  9 pm came the dreaded announcement:  Bedtime...  "Momm!"

No worries... I would ultimately be forced from slumber around 2:30 am by the sounds of rattling at a window that had snow encased to the top and dim yellow glow failing to completely shine through from what turned out to be about the most heavily obscured street lamp I have to this date ever seen. Still waiting to see a pale yellow dot through an abyss nocturnal gray again... from a mere 50 feet away. While it all moved sideways, sintered to the point of thick whirring dust, truly and non-figuratively, choking. 

I was down stairs by then in front of the big living room picture window that set out over the front yard ... Davis St just beyond... Said street lamp was literally at the corner just off the front lawn and it was essentially zero visibility but it was the power of the light that of course made some fractal attempts to get through.  And the white nose over the house from the titanic gusts was also something I have to this day never observed in a concurrent snow event, at least not at the agonizing wail of that - it almost sounded like Earth was in ague.  I've seen heavy snow that would pop your eyes in awe. I've heard winds of that ilk upon other occasions... I've even heard loud gusts in snow storms, sure - but nothing that has  matched that shear arresting insignificance of man ... really.  Beyond the endurance of...as whole families perished in farmsteads in out-state Michigan.  

Yeah, that's never been beat in my mind.  Grade 1 numero uno top dawg absolutely honors... 2nd place is a few paces back at best, too.  But, then there is a tight cluster between 6th and 2nd ...  Granted, just talking my own experience - I'm sure others have their own lists and anecdotal accounts and ranks...   Dec 9-11, 1992 is right up there ... just the shear awe of what that did was, for an undergrad in Meteorology at the time, an absolute trip out back the shed in dynamics...I haven't seen anything "dynamical" quite like that since..  Different story however.  

So the storm raged on for 3 1/2 days ... probably losing like 4% intensity every hour upon average.  I remember day 5 the sun was shining between face smack LE bands. Like, ...please, we're starving for more after THAT.  christ.   Nothing else happened that year...  maybe something minor in March...  ? yeah.  Then we busted spring open

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Wow John, it felt like I was their in MI with you as you described your experience, looking at the 12z and 18z runs I think Friday will give a few inches and then the big dog looks to come for next week.  I think this system will get further and further southward before moving northward along the EC, models agree on negatively tilted trough and dynamic beast from the Arctic Jet.

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37 minutes ago, USCAPEWEATHERAF said:

Wow John, it felt like I was their in MI with you as you described your experience, looking at the 12z and 18z runs I think Friday will give a few inches and then the big dog looks to come for next week.  I think this system will get further and further southward before moving northward along the EC, models agree on negatively tilted trough and dynamic beast from the Arctic Jet.

You don’t think it can get further and further north or east? Is there only one way for this to go?

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