RitualOfTheTrout Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 24 minutes ago, Rd9108 said: 3k NAM looks like 2-4 locked in Yeah looks good for a solid 2 then increasing has you head North. I'll remain cautiously optimistic with this, but wouldn't be shocked if we see more mixing and totals get knocked down. Will have to take my daughter out to play in it tomorrow after work as temperatures won't be oppressively cold but it won't stick around long with 2-3 days in the 45-55 degree range and rain ahead of that cutter. I guess its as the saying goes though, better to have snowed and melted than to have never snowed at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Funny how the models teased us and now basically all show the same solution which is a heavy snow axis going through NE Ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 I would guess that most counties will get a WWA in the 4:00 update and I'm thinking totals go to 2-3 or 2-4. It looks as if we may have a good 4 or 5 hours of moderate snow tomorrow late morning early afternoon that will taper off quickly around Sundown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Winter Weather Advisory URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Pittsburgh PA 208 PM EST Sun Jan 7 2018 MDZ001-OHZ039>041-048>050-057>059-068-069-PAZ020-021-029-031- 073>076-WVZ001>004-012-021-509>514-080315- /O.NEW.KPBZ.WW.Y.0002.180108T1000Z-180109T0000Z/ Garrett-Tuscarawas-Carroll-Columbiana-Coshocton-Harrison- Jefferson-Muskingum-Guernsey-Belmont-Noble-Monroe-Beaver- Allegheny-Washington-Greene-Westmoreland-Westmoreland Ridges- Fayette-Fayette Ridges-Hancock-Brooke-Ohio-Marshall-Wetzel-Marion- Monongalia-Ridges of Eastern Monongalia and Northwestern Preston- Preston-Eastern Preston-Western Tucker-Eastern Tucker- Including the cities of Mountain Lake Park, Oakland MD, Grantsville, New Philadelphia, Dover, Carrollton, Malvern, East Liverpool, Salem, Columbiana, Coshocton, Cadiz, Steubenville, Zanesville, Cambridge, Martins Ferry, St. Clairsville, Caldwell, Woodsfield, Aliquippa, Beaver Falls, Ambridge, Monaca, Pittsburgh Metro Area, Washington, Canonsburg, Waynesburg, Murrysville, Greensburg, New Kensington, Ligonier, Donegal, Uniontown, Champion, Ohiopyle, Weirton, Follansbee, Wellsburg, Wheeling, Moundsville, New Martinsville, Fairmont, Morgantown, Coopers Rock, Kingwood, Bruceton Mills, Terra Alta, Rowlesburg, Hazelton, Parsons, Hendricks, Saint George, Davis, Thomas, and Canaan Valley 208 PM EST Sun Jan 7 2018 ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 5 AM TO 7 PM EST MONDAY... * WHAT...Snow and possible freezing rain. Plan on slippery road conditions. Total snow accumulations of 1 to 3 inches are expected. A trace of ice possible. * WHERE...Portions of southwest and western Pennsylvania, east central Ohio, western Maryland and northern and northern panhandle of West Virginia. * WHEN...From 5 AM to 7 PM EST Monday. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Be prepared for reduced visibilities at times and icy conditions on untreated roads, even if temperatures climb above freezing. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A Winter Weather Advisory for snow means periods of snow will cause primarily travel difficulties. Be prepared for snow covered roads and limited visibilities, and use caution while driving. The latest road conditions for the state you are calling from can be obtained by calling 5 1 1. $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 12z Euro consistent with everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Next weekend storm is an interesting battle between the models. GFS is furthest east, but UKie and Canadian are in decent spots for now to. Euro is pretty far west with the LP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, MikeB_01 said: Next weekend storm is an interesting battle between the models. GFS is furthest east, but UKie and Canadian are in decent spots for now to. Euro is pretty far west with the LP. Looks like a difficult forecast. Just slight differences at H5 with location, strength, and timing, are making big changes at the surface. Should be fun to track though, especially if we’re still in the game come Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, MikeB_01 said: 12z Euro consistent with everything else. Love that two inch hole right over Allegheny County. Yeah, 1-3 sounds about right with a little slop mixing in, especially where I'm at. I haven't had much confidence in this one personally. Depends on where you're at. We'll see what happens and then on to the next one. The NWS just has rain for the next one early on and then a chance of rain and snow. Temps seem to be an issue with that one, at least as of now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Short range models for tonight: Nam 2.5 3K 2.0 HRRR 2.7 - not complete RAP 2.5 SREFS 2.05 RGEM 4.6 I'll take this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 The GFS for next weekend is just locked in on track. Run after run it's showing the same thing. Funny how once a cutter shows up it rarely trends to favor us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Looks like a great storm for Detroit . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Rd9108 said: The GFS for next weekend is just locked in on track. Run after run it's showing the same thing. Funny how once a cutter shows up it rarely trends to favor us. Seems right now to be the case. However, a slightly stronger Thursday storm would help push the trough further east. No matter how you slice it, it’s gonna be a fine line to walk, without a strong HP to the north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwc Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just walked the dogs. Pretty sure it was raining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranberryWX Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 6 hours ago, MikeB_01 said: Looks like a great storm for Detroit . Maybe not, run this morning looks cold enough for snow early morning hours of Saturday up through noon then it gets cold for a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranberryWX Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, cwc said: Just walked the dogs. Pretty sure it was raining. Yeah, but should see a cooling affect soon. My dew point is 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 7 hours ago, Rd9108 said: The GFS for next weekend is just locked in on track. Run after run it's showing the same thing. Funny how once a cutter shows up it rarely trends to favor us. 7 hours ago, MikeB_01 said: Looks like a great storm for Detroit I wouldn't get to distressed over the weekend thing right now. GFS and CMC are within 200-300 miles of being a good storm for this area, and at day 6+ leads that's a reasonable level of error especially since its highly dependent on what happens with the storm Thursday. Just quickly looking through the GEFS / GEPS / EPS. they all look to take the low further SE than their OP counterparts. Honestly missing to the East is just as much on the table in my mind as to far West. With that said, we should get a couple inches of snow today so don't forget to look out the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, TeaysValleyWV said: Yeah, but should see a cooling affect soon. My dew point is 18. Yep, was just going to say this, once the heavier precip moves in should have no problem getting it to flip to snow as the column will cool once wet-bulbing starts to kick in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, RitualOfTheTrout said: I wouldn't get to distressed over the weekend thing right now. GFS and CMC are within 200-300 miles of being a good storm for this area, and at day 6+ leads that's a reasonable level of error especially since its highly dependent on what happens with the storm Thursday. Just quickly looking through the GEFS / GEPS / EPS. they all look to take the low further SE than their OP counterparts. Honestly missing to the East is just as much on the table in my mind as to far West. With that said, we should get a couple inches of snow today so don't forget to look out the window. EPS is actually in a decent spot too. I haven't been outside this morning. KPIT is at 34 but i heard the salt trucks going around my neighborhood. Like most have indicated, the evaporative cooling will occur soon i would imagine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, MikeB_01 said: EPS is actually in a decent spot too. I haven't been outside this morning. KPIT is at 34 but i heard the salt trucks going around my neighborhood. Like most have indicated, the evaporative cooling will occur soon i would imagine 00Z EPS. No super strong high above us on this image, but also not bad. Good to see some blocking there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 HRRR for whats left today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPOracle Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Heard a clap of thunder not long ago way up in the clouds, had a mix of sleet, freezing rain, and snow, and actually a few small hail stones (pea sized) mixed in. Classic overrunning event today. As i am going ice fishing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, JPOracle said: Heard a clap of thunder not long ago way up in the clouds, had a mix of sleet, freezing rain, and snow, and actually a few small hail stones (pea sized) mixed in. Classic overrunning event today. As i am going ice fishing I’m just going to guess there was no hail mixed in today. I’m still waiting on your blizzard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Even though it's snowing it still feels warm relative to how it's been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Pretty awesome outside right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 If you aren’t watching outside, you are missing out. Nice band coming thru central AGC. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwc Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 is it laying anywhere? I'm downtown and its not even sticking to cars, let alone the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, cwc said: is it laying anywhere? I'm downtown and its not even sticking to cars, let alone the road North hills it's a nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 If you aren’t watching outside, you are missing out. Nice band coming thru central AGC. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 is it laying anywhere? I'm downtown and its not even sticking to cars, let alone the roadJust around the neighborhood in Mt Lebanon is a a little rough too. Snowing hard with big flakes. Roads covered. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranberryWX Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, cwc said: is it laying anywhere? I'm downtown and its not even sticking to cars, let alone the road Yes, roads are covered here. The twp. plow just came by plowing. Over an inch of wet snow...heated rain gauge has measured 0.16" of liquid so far. Steady snow for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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