MikeB_01 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Not feeling too big on anything making its way off the lake today. HiRes modeling shows something around 5-6pm, but not much. On a different note, I have been amazed at the staying power that this system has had so far. Radar finally starting to wind down, but it has lasted far longer than I would have thought it would based on the radar at 7 am this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Anyone going to be able to get a good QPF value from this system? I'll be curious as to the actual snow to liquid ratios that we got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChalkHillSnowNut Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I measured a good 5.3” here on the mountain and it seems to be coming down like crazy still although the radar does look like it’s aboit to end unless that energy to the south fills in-route 40 at the summit was a nightmare about an hour ago with semis stuck and cars stuck all the way up....crazy I didn’t see anything near 5-6” here but it’s so cold salt won’t work that well either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 43 minutes ago, MikeB_01 said: Not feeling too big on anything making its way off the lake today. HiRes modeling shows something around 5-6pm, but not much. On a different note, I have been amazed at the staying power that this system has had so far. Radar finally starting to wind down, but it has lasted far longer than I would have thought it would based on the radar at 7 am this morning. Yeah, probably nothing too heavy, but hires seems to not pick up on the light stuff a lot of the time, at least on sim radar. Already filling in to the north rather nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 After today's event it looks like a very boring pattern. There's some energy floating around but only thing of significance is the storm on the 4th but it looks like it has its eyes set on New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Picked up a half inch since this morning bringing totals to 3. Just had a nice burst go through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Special Weather StatementNational Weather Service Pittsburgh PA416 PM EST SAT DEC 30 2017OHZ039>041-049-050-059-PAZ014-020>022-029-073-WVZ001>003-302245-Jefferson-Belmont-Tuscarawas-Harrison-Columbiana-Carroll-Armstrong-Westmoreland-Washington-Allegheny-Butler-Beaver-Brooke-Ohio-Hancock-416 PM EST SAT DEC 30 2017...AN INTENSE SNOW SQUALL WILL AFFECT CARROLL...TUSCARAWAS...HARRISON...JEFFERSON...COLUMBIANA...NORTHEASTERN BELMONT...BEAVER...SOUTHWESTERN BUTLER...ALLEGHENY...SOUTHWESTERN ARMSTRONG...NORTHWESTERN WASHINGTON...NORTHWESTERN WESTMORELAND...NORTHWESTERNOHIO...BROOKE AND HANCOCK COUNTIES...At 416 PM EST, an intense snow squall was located along a lineextending from near Leetonia to near Berlin. Movement was southeastat 40 mph.Locations impacted include...Pittsburgh... Penn Hills...Mount Lebanon... Ross Township...McCandless Township... Cranberry...Moon Township... Weirton...Steubenville... New Philadelphia...Franklin Park... Dover...This includes the following highways... Interstate 70 in Ohio between mile markers 210 and 219. Pennsylvania Turnpike between mile markers 13 and 54. Interstate 77 in Ohio between mile markers 68 and 94. Interstate 79 in Pennsylvania between mile markers 23 and 56. Parkway North between mile markers 1 and 13.Use caution if you must travel through this squall. Rapid changes invisibility and road conditions are likely to lead to accidents.Consider delaying travel until the squall passes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Special Weather Statement Special Weather Statement National Weather Service Pittsburgh PA 539 PM EST SAT DEC 30 2017 OHZ050-PAZ014-020>023-029-073-074-WVZ001-002-310015- Jefferson-Armstrong-Butler-Westmoreland Ridges-Westmoreland-Beaver-Washington-Allegheny-Indiana-Brooke- Hancock- 539 PM EST SAT DEC 30 2017 ...AN INTENSE SNOW SQUALL WILL AFFECT NORTHERN JEFFERSON...NORTHERN WASHINGTON...SOUTHERN BEAVER...SOUTHWESTERN INDIANA...SOUTHWESTERN BUTLER...ALLEGHENY...CENTRAL WESTMORELAND...SOUTHWESTERN ARMSTRONG... NORTHEASTERN BROOKE AND HANCOCK COUNTIES... At 538 PM EST, an intense snow squall was located along a line extending from Mars to 10 miles southeast of Carrollton. Movement was southeast at 40 mph. Rapid accumulation of one half to one inch of snow is likely in this squall. Locations impacted include... Pittsburgh... Penn Hills... Mount Lebanon... Bethel Park... Ross Township... McCandless Township... Monroeville... Cranberry... Moon Township... McMurray... Greensburg... Weirton... This includes the following highways... Interstate 70 in Pennsylvania between mile markers 17 and 22. Pennsylvania Turnpike between mile markers 27 and 69. Interstate 79 in Pennsylvania between mile markers 22 and 51. Parkway North between mile markers 1 and 13. Use caution if you must travel through this squall. Rapid changes in visibility and road conditions are likely to lead to accidents. Consider delaying travel until the squall passes. LAT...LON 4043 7895 4016 8020 4046 8094 4047 8092 4054 8092 4073 7996 4046 7893 TIME...MOT...LOC 2238Z 294DEG 24KT 4069 7998 4051 8091 $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Special Weather Statement Special Weather Statement National Weather Service Pittsburgh PA 724 PM EST SAT DEC 30 2017 PAZ020-021-073>076-310200- Fayette Ridges-Westmoreland Ridges-Westmoreland-Beaver-Allegheny-Fayette- 724 PM EST SAT DEC 30 2017 ...AN INTENSE SNOW SQUALL WILL AFFECT CENTRAL BEAVER...CENTRAL ALLEGHENY...SOUTHWESTERN WESTMORELAND AND NORTH CENTRAL FAYETTE COUNTIES... At 722 PM EST, an intense snow squall was located along a line extending from Industry to Pleasant Hills through most of the West Hills and South Hills areas. Movement was southeast at 20 mph. Rapid accumulation of one half to one inch of snow is likely. Roads will quickly become snow covered, and the visibility will be reduced to below one quarter of a mile. Locations impacted include... Pittsburgh... Mount Lebanon... Bethel Park... Ross Township... Monroeville... Moon Township... McKeesport... Franklin Park... Aliquippa... Connellsville... Monaca... Shaler Township... This includes the following highways... Interstate 70 in Pennsylvania between mile markers 47 and 57. Pennsylvania Turnpike between mile markers 66 and 89. Interstate 79 in Pennsylvania between mile markers 28 and 42. Parkway North between mile markers 1 and 12. LAT...LON 4081 8049 4015 7937 3998 7954 4068 8051 TIME...MOT...LOC 0022Z 308DEG 19KT 4067 8043 4033 7993 $$ Fries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 00z GFS shows temperatures not going above freezing until around the 8th when a cutter arrives and brings the warm air with it. Still a ways out and this thing could end up suppressed by the time it actually hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 18 hours ago, Rd9108 said: After today's event it looks like a very boring pattern. There's some energy floating around but only thing of significance is the storm on the 4th but it looks like it has its eyes set on New England. Yeah it's a little disappointing this cold period didn't have a little more activity, its not over yet so something could still pop up at short ranges. I'm going to take the optimistic view for a moment though because yesterday was about a perfect winter day for me. Wake up to a fresh couple inches of snow, with light snow and a few heavier bursts mixed in for just about the whole day, and the icing on the cake was it stayed cold all day. Nothing worse than hearing the drip drip of the snow melt before you can even finishing shoveling. If I had to nitpick it would be only that the storm wasn't a better producer. I still want to see a big storm hit us that drops like 8-12 or more followed by a pattern we have now with a week of bitter cold and periodic coating to an inch storms and have it happen during late December or early January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 9 hours ago, Rd9108 said: 00z GFS shows temperatures not going above freezing until around the 8th when a cutter arrives and brings the warm air with it. Still a ways out and this thing could end up suppressed by the time it actually hits. I've been looking into the longer ranges, a definite relaxation is on the table in about 7 days or so. Given we will be entering peak climo for cold though, even if we hover close to average we should see an increase in storm chances. We will run the risk of cutters and slop storms, but I think I'll take my chances. After another week of this bitter cold I think even I will be ready for some moderation, just so long as it doesn't evolve into a 2-3 week torch and complete shutout of snow. Given the deep cold we will have had proceeding it, that cutter around the 8th, if it stays a cutter, will likely still feature some fairly interesting weather. Snow to sleet to zr, then plain rain, but surface temps will be so cold plain rain just freezes. Plenty of time for that to change, but I would be wary of anyone just assuming persistence in that it will trend SE, if the pattern is changing all bets are off. In the mean time hopefully we can manage another couple smaller snow chances this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Snow is coming down pretty good here, may aproach half an inch, although it looks to be moving through quick. NWS makes no mention of it whatsoever even though it covers most of the area. Being New Years Eve, it's forgivable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, olafminesaw said: Snow is coming down pretty good here, may aproach half an inch, although it looks to be moving through quick. NWS makes no mention of it whatsoever even though it covers most of the area. Being New Years Eve, it's forgivable. They make mention in the discussion, but seems like its affecting a larger portion of the area than anticipated. I've had a nice light snow for about 45 minutes, fresh coating and roads are getting covered again. Snow on snow, single digit temps, deep winter .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... Forecast on track...no changes needed this morning. Previous discussion below.. A shortwave will dive south of the region this afternoon. This could bring a short period of light snow showers to the far south and ridges later today. The highest Pops will be over the ridges and this would be the locations that would most likely see any minor accumulations. Models are also hinting at another lake band developing this afternoon. This looks to be a dual fetch band, with moisture from Lake Huron getting involved. Still a good bit of atmospheric wind shear, so if band forms, it would likely have difficulty holding together as it dives southeastward. Steering winds at 850mb are lined up well to have a snow band extend from Lake Erie southeastward into the ridges. Have used a blend of model guidance for the snow band PoPs, but these will likely need to be modified, if and when the band forms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Pittsburgh PA 335 PM EST Sun Dec 31 2017 OHZ049-050-057>059-068-069-PAZ020-021-029-031-073-075-WVZ001>004- 010445- /O.EXB.KPBZ.WC.Y.0007.180101T0500Z-180101T1700Z/ Harrison-Jefferson-Muskingum-Guernsey-Belmont-Noble-Monroe-Beaver- Allegheny-Washington-Greene-Westmoreland-Fayette-Hancock-Brooke- Ohio-Marshall- Including the cities of Cadiz, Steubenville, Zanesville, Cambridge, Martins Ferry, St. Clairsville, Caldwell, Woodsfield, Aliquippa, Beaver Falls, Ambridge, Monaca, Pittsburgh Metro Area, Washington, Canonsburg, Waynesburg, Murrysville, Greensburg, New Kensington, Uniontown, Weirton, Follansbee, Wellsburg, Wheeling, and Moundsville 335 PM EST Sun Dec 31 2017 ...WIND CHILL ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO NOON EST MONDAY... * WHAT...Very cold wind chills expected. The cold wind chills will cause frostbite in as little as 30 minutes to exposed skin. Expect wind chills to range from 10 below zero to 15 below zero. * WHERE...Portions of southwest and western Pennsylvania, east central Ohio and northern and northern panhandle of West Virginia. * WHEN...From midnight tonight to noon EST Monday. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A Wind Chill Advisory means that cold air and the wind will combine to create low wind chills. Frost bite and hypothermia can occur if precautions are not taken. Make sure you wear a hat and gloves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Thought it was cool enough to share that the ground temp is so cold int he upper mid west that GOES-East is picking it up as cloud tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I can see why it's so cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 41 minutes ago, olafminesaw said: I can see why it's so cold Idk what I'm looking at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, Rd9108 said: Idk what I'm looking at? It traces the current airmass back to it's original source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Currently 3° at KPIT. Long night to go with clear skies and snow on the ground. Could see -5° tonight without windchill. The record is -4° in 1880. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Coldest holiday week I can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Dec 2000 was very similar. Unfortunately I don’t remember anything noteworthy about that month. Guess it was all about bars, clubs, and bi****s back then. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 Happy new year and here's hoping for our 12+ snowstorm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranberryWX Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 -6F at 6:30 this morning on my station with 2.0" of snow on the ground. Happy New Year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranberryWX Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 9 hours ago, CoraopolisWx said: Coldest holiday week I can remember. LONGEST PERIODS WITH TEMPERATURES 32 DEGREES OR LOWER (consecutive days) 33 Days Dec 26, 1976 through Jan 27, 1977 This was a cold Holiday period that I remember. This current stretch reminds me of that time though we had a lot more wind and extremely low windchills back then. December 25, 1983 was -12F officially, but a lot colder in the countryside...and I recall a lot of snow on the ground too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 hours ago, TeaysValleyWV said: LONGEST PERIODS WITH TEMPERATURES 32 DEGREES OR LOWER (consecutive days) 33 Days Dec 26, 1976 through Jan 27, 1977 This was a cold Holiday period that I remember. This current stretch reminds me of that time though we had a lot more wind and extremely low windchills back then. December 25, 1983 was -12F officially, but a lot colder in the countryside...and I recall a lot of snow on the ground too. That’s funny you mention that, because I remember seeing that on the NWS site. Not sure that record will ever be broken, along with the January mean record. It’s crazy how far second place is after Jan 77. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 The Euro thinks it will be a low of -17 and a high of 40 a day later (it does seem to overdo cold by 10 degrees or so in the day 5-10 range) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I really think we had a shot last night at a record.. It started to cloud up at the wrong time. The moment the clouds rolled in, the temp went from -2 to 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Even though this storm has about a 1% percent chance of affecting us in anyway I'm still interested in tracking it. Right now the mesoscale models are super amped and far west showing 2ft for areas and then you have the globals with a moderate storm. This storm could be absolutely insane for the coast with some of the solutions it's spitting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Looks like we have one of those weeks coming up that I really hate. Dry and frigid. Crank up the heating bill and no snow to at least reward us for dealing with the cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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